SHOUTcast DNAS 2 Beta v0.1

**Brutish Sailor** · 24 February 2010, 16:31

I guess what Im asking is how the server passes a file out for the stream/ how do connect the source to the stream when their is multiple streams on the same server.

I know with IC2 you have mount points, which are sub directories of the IP.

It doesn't appear that the stream goes to a mount point, So with that being said, how is it that the server recognizes different sources, and what does the file, that server gives to the listening client, do that causes it to know the difference between different streams on the same IP?

**nradisch** · 24 February 2010, 16:36

Okay, I think I understand your question.

In sc_trans set

outprotocol=3
uvoxstreamid=stream id specified in sc_serv config file

since these options in sc_trans are "multi", you can have a single sc_trans generate multiple streams for an sc_serv. For example

outprotocol_0=3
uvoxstreamid_0=5
outprotocol_1=3
uvoxstreamid_1=12

etc.

If you use the old shoutcast protocol (outprotocol=1 which is the default in sc_trans) then you can only attach one of them to sc_serv since there is no way to discriminate streams.

--Neil

**Brutish Sailor** · 24 February 2010, 19:08

Got it. Thanks.

**bored_womble** · 25 February 2010, 11:04

Originally posted by SC_faisal
Yep - this is only a 0.1 release... Would love to hear your feedback and wish list of what we should focus on for oncoming releases.

Let us know!
f.

so looking through the code it appears to be a completely different code base to SC1 which I suppose is not a surprise but means a couple of things need to be thought about

i) Some method to be able to get simple track information. It has been mentioned, so 7.html, perhaps not this format but say a simple URL get which provides this information such as

http://10.1.1.1/index.html?item=track

would give back the current track name ? then people could get items as they need without too much bandwidth.

ii) it appears you may have some bitrate management code in the pipeline it would be good to hear about it. This may of course just be UVOX specific.

iii) The UVOX specification allows listener authentication are you going to implement that ? So people who switched to Icecast for listener authentication can switch back to SC2.

iv) some method to 'template' the index.html. This will either allow people to blank it out or provide their own skin to it, so remove the dubious requests for changing the index file.

v) Are you going to make available the UVOX specification so people can write clients rather than just using Sc_trans2 ?

I await the next drop

Good stuff though, a little life in SC yet

BW

**dotme** · 25 February 2010, 13:32

It's exciting to see movement on this. Here's my short (for now) wishlist, along with a couple of questions...

1) Legacy encoder support would be important for a lot of people I think (in = portnumber, out = mount point)
Example:
Encoder connects on http://1.2.3.4:5678, listener connects on http://1.2.3.4:80/5678

Why? No offense, but sc_trans is well beyond the capabilities of non-technical users - heck, I can't even figure it out, and broadcasters have considerable money already invested in DJ software like SAM Broadcaster, Station Playlist and dozens of other packages out there. If I want to offer a 128k stream with audio processing, I don't want it "transcoded" at all. I want to push it to the server, end of story.

2) Authentication support for password protected/subscription streams would be cool. Something like the way Icecast currently supports it today. Listener is challenged, and provides username/pass. Shoutcast server then issues the call to a broadcaster website script URL, which "acks" or "naks" the connection attempt.

My questions...

1) Can you add/delete objects in the STREAM CONFIGS area "on the fly" without a restart of the core exe?

2) Can you specify max listeners, stream PW etc, on a per-stream basis?

3) Can SC2 RELAY a private SC1 server and be YP2 compatible that way?

**jaromanda** · 25 February 2010, 22:42

Originally posted by bored_womble
v) Are you going to make available the UVOX specification so people can write clients rather than just using Sc_trans2 ?

I wonder if http://ultravox.aol.com/ (includes spec and reference apps) is at all relevant to the "uvox 2.1" protocol in sc2?

**bored_womble** · 26 February 2010, 08:12

Originally posted by jaromanda
I wonder if http://ultravox.aol.com/ (includes spec and reference apps) is at all relevant to the "uvox 2.1" protocol in sc2?

#

it does ... but it has not been updated since 2004 .... I am guessing there has been some changes since then ...

BW

**nitromix** · 26 February 2010, 08:27

Hello,

I like to know where i can find some example of config file for SC_SERV2. I look on documentation and there is not do clear for me how is working (source, relay, etc ...)

Thanks

**Greg_E** · 28 February 2010, 16:49

How often are builds going to be released? Is it going to be a "when we have spare time" or is it going to be every XXX weeks?

