Be Afraid. Be Very Afraid...
 

Now look at what they've gone and done. It's terrible what they can do to us and we have no say in what happens. And don't you anti-Kazaa and P2P people come in here and start complaining. You should notice the injustice here. These people are lying and cheating about almost everything.:mad::hang:

http://www.*********riaa.com/article/5152

the riaa website got a DoS attack on it over the weekend, he he he

hmm the democrat from Cali should have announced the bill a long time before the 2002 elections.
but since Cali is strongly liberal and he's receiving piles of money from the RIAA and MPAA, he's confident in his re-election to push the bill.

Yeah I know. But the spokesman (who wanted to remain anonymous so he wouldn't be made fun of) for the RIAA said something REALLY rude. He said something like "At least the attacker was taking away from stealing music for 10 minutes." Those people are wimps.:rolleyes: :mad:

this was posted in breaking news on 7-27 :
http://forums.winamp.com/showthread.php?threadid=95946
and there's another thread about the DoS attack on the RIAA site:
http://forums.winamp.com/showthread.php?threadid=96156
fucking RIAA

But who's to say that the attacker didn't have a program which could conduct the Denial of Service attack whilst he better spend his time downloading music? ;)

Honestly though, there are a few of us here with the technical know-how that dont even have to hack to perform DoS attacks. ;) You know who you are ;)

Anyway, under the new proposed Bermann bill will basically give certain people the 'Right to Hack' to conduct legal DoS attacks on the file sharing networks to bring them down. The bill will also give people the right to hack individual computers to delete any and all copyrighted files, which raises huge security issues about personal info, etc...

I dont want to be racist, so I will censor this next statent:
The RIAA are just a bunch of greedy, fu****g _______ people who are sore over losing a few million which wouldnt affect their quality of life regardless, and the artist (a lot of them) are just the same. Though there are those that deserve the money and also even at the same time, supportthe service, then those who love it but then want it killed after they become popular. *cough*Metallica*cough*

aint DoS just a rapid fire ping?

Good point!lol:D

Metallica has big issues. I really enjoy their music, but the people behind it-whoa! Especially Lars. He is such a freak. They have plenty of money they are the 13th biggest musical act EVER and most of any artist's money comes from contracts and concerts and merchandise, not record sales, which has not dropped at all. It has actually gotten bigger, but the RIAA wants to lie about it. Metallica shows they love their fans by sueing them inderectly and then they invite the same people to the MetalliBash 2002 and then some more people that "steal" music go on the San Francisco tour with James, Kirk, and Lars in the studio. They are crazy.

Hasn't he ever heard of Multitasking?:D

i feel they would probably put their music in queue first, start the DOS, and then continue on putting more songs in queue periodicly throughout the attack. I found the attack somewhat amusing and ironic, but it did more damage to "the cause" than it helped. I interviewed the developer of a p2p application called FileNavigator (the program that the ORIGINAL version of Morpheus was a clone of) just last night for my website, this is what he had to say:

If anyone wants to see the full interview i posted it on the other forum i go to. You can read it by going
here.


but seriously though, if we are ever going to win this "war" between the RIAA/MPAA and the file sharing community we need to aproach them in a different manor. Right now the ppl @ the RIAA/MPAA think that "we" are a bunch of punk ass kids, hackers, slackers, crackers, and all those other things that have a derogatory meaning to it. Which we are not...but yeah, thats my 2 cents..

If they really think we are all badass punks that is pretty stupid. Vitually everyone who likes music and has an internet connection uses Kazaa or some P2P app. And they should be honest with themselves and know that not everyone in the world is a punk. And really a whole lot of people use Kazaa. I was (trying to) download the new 1.7.2 version of Kazaa at CNET's Download.com and there is almost 1,000,000,000 downloads of it! That's one billion people you are going to piss off and they may eventually be some sort of riot or something. It might be good for more people to go to WinMX since the RIAA's main target is definitely the Kazaa network. And they know that once Kazaa is destroyed, a new and better service will appear.

I know this is not realistic, but I wish there could be some sort of underground network that will be distributed secretly somehow and the RIAA may know about it but they might not be able to find it. Or maybe a new internet or something. I don't know.

