Amazing!- Gadhafi explains it all!
 

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Proof that economic sanctions do have a way of changing minds- Moammar Gadhafi, formerly an islamist firebrand who supported plane hijacking, gunrunning, and other muslim terrorist hijinks, has came out with a plan not only for muslims around the world, but a solution to the mideast "peace process".

On Muslims:
"Muslims should learn from Jews. Jews in America do not ask for a separate state. That's why they are stronger. They have influence in a very influential superpower. The Jewish model in America is a good model for Muslims all over the world."

On the "Peace Process":
Rather than trying to carve out a Palestinian state alongside Israel, Mr. Gadhafi showed a slide depicting his idea of a Jewish-Arab "Federal Republic of the Holy Land," comprising five regions and Jerusalem as a "city state."
When questioners asked if it was practical, Mr. Gadhafi said that Israel would first have to admit all of the Palestinian refugees, and then elections would be held to decide who would lead the new federated state.
If Israel refused, the world should exert economic and political pressure. After all, Libya has been subjected to sanctions for years to make it change behavior.

Is it me folks or is he making a complete turn around? If this continues he might just have to be taken off as one Xerxes' "Happy Dictators"

Which is a good thing, folks.

Haven't heard much from him lately, have we? Last I'd heard about him, he was pushing to get Libya to use the Islamic calendar--which has year 1 as the year of Mohammed's death. That, and he was finally giving up the people wanted for the Pan Am 103 bombing.
As for his plan, I don't think it would ever work. The Israelis would vote for the Israeli candidates, the Palestinians would vote for the Palestinian candidates, there would be stalemate, and then it would all fall apart.

I'm gonna have to give up smilies? :eek: NO!

"If consequences dictate our course of action i should play God and just shoot you myself."

werd.

You got a link to this speech Xman?

Is Gadhafi really that powerful a figure in the Muslim world, as he is cut off a lot from the middle east itself, and they do not tend to take much note of other Muslim leaders.

My fault...

http://www.washtimes.com/world/20020625-93364328.htm


Gadhafi may not seem like nothing now, but in the 80's he was right up there with the Ayatollah Khameni as one of the two extra evil islamists. "Ronald Reaganus Maxiumus" went so far as to bomb Libya back in the 80's for Gadhafi's state funding of terrorism. It looks like some of the schrapnel may have entered his head and changed his thinking :)

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(I just love seeing the lesser known dictator smileys getting to see the light of day :)

Perhaps it is a sign for the good, but I am still sceptical about whether he holds any power any more over the muslim world. Still, lets hope that more and more people do begin to share his ideas.

Behind the Ayatollah, Gadhafi was the most dreaded terrorist backer of the 80's:weird:

Maybe he has a craving for a MickeyD's in Libya?
Not only do sanctions jack with a country if enforced, America has a habit of rewarding countries who come around to civilized ethics monetarily:igor:

America has a history of supporting dictatorships that preserve stability in an area as long as they do exactly as the US says. The US is also the only state on the UN list of countries that support terrorism.

In America dictators have consistantly been considered a good thing, killing, maining, torture is all acceptable under such regimes as long as stability is preserved and thy do EXACTLY as the US want. Failure to do so means a turning around in US policy and a harsh bombing campaign.

I also think countries such as Cuba and Lybia have better standards of life than most capitalist states. So they may not have the best products etc but I bet they are a lot happier than most people in western countries.


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Yeah. That's why Cuban refugees make their way to the US on rafts and tires.

Only to get parts for their '55 Chevies ;)

Seriously though, I agree with Phil... Capitalism does not make for a particularly happy population.

You've got to be fucking kidding. Have you ever spoken to someone who lived in one of the former communist states? Yeah. I hear it was loads of fun.

Not saying, necessarily, that communist states are better... but capitalists are not the happiest.

Take the Zen Buddhists for example. They are possibly as far from capitalists as you can get, and yet they are happy!

They also aren't a country.

Richard Gere should lead us to a new society: he's a Zen Buddhist in a capitalist country - he must be the happiest person there is!

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I've heard that before. I just dismiss it as crap. If it's not true, then I don't care. If it is true, the UN is rather ignorant to the true state of the world.

It all comes down to greed in the end. :( :hang: :down:


(Yes, I do read a lot of Tom Clancy novels. The BIG ones.)

They are fun to read, aren't they? Like Rainbow Six. :)

That seems like a turnaround for Mr. Gadhafi. I hope that the states fo Israel and Palestine will resolve their conflicts. This bloodshed just makes me feel like they deserve to kill each otehr off. :( I want peace damnit! ;)

I've always found it funny. During the Cold War, it was the policy of the US that any person from a communist country that could make it onto American soil could stay there--no visas or asylum requests needed. There were 2 exceptions:
China--because we couldn't stand the thought of a billion people all trying to come here simultaneously; and
Cuba--because if we let them all come over they would!

I don't think there are THAT many people in Cuba who are happy; they can't even import enough toilet paper or deoderant to support themselves. It's barbarian- to think that just a few words by Saddam Hussein, Fidel Castro, Kim Jong etc etc. would allow staples of modern civilized existence to be imported into these lands impovershed by communism/totalitarianism.

The current countries that claim to operate to communist ideals are far from them, and are in fact totalitarian states that run themselves using opression and fear.

Because only a totalitarian system could force communism on the people. Anything else and the people would switch back to capitalism when they grew tired of being poor.

But there is no country in the world at present that operates a truly communist system of government, and there never will be.

What a shame, huh?:D

Time to rename it to "Constapationism";)

LOL! If only Lenin had gotten some ex-lax the world would be a bterr place...

I am sure that there is a running joke somewhere, but i am too tired to figure it out.

If you're too tired to figure it out, then you sir, are a
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