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drake 26th February 2002 23:59

Mr Jones...
 
Ok is it just me or did Mr Jones just go a little power crazy. I saw one post where he/she said to close a topic to Rocker and then he/she wanted to "toast" a user and closed the topic.

Now normally this wouldn't be that bad but in the SAME DAY!

I would like to see if this post is closed and if I recieved a warning or something in the email. Sorry but I am against forceful use of moderatoring powers.

Ice 27th February 2002 00:23

everyone has off days. and sometimes, there is a backstory to this. you know that.

CraigF 27th February 2002 00:35

since you didnt provide any links/details or background on this, i cant comment.

QHOBBES 27th February 2002 02:02

I was down at the New Amsterdam staring at this yellow-haired girl
Mr. Jones strikes up a conversation with this black-haired flamingo dancer
She dances while his father plays guitar
She’s suddenly beautiful
We all want something beautiful
I wish I was beautiful

So come dance this silence down through the morning
Cut up, Maria! Show me some of them Spanish dances
Pass me a bottle, Mr. Jones
Believe in me
Help me believe in anything
I want to be someone who believes

Mr. Jones and me tell each other fairy tales
Stare at the beautiful women
“She’s looking at you. Ah, no, no, she’s looking at me.”
Smiling at the bright lights
Coming through in stereo
When everybody loves you, you can never be lonely

I will paint my picture
Paint myself in blue and red and black and gray
All of the beautiful colors are very very meaningful
Gray is my favorite color
I felt so symbolic yesterday
If I knew Picasso
I would buy myself a gray guitar and play

Mr. Jones and me look into the future
Stare at the beautiful women
“She’s looking at you.
Uh, I don’t think so. She’s looking at me.”
Standing in the spotlight
I bought myself a gray guitar
When everybody loves me, I will never be lonely

I want to be a lion
Everybody wants to pass as cats
We all want to be big big stars, but we got different reasons for that
Believe in me because I don’t believe in anything and I want to be someone to believe

Mr. Jones and me stumbling through the barrio
Yeah we stare at the beautiful women
“She’s perfect for you, Man, there’s got to be somebody for me.”
I want to be Bob Dylan
Mr. Jones wishes he was someone just a little more funky
When everybody loves you, son, that’s just about as funky as you can be

Mr. Jones and me staring at the video
When I look at the television, I want to see me staring right back at me
We all want to be big stars, but we don’t know why and we don’t know how
But when everybody loves me, I’m going to be just about as happy as can be
Mr. Jones and me, we’re gonna be big stars...

drake 27th February 2002 02:36

Ya I guess I see your point Ice. I have been like that in TFC servers where I have admin access.

Mr Jones 27th February 2002 07:56

Your point being?

Two pointless thread that had nothing at all to do with WA3 and everything to do with utter crap got wacked?

Please, open your eyes, read around this forum, the whole frikiking place is littered with locked pointless threads, a few examples to follow....
http://forums.winamp.com/showthread....threadid=75815
http://forums.winamp.com/showthread....threadid=75617
http://forums.winamp.com/showthread....threadid=75600
http://forums.winamp.com/showthread....threadid=74868
http://forums.winamp.com/showthread....threadid=74869
http://forums.winamp.com/showthread....threadid=74800
http://forums.winamp.com/showthread....threadid=74242
http://forums.winamp.com/showthread....threadid=75815
http://forums.winamp.com/showthread....threadid=75828
http://forums.winamp.com/showthread....threadid=75849
http://forums.winamp.com/showthread....threadid=76270
http://forums.winamp.com/showthread....threadid=76246
http://forums.winamp.com/showthread....threadid=76547
http://forums.winamp.com/showthread....threadid=76838
http://forums.winamp.com/showthread....threadid=76995
http://forums.winamp.com/showthread....threadid=77143
http://forums.winamp.com/showthread....threadid=77408

And those are the only ones I could be bothered to open, sorry if I offended you in some way by locking that first thread and suggesting that the second one also be locked, but hey I don't see any complaints about the rest of the crap around here getting locked.

if you wish to discuss this further, please feel free to use the PM button.

blaugh 27th February 2002 15:47

Re: Mr Jones...
 
Quote:

Originally posted by drake
Sorry but I am against forceful use of moderatoring powers.
i think the word you're lookin for is "moderating";)

drake 27th February 2002 19:56

Thanks for fixing my typo blaugh.

Well as far as them not having relevance I don't believe that is true. He made a joke about Winamp3. Like the toast joke... So are we not allowed to have humor in these forums Jones?

I do agree there are a lot of useless and pointless posts but I don't believe that that was one of them. I would really appreciate it if you suck it up like a man and instead of bitching about this further just take it as constructive criticism of the way you moderate and that you be a little more careful in the future.

Gonzotek 27th February 2002 21:34

Quote:

Originally posted by drake
Thanks for fixing my typo blaugh.