I totally agree. This can't be good for the Resistance. What gets me real pissed is that the RIAA are all a bunch of prejudiced losers who think that if once one person does something he or she means it to represent the entire group. Yes the attack was funny but also very wimpy and that person deserves to get in trouble. That has a very bad effect on all of us. Sometimes those RIAA people are so pathetic I wanna scream :mad: because they are also winning at an unfair advantage because they treat us like rat shit and we are not allowed to resist and say what we think and speak out against it. But it will definitely not be good for our economy if the RIAA falls apart. So now we are trapped. If we lose we could live with defeat all our lives and they will feel that what they did was right, but if justice shall prevail and we win, they will know who is right but at the cost of the collapse of the economy which is already terrible. But if I was going to take a vote on that, I would say to let the economy fail and just get those stupid motherfuckers out of my life and everyone's lives.

It's not just a simple matter of getting rid of the RIAA, it's a matter of educating polititians, and getting what the PEOPLE want done. In theory, if enough people contacted their congressmen/women and said "hey, this is how i want it to be, and if you dont vote that way, your not getting re-elected" then we could get Laws passed, or at least deter laws such as this hacking bill the recording industry wants to pass (which won't just because of how broad a range of issues it actualy affects, not to mention the fact that it would have such an enourmous backlash it would be revoked imediatley) from being passed.

I'm not saying we can "win" this whole thing by talking to our congressmen/women about the issue, but it's one of the first major steps we need to take in order to win, a congressman is concerned with getting re-elected, they are either delegates (voting acording to how we say they should), or representitives(taking into consideration their constituants (sp?) opinions, but making the final decision about their vote themself. Judges on the other hand, which are what we are dealing more with, do whatever they please as far as ruling go...so..i recomend we start the Judicial Bribery system...i'll create a paypal account and we can use donated funds to bribe judges to rule in favor of p2p applications..good idea ay?

note: im tired as fuck, if this post makes little or no sense, im sorry...lol

Good point. I don't know if enough people will actually stand up for themselves. The Resistance needs to form some sort of plan and actually have some sort of real rebellion against these people. All of us should decide on a specific date to bother our politicians about this and they will give in if we all stick to it. And that would be awesome.:)

if you had'nt noticed, we are winning! dont we all download music for free? havent we all gotten away with it? so thats a big fuck you to assholes that want to mess with your HD. we already beat them, and they are whining about it and threatening you personally. its crap and they are crap. record companies supress more good acts than they release. its bullshit. look a the garbage on the radio. who gives a shit if we dont get to hear that anymore. the artists arent too fond of the riaa either. or record companies. the companies/RIAA need to let go and go with it, because its backward to try to fight it, like trying to row up a waterfall with a spork. if the riaa and other entities star maliciously attacking people then its basically a sure bet that they will be dos'd and hacked to peices. to sum up, they are assholes.

Yes, we have been winning. But there whole point of this thread is to show the new threat to all of us. Who knows if we will win? It all depends on the government because the people hardly ever win in a situation like this. The best thing to do is to show that we are civilized and they are not. The artists have hated the record companies since at least the 70s when Led Zeppelin formed their own label, Swan Song. If all those renegades really made a difference we would have seen the end of the RIAA already.

No we probably will not win since today's "democracy" favors the large companies. And this isn't exactly a company either. It is more than a company. It is several of the largest companies put together and given unlimited power. We have been able to get all the music we want but that may soon change with government hackers. Hopefully our firewalls and intrusion protection programs will work against this and they sure as hell better not make them illegal or they will certainly be dismantled by the government.

Another thing. How many people here are pr0n users when you are not old enough? Don't answer that question, but the government, if given the right to spy on you may see all your shit which you thought was safe. Not only the pr0n but all your private documents, vacation pictures, other stuff that they do not need to know about.

I am so tired of talking about this all. It gets me more fucked up every time I read anything more or write anything. All we can do is wait for a large organized group of rebels to stand up against all of this. And those people cannot go around flooding evil websites or doing anything which really is babyish and illegal.