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Aero Zeppelin 10th July 2002 20:41

Kings Of Heavy Metal
 
Who are the kings of heavy metal? I think maybe Van Halen since they have survived since the late 70s and they have a good attitude about life. But Metallica is very good and they have a more complex song structure than Van Halen. However, they are one of those bands that has all songs that aren't really happy; more about death and darkness and bad things.

Xerxes 10th July 2002 21:44

US Steel has been the king of heavy metal for a very long time.

patroclus22 11th July 2002 02:01

Manowar. Definitely Manowar.

And yes, US Steel, too. Too bad Bethlehem Steel is going under :hang: Another one bites the dust.

Aero Zeppelin 11th July 2002 11:40

I never even heard of any of them.

zaybee_devil 11th July 2002 12:08

don't forget black sabbath u guyz

Fickle 11th July 2002 12:41

Black Sabbath
 
Van Halen is run by a dumb bastard who fires good singers and frontmen because of his wife.
Metallica sucks. Period.
The others I've never heard of.
My vote is for Black Sabbath, because they are much better (even if not as talented) as Van Halen and have a much more profound history.

randman 11th July 2002 14:24

AC/DC are still around aren't they? They truly rocked when Bon Scott was still alive, but I also like some of the stuff they did after Brian Johnson stepped in.

liquidmotion 11th July 2002 16:01

/me starts the chant: "Aerosmith! Aerosmith!"

randman 11th July 2002 16:31

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Originally posted by liquidmotion
/me starts the chant: "Aerosmith! Aerosmith!"
Aerosmith was good in the seventies. Now I'm not even sure they qualify as heavy metal with sappy songs like Cryin', Angel, Pink, etc. I'd tend to call them Pop-Metal. ;)

zootm 11th July 2002 17:53

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Originally posted by patroclus22
Manowar. Definitely Manowar.
DEFINATELY Manowar.

"if you're not into metal, then you are not my friend! HEAVY METAL!"

and aerosmith are not heavy metal by any stretch of the imagination. in my opinion.

Aero Zeppelin 11th July 2002 19:50

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Originally posted by randman


Aerosmith was good in the seventies. Now I'm not even sure they qualify as heavy metal with sappy songs like Cryin', Angel, Pink, etc. I'd tend to call them Pop-Metal. ;)

I never considered Aerosmith heavy metal, I say more hard rock. Heavy metal has a loud beat, especially in Metallica. Even though Lars is one of the worst people in Hollywood/music, he is an excellent drummer.

How can you say Cryin' and Angel are sappy? Aerosmith was just as popular and successful in the 80's/early 90's as in the 70s. Pink and after that may be kind of stupid.

AC/DC is great, but they aren't really heavy metal either. They haven't been so great in the late 80s and 90s, but Highway To Hell and Back In Black were their two best albums.

Van Halen is a great band. Don't hate them just because of how Eddie gets along with everyone. You should like the music. And Metallica may have been kind of messy in the early days, but ...And Justice For All and the Black Album were very good, along with most of the songs from Master Of Puppets.

Black Sabbath is alright, but I don't like Ozzy too much. He's a freak.

Trigear 11th July 2002 19:58

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Black Sabbath is alright, but I don't like Ozzy too much. He's a freak.
we ARE talking about metal here... ozzy is normal compared to many metal figureheads (cooper and manson, anyone?)

my vote goes to sabbath as well. ozzy is the grandfather of metal :D

i'd vote nin but they're nowhere near metal anymore. but what the hell, they still get my vote :D

fwgx 11th July 2002 21:07

Slayer / Megadeth / Sepultura / Pantera

I dunno if some people would class them as metal or whatnot. All class bands :up:

Aero Zeppelin 12th July 2002 00:51

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Originally posted by Phily Baby
Slayer / Megadeth / Sepultura / Pantera

I dunno if some people would class them as metal or whatnot. All class bands :up:

Yeah, they're definitely metal. I've never heard of Sepultura before. I think Dave Mustaine is the guitarist for Megadeth. He was the original guitarist for Metallica, but he had a really bad attitude and was messing around all the time, so then he got replaced by Kirk Hammett. I have some Megadeth on my PL, but I gotta work on getting some more.:)

Aero Zeppelin 12th July 2002 00:54

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Originally posted by triGEAR


we ARE talking about metal here... ozzy is normal compared to many metal figureheads (cooper and manson, anyone?)

my vote goes to sabbath as well. ozzy is the grandfather of metal :D

i'd vote nin but they're nowhere near metal anymore. but what the hell, they still get my vote :D

Manson is the biggest freak in music. He's more than metal. He's like death metal or something. I don't know much about Alice Cooper, but doesn't he just look weird not act that weird.

