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Old 7th October 2009, 04:19   #11
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Originally posted by swingdjted
The problem is that I think his neck has grown so used to it that it doesn't seem to affect him anymore.
Yep, that's because those training collars are a stupid waste of time only to be used if you are a weak and only for training, not for your daily walkies. I wouldn't use them at all but I think if you consider using them that whether you use them would be inversely proportional to how cooperative the dog is.

Pain doesn't teach a dog anything.

You look stout enough to be able to restrain the dog with a nylon collar. Buy a strong one. The teeth sticking into his neck is only going to distract him from what you have to teach him. I've noticed it also makes the dogs more hyper. Getting steel spikes jammed into your neck would probably make you more hyper too. Toss the choke collar. Train the dog.

I have always had big dogs (for 40 years) and I've only found one method of lead training that will work. Among dogs I've trained this way were a 160 lb. Great Dane, 100lb. Daisy, a 130lb. German shepherd and a big, big Rotty named Kang. You'll want to load up an ipod, because you are going to get really bored. It will be worth a few hours to have a dog that won't drag you. Being dragged is one of my pet peeves and I have gotten all of my dogs to not drag me when tied to my belt.

Plan on spending an hour a day for 4 days. At the end of that you will be pretty close. No one else should walk the dog during that time. You must be absolutely consistent. That's important when training a dog to do anything.

Hook the dog up and get away from your door. Dogs are a little weird about doors. When the dog pulls you, stop the dog, sit the dog and sit down with the dog. Talk to the dog and explain repeatedly "You were "PULLIN!", we can't go... SIT". You should pet the dog too. The idea is that you are trying to teach the dog the meaning of the word "PULLIN" and that "PULLIN" means that we can't go. Wait a clocked 2 minutes. Go again.

The deal here is that the dog will always want to explore. "PULLIN" will only result in getting sitted. The dog will figure it out pretty quick.

It may take you the whole hour to get 100 feet. Those are the breaks. After the hour turn the dog loose in the yard. After 3 or 4 sessions you will have a dog that will walk nice. A somewhat automatic side effect is that when you stop on a walk and tug the leash, the dog will automatically sit. Don't ask me why. Another side effect is that training like this will teach the dog to calm down. You might like that part since you mentioned it.

You can employ the same training technique with "HEEL" when you get "PULLIN" down. When heeling the dog should be on your left and slightly in front of you. A dog will understand "wrong side" Surprisingly they can tell left from right. I use "GO PLAY" as the release command from heel.

Then you have to train the dog's people to use what you taught the dog.

If you get heel down and the dog is by disposition calm enough, you won't need a leash at all. Daisy will heel with no leash. The big rotty I had would. The German Shepherd was too hype, but would still walk nice on a lead.

The only way this will not work is if you don't do it. I always have well behaved dogs and people look at me like it's some kind of miracle. I tell them how and then they don't do it.

A happy dog is a well trained dog. You really owe it to them to train them well.

At 14 weeks, with various techniques, I always have a dog that won't pull, won't shit, won't pee, mostly won't chew stuff up. You do unfortunately have to realize that they aren't grown up until they are 2 years old, where you get the real benefit of how well you trained them.

I personally like going to the farmers market with Daisy tied to my waist and being able to hold a hot espresso without wearing it.

When you get your lead training down, public places are a good thing for dogs. It gives them confidence and they won't be so wary of strangers. Don't worry. They still stay protective enough.

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Always remember:

For at least 10,000 years your pooch has been raised by people, bred by people and customized to be your pal.

There is nothing more that your dog wants to do than please you. It's bred into them.


Your main problem in training any dog is to get them calm enough so that you can talk to them. They'll understand at least 100 words and be your pal then. They are autistic. It's an important to remember that. You can yell at them, but you always have to be sure they know what you're doing that for.

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He's been dead for about two years now
Aw! That's too long to be without a pooch. I've never been able to be w/o a pooch for more than 6 months.

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My dogs can beat up your dogs anyday!
Nice dobies. Uncropped is good.

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