**DaZilertaler** · 1 March 2010, 11:59

today i gave the new beta a go on win7
i have buffer problems on song change
2010-03-01 14:19:12 I msg:[admincgi]title update [Susanna And The Magical Orchestra - Itï¿½s A Long Way To The Top]
2010-03-01 14:19:15 E msg:Bad UTF-8 code (92) at position 5f
2010-03-01 14:19:12 E msg:Failure converting filename to metadata Bad UTF-8 code (92) at position 26
2010-03-01 14:19:12 E msg:Failure converting filename to metadata Bad UTF-8 code (92) at position 26

a sc_serv config example would be handy i think i'm doing something wrong

have a nic day

**SC_faisal** · 1 March 2010, 15:11

Originally posted by Greg_E
How often are builds going to be released? Is it going to be a "when we have spare time" or is it going to be every XXX weeks?

We hope to release one when we have enough bug fixes / new features. Looking forward to a new release soon...

f.

**nradisch** · 1 March 2010, 16:44

Your playlists must be valid UTF-8 and any metadata embedded in the audio files must also be valid UTF-8. sc_serv and sc_trans do not accept locale based character sets.

--Neil

Originally posted by DaZilertaler
today i gave the new beta a go on win7
i have buffer problems on song change
2010-03-01 14:19:12 I msg:[admincgi]title update [Susanna And The Magical Orchestra - Itï¿½s A Long Way To The Top]
2010-03-01 14:19:15 E msg:Bad UTF-8 code (92) at position 5f
2010-03-01 14:19:12 E msg:Failure converting filename to metadata Bad UTF-8 code (92) at position 26
2010-03-01 14:19:12 E msg:Failure converting filename to metadata Bad UTF-8 code (92) at position 26

a sc_serv config example would be handy i think i'm doing something wrong

have a nic day

**Klausi2007** · 1 March 2010, 19:35

Is it possible to relay a 1.9.8 server without yp2 compatibility?

When i try "relayport" and "relayserver", the sc_serv ends up there:

shoutcast2beta# ./sc_serv sc_10666.conf
2010-03-01 21:26:30 I msg:<***> Logger startup
2010-03-01 21:26:30 I msg:<***> version 0.2.0.0 build 0.0.7.0
2010-03-01 21:26:30 D msg:<***>
2010-03-01 21:26:30 I msg:[main] calculated cpu count is 2
2010-03-01 21:26:30 I msg:[main] starting 2 network threads
2010-03-01 21:26:30 I msg:[ban] Banned 0 IP's
2010-03-01 21:26:30 I msg:[rip] 0 entries in rip list

It has to be killed with "kill-9" ...

Regards, Klaus

**nitromix** · 1 March 2010, 20:43

Originally posted by Klausi2007
Is it possible to relay a 1.9.8 server without yp2 compatibility?

When i try "relayport" and "relayserver", the sc_serv ends up there:

shoutcast2beta# ./sc_serv sc_10666.conf
2010-03-01 21:26:30 I msg:<***> Logger startup
2010-03-01 21:26:30 I msg:<***> version 0.2.0.0 build 0.0.7.0
2010-03-01 21:26:30 D msg:<***>
2010-03-01 21:26:30 I msg:[main] calculated cpu count is 2
2010-03-01 21:26:30 I msg:[main] starting 2 network threads
2010-03-01 21:26:30 I msg:[ban] Banned 0 IP's
2010-03-01 21:26:30 I msg:[rip] 0 entries in rip list

It has to be killed with "kill-9" ...

Regards, Klaus

From what i understnd from config files, for relay you have to use:
streamrelayurl=

Personal i try to get relay from SHOUTcast 1.9.8 but all the time on Winamp i get this error: "[ICY 401 Service Unavailable]]"

SHOUTcast 2 connect on SHOUTcast 1.9.8, get the stream signal and after that i get:

2010-03-01 23:42:27 E msg:[dst 192.168.1.89:4742 sid=2] Shoutcast 1 cl
ient connection rejected. Stream not available. WinampMPEG/5.57, Ultravox/2.1
2010-03-01 23:42:39 W msg:[yp2] Timeout waiting for data retrying
2010-03-01 23:42:39 I msg:[yp2] Connecting to yp.shoutcast.com

So without a clear info about config file and maybe a working YP2, we can not use yet

**Greg_E** · 2 March 2010, 17:51

How about adding support for Flash encoders and Flash streaming?(kernel level not built on Java)

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