I really like one B.S. song, Paranoid. Short but great. I like the Vince Neil version too (from Mötley Crüe).

fish 12th July 2002 00:56

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Originally posted by Xerxes
US Steel has been the king of heavy metal for a very long time.
\m/ LTV Steel 4evar! \m/
meh, the cleveland steel industry is going down the hole.




Metallica has always been my favorite and always will. Sanitaruim, Enter Sandman, Master of Puppets, Call of the Ktulu. :up:

MetallichicA 12th July 2002 01:02

Black Sabbath are the Fathers of Metal perhaps. Dunno about the kings. Although I've heard it said that if you listen to any good metal riff, Black Sabbath did it first :)

Slayer- never got into them
Megadeth- love Rust In Peace, Youthanasia, most of Hidden Treasures, Countdown to Extinction, and a bit of Cryptic Writings; anything after CW has been pure crap. Sad to see Mustaine go though :(
Sepultura- same thing, they've gone downhill since Max left. I don't like their new vocalist at all.
Pantera- love almost every album. Didn't particularly care for Reinventing the Steel.

How about Bruce Dickinson? Hehehe. Iron Maiden, WOO!

I dunno about Metallica, although I think they've had one of the biggest influences on the music industry as far as what they're capable of. I'm kind of pissed at them lately for the whole Ja Rule thing lol :)

[rant]Know what I can't stand anymore, though? Bands whose backup music coincides EXACTLY with what the singer is singing. I mean, the notes, the rhythm, everything. If you listen to a song off Rust in Peace, and realize how many things are actually playing... it blows me away to think how much music has regressed as far as how complex it is. Has anyone else noticed that in Creed's "With Arms Wide Open", the chorus is made up of THREE NOTES. Three. Notes. That's not a song, it's Mary Had a Little Lamb.[/rant]

Aero Zeppelin 12th July 2002 01:13

Quote:

Originally posted by MetallichicA
Black Sabbath are the Fathers of Metal perhaps. Dunno about the kings. Although I've heard it said that if you listen to any good metal riff, Black Sabbath did it first :)

Slayer- never got into them
Megadeth- love Rust In Peace, Youthanasia, most of Hidden Treasures, Countdown to Extinction, and a bit of Cryptic Writings; anything after CW has been pure crap. Sad to see Mustaine go though :(
Sepultura- same thing, they've gone downhill since Max left. I don't like their new vocalist at all.
Pantera- love almost every album. Didn't particularly care for Reinventing the Steel.

How about Bruce Dickinson? Hehehe. Iron Maiden, WOO!

I dunno about Metallica, although I think they've had one of the biggest influences on the music industry as far as what they're capable of. I'm kind of pissed at them lately for the whole Ja Rule thing lol :)

[rant]Know what I can't stand anymore, though? Bands whose backup music coincides EXACTLY with what the singer is singing. I mean, the notes, the rhythm, everything. If you listen to a song off Rust in Peace, and realize how many things are actually playing... it blows me away to think how much music has regressed as far as how complex it is. Has anyone else noticed that in Creed's "With Arms Wide Open", the chorus is made up of THREE NOTES. Three. Notes. That's not a song, it's Mary Had a Little Lamb.[/rant]

I don't think Metallica's dead yet. I think they are about to be resurrected, according to what they claim is going on. http://www.encyclopedia-metallica.co...2-07-03b.shtml

spookz 12th July 2002 01:14

still got all the deep purple albums on cassette

Xerxes 12th July 2002 01:21

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Originally posted by MetallichicA

[rant]Know what I can't stand anymore, though? Bands whose backup music coincides EXACTLY with what the singer is singing. I mean, the notes, the rhythm, everything.

May I reccomend handel's harpsichord works and possibly "music for the royal fireworks" as well; Baroque counterpoint is the antithesis of modern music.

i.am.js 12th July 2002 01:37

I'd give the vote to Slayer. 20+ years and still going strong. Metallica p*sses me off because of the whole RIAA thing, so I can't give a unbiased grade on them. Plus they seem mellowed out since Load (or as I've heard it called, "A Load Of Crap.") And whoever wrote the comment about Aero getting sappy, I couldn't agree more. The late 80s they put out some decent stuff, but as the 90s rolled in I have to ask what the hell they were thinking? Pink? Are you kidding me?