Well as far as them not having relevance I don't believe that is true. He made a joke about Winamp3. Like the toast joke... So are we not allowed to have humor in these forums Jones?

This forum is for discussion about Winamp3. These are the most "moderated" of the forums, and, honestly, with good reason. Look at how bad the Shoutcast forums were for long, long time. Those two threads were devoid of value. It's one thing to add a piece of humor to an ongoing discussion, but both of those posts did nothing at all for Winamp. Maybe they should have been moved to GD, but I'm not going to argue with that decision. Let the thread starters argue for their threads.

Quote:

I do agree there are a lot of useless and pointless posts but I don't believe that that was one of them. I would really appreciate it if you suck it up like a man and instead of bitching about this further just take it as constructive criticism of the way you moderate and that you be a little more careful in the future.
Well, he didn't bitch about it. You did. In full public view. I find that comment rather nasty. And he offered you the opportunity to further discuss it with him in PM. Which is where it should have started.

I'd like to suggest that this thread be locked or at least moved, as it also has no relevence to Winamp3. Let it live in General Discussion, if it must.

-=Gonzotek=-

drake 27th February 2002 21:56

Well I never said he did bitch about it. I said I would appreciate it if he didn't. By that I meant in the future. Which so far he hasn't and I thank him for that. Instead you did it for him Gonzo.

CraigF 27th February 2002 22:30

i dont think you understand the reprocussions.

there has since been conversation backstage about heavy handed tactics in use on these forums.

I have been quoted before as saying that these forums are indeed the most "moderated". Look at it as unofficial rules.

Everybody sees no problem with locking n00b threads that are completely offtopic, and frankly, non-n00bs should know better.

Its not a personal attack against people, its just the rules laid out in these forums (wa3).

We need to keep things on-topic here, otherwise we just get inundated very quickly.

And, as has been pointed out. There is GD for ANY topic you feel you need to speak about.

Ice 27th February 2002 23:31

then if its offtopic, not pertaining to winamp 3, move it. yes, there is a move feature that redirects to the new copy.

the forums are meant to be a fun place. you'll never get that if you want to put a vice grip on everything. let things slide.

enzi 7th March 2002 09:59

Just maybe.
 
P'raps there wouldn't be so many pointless threads if people weren't "ranked" by the number of posts that they have made.

But then again, I'm not complaining, doesn't bother me...

Naamloos 7th March 2002 13:59

Re: Just maybe.
 
Quote:

Originally posted by enzi
P'raps there wouldn't be so many pointless threads if people weren't "ranked" by the number of posts that they have made.

But then again, I'm not complaining, doesn't bother me...

For most n00bs (and postpumpers) postcount does matters, but for non-noobs they don't. I did care a bit about my postcount until I reached 100 or so. But then again, I don't think an user with 4593 (just a random number) is better than an user with 1 post.

drake 7th March 2002 22:09

A better system (definitely not perfect) than checking posts, is checking the registration date. This tells you more of who is and isn't a post pumper.

This will help but you have to consider the fact time here and in this forum doesn't judge how smart you are or how much you know about winamp. A lot of people will make their first post even though they have used Winamp since the 1.x

So what have we learned? Just read the posts the person and then decide who is the newb and who is the genious :)

Naamloos 8th March 2002 06:00

Maybe if he have made a bug report somelong time ago, and then decided to come back ;)

kingo'mountain 8th March 2002 06:46

Re: Re: Just maybe.
 
Quote:

Originally posted by Naamloos


For most n00bs (and postpumpers) postcount does matters, but for non-noobs they don't. I did care a bit about my postcount until I reached 100 or so. But then again, I don't think an user with 4593 (just a random number) is better than an user with 1 post.

well said!!!!!!!!
:up: :up: :up:

Naamloos 8th March 2002 11:38

Re: Re: Re: Just maybe.
 
Quote:

Originally posted by kingo'mountain


well said!!!!!!!!
:up: :up: :up:

Postpumper :D

j/k, thanks for the comment :D

Rocker 8th March 2002 12:26

Quote:

Originally posted by Naamloos
Maybe if he have made a bug report somelong time ago, and then decided to come back ;)
what if its a bug thats reported multiple times....and all reports are on the same page?

some newbies are dumb....you can't not say thats the truth

some non newbies are dumb...can't say thats the truth

their is only minor descrimination in these forums against newbies..perticularly the dumb ones(if your not stupid...then your safe).

if a mod/forum king posted BETA 3 BUILD 466 right now....the thread would be closed as soon as I saw it.

everyone was a noob once...this is how it should be...telling the newbies whats wrong or right is the job for senior members.

this usually churns out better members in the long run...who know what their talking about.

Naamloos 8th March 2002 19:18

I've once been told on my first skin : You suck and other comments like : Woah a baby can do that in 5 min...

I nearly left the forums again... :(

but I didnt :p


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