MetallichicA 12th July 2002 04:01

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Originally posted by Xerxes


May I reccomend handel's harpsichord works and possibly "music for the royal fireworks" as well; Baroque counterpoint is the antithesis of modern music.

I'm not too big on harpsichord, although I do have a bit of Handel on here. Counterpoint is good if it's done well; I'm picky about it though. Too mathematical for my taste sometimes. I used to enjoy Baroque music a lot more, but my tastes have moved on a bit. It's fun to play on violin, and VERY interesting to sing. My brother and I used to have contests to take a measure with four different notes in it, and compose a song based on that as the first measure.

As I said before (you remember, that first time that you put down my taste in music?), I'm more into Enescu and Dvorak right now. Enescu's Romanian Rhapsodies are beautifully composed, although I have heard one orchestra slightly butcher them. I've got a really great Bartok/Weiner/Enescu cd right now, and it's amazing to hear them echo each other's music. Let's see, I also have Saint-Saens' Carnival of the Animals, Mussorgsky's Pictures at an Exhibition, a bit of Chopin, Bach, Schubert's Unfinished Symphony, Sibelius' Finlandia (which I've loved since I was about 3), Stravinsky's Firebird Suite, and some Haydn, and a couple other random things.

I've been involved in musical groups since I was 5. I've sung in a professional chorus, and played first violin in middle and high school orchestra. I was in our county's "elite" orchestra during middle school. I know what classical music is, and I can hold a conversation about it. Just because I enjoy heavy metal, country, alternative, rock and roll, hip-hop, rap, oldies, techno, and dance, that does NOT mean that I have no taste in music, nor does it mean I'm clueless when it comes to classical.

Sorry, I've had a very long day, and I'm tired of being talked down to. :(

And yes, Aerosmith has gone pretty sappy lately. Although the roller coaster at Disney was FRICKIN AWESOME, 0-60 in 3 seconds hehehe.

Aero Zeppelin 12th July 2002 04:22

Aerosmith's new songs are too dramatic and too playful. I heard they get mostly the help of other people to write the new songs. Jaded isn't that bad, and neither is Just Push Play (the song). After the Greatest Hits album Big Ones in 1994, they just did some boxed sets and live albums and then just started to suck. But the 70s and 80s were really good periods.

I wish there could be more talented bands today. If only Led Zeppelin or Pink Floyd or people like them were still around to make new albums. Soon Aerosmith and the Stones and other good classic bands won't be even alive to tour. The Who just ended when John Entwistle died, even though they are still going on tour. It's sad how it shows how little people want to work these days.:(

Yeah, Metallica got really "clean" during the Load and Reload period. And now Lars has blonde hair!:eek: Kirk is realy the only guy with long hair now. And I've alwayss wondered something; if Lars is always the one speaking out against P2P, has it ever been confirmed that James and Kirk and Jason agreed with Lars?

Trigear 12th July 2002 05:46

what do you guys think of dream theater? i love them.

Xerxes 12th July 2002 06:46

Quote:

Originally posted by MetallichicA

Just because I enjoy heavy metal, country, ... nor does it mean I'm clueless when it comes to classical.

You'll find yourself very different than the norm if you ask around...

Emperor Chen 12th July 2002 13:39

Post #3

In the stamina department:

AC/DC
Scorpions
Black Sabbath


In the most popular department:

Metallica*

In the most talented metal department:

Megadeth

In the most tragic waste of talent department/overall winner of the what-ego-can-do-to-you department:

Van Halen

*At one time/pre-Lars hugehead disease

MrHerms 12th July 2002 17:26

The #1 Metal band is and ever was: Iron Maiden! Anyone seen 'Rock In Rio'? That's Metal in it's perfection.

@AeroLed286: Pink Floyd may be dead, but there is still Roger Waters! He has done some great work after leaving Pink Floyd. The recently finished 'In The Flesh' tour was great (at least the concert in Zurich, Switzerland, were I saw him).

Anacific 12th July 2002 20:56

Bruce Dickinson definitely!! (his solo career)

Sandman2012 13th July 2002 01:33

I don't think Van Halen, even old Van Halen, can really be classified as metal. Many metalheads got into Van Halen, I think, because of the fast guitar work, usually unheard outside of metal at that time. But if you listen to the riffs they're really just surf-pop on speed with the volume cranked to 11.

Xerxes 13th July 2002 01:52

:)11!:)

Jon Deaux 13th July 2002 02:47

BLUE CHEER!!!!
Are any of em still alive?
Would'a been Roky and the 13th Floor Elevators if Roky Hadn't died at 15.


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