ICY and Getting listed

BOTN · 11th June 2003, 14:55

I have installed (actually the tech where my server did) shoutcast on my dedicated linux server.

My two questions are what do I tell my tech person to do to:
1: get my station listed on shoutcast.com, and
2: How do I get the ICY service to work? I currently get a ICY 401 message.

Thank you in advance for any help you can give me.

FesterHead · 11th June 2003, 15:50

Q: How to get my station listed on shoutcast.com
A: Make the DNAS public, have an error free startup, and see "yp added me" in the DNAS log.

Q: How do I get the ICY service to work?
Q: Send the DNAS a source before you connect.

BOTN · 11th June 2003, 16:55

Thank you for replying. My DNAS is public so that is good. I don't understand how to "Send the DNAS a source before you connect".

matt2kjones · 11th June 2003, 17:41

you need to send the shoutcast music, for it to broadcast it. For example, install the dsp on your pc, then setup the dsp to connect to the shoutcast server. The send the stream live to the shoutcast server.

people will then be able to hear that when they connect to the dnas server software.

FesterHead · 11th June 2003, 17:44

Yes, a Winamp/DSP combo source works nicely from a Windows based machine.

From LInux, you could use sc_trans.

BOTN · 11th June 2003, 18:13

I am "on the air" and broadcasting nicely. Sounds great. I am a broadcast engineer. It is the computer where I am weak

I get a 401 service unavailable message where the song title and artist should be. Other than that everything is working fine. so, how do I get rid of the error message and get my song info in the player?

matt2kjones · 11th June 2003, 18:16

ok i know whats up, so music streams but it still says 401 error

what u need to do is open up the winamp dsp

click yellow pages tab

then setup the dsp to send the song titles

let me know if it works....

BOTN · 11th June 2003, 18:48

well kinda

I see now in song history it shows CURRENT SONG after the error message. Originally I bought streams from an ISP not realizing the server software was available. Discovering that I had it installed on my server. I see the old IP address showing in the DNAS instead of my current IP, the one I am using.

I appreciate you help. So I guess another question is why isn't the player or DNAS picking up my IP?

matt2kjones · 11th June 2003, 18:53

old ip address??? where do u see this, in the admin panel???

also, are any error messages logged, look in the log file

does the winamp dsp say its connected?

BOTN · 11th June 2003, 19:02

if you go to my DNAS which is http://207.234.248.242:8000 you will see my old IP address in there. Also, I have no idea what my username is. I have a password on the dsp but no username so I can't get into the "admin logon"

matt2kjones · 11th June 2003, 19:05

username is admin, you cant change that

so does the server log any error messages when you connect to it with the dsp?

BOTN · 11th June 2003, 19:07

ok, i got into the admin panel. it says name lookups are off, intro file is disabled, auto client disconnects are disabled. does this help? are these turned on at the server?

matt2kjones · 11th June 2003, 19:11

disconnect your dsp, then reconnect.

then login to the admin pannel

goto tail logfile

post its contents here

Jay · 11th June 2003, 19:12

BOTN if you are broadcasting through the soundcard go to the DSP plugin and choose the output tab and click on yellow pages and where it says Title erase what's in there.

BOTN · 11th June 2003, 19:24

The TRACK TITLE/URL box is checked and the AUTO boxes are also check. Nothing is written or can be written in the TITLE and URL box

BOTN · 11th June 2003, 19:29

<06/11/03@15:37:29> [source] icy-name:Back of THE NET Soccer Radio ; icy-genre:Soccer Talk
<06/11/03@15:37:29> [source] icy-pub:1 ; icy-br:24 ; icy-url:http://www.backofthenet.com
<06/11/03@15:37:29> [source] icy-irc:n/a ; icy-icq:n/a ; icy-aim:backofthenet
<06/11/03@15:37:37> [source] source dropped connection. disconnecting.
<06/11/03@15:37:43> [source] connected from 68.194.182.228
<06/11/03@15:37:43> [source] icy-name:Back of THE NET Soccer Radio ; icy-genre:Soccer Talk
<06/11/03@15:37:43> [source] icy-pub:1 ; icy-br:64 ; icy-url:http://www.backofthenet.com
<06/11/03@15:37:43> [source] icy-irc:n/a ; icy-icq:n/a ; icy-aim:backofthenet
<06/11/03@15:37:45> [source] source dropped connection. disconnecting.
<06/11/03@15:37:46> [source] connected from 68.194.182.228
<06/11/03@15:37:46> [source] icy-name:Back of THE NET Soccer Radio ; icy-genre:Soccer Talk
<06/11/03@15:37:46> [source] icy-pub:1 ; icy-br:64 ; icy-url:http://www.backofthenet.com
<06/11/03@15:37:46> [source] icy-irc:n/a ; icy-icq:n/a ; icy-aim:backofthenet
<06/11/03@15:37:51> [source] source dropped connection. disconnecting.
<06/11/03@15:37:51> [source] connected from 68.194.182.228
<06/11/03@15:37:52> [source] icy-name:Back of THE NET Soccer Radio ; icy-genre:Soccer Talk
<06/11/03@15:37:52> [source] icy-pub:1 ; icy-br:64 ; icy-url:http://www.backofthenet.com
<06/11/03@15:37:52> [source] icy-irc:n/a ; icy-icq:n/a ; icy-aim:backofthenet
<06/11/03@15:37:54> [source] source dropped connection. disconnecting.
<06/11/03@15:37:55> [source] connected from 68.194.182.228
<06/11/03@15:37:58> [source] icy-name:Back of THE NET Soccer Radio ; icy-genre:Soccer Talk
<06/11/03@15:37:58> [source] icy-pub:1 ; icy-br:64 ; icy-url:http://www.backofthenet.com
<06/11/03@15:37:58> [source] icy-irc:n/a ; icy-icq:n/a ; icy-aim:backofthenet
<06/11/03@15:37:58> [source] source dropped connection. disconnecting.
<06/11/03@15:38:26> [source] connected from 68.194.182.228
<06/11/03@15:38:27> [source] icy-name:Back of THE NET Soccer Radio ; icy-genre:Soccer Talk
<06/11/03@15:38:27> [source] icy-pub:1 ; icy-br:64 ; icy-url:http://www.backofthenet.com
<06/11/03@15:38:27> [source] icy-irc:n/a ; icy-icq:n/a ; icy-aim:backofthenet
<06/11/03@15:38:37> [dest: 24.184.64.253] connection closed (487

Jay · 11th June 2003, 19:35

well let me tell you what you are doing

you currently are using winamp itself to source the stream, because winamp is not playing anything due to the 401 error in winamp no data is being encoded therefore no data being sent to the server. The server will kick you. What is it exactly you want to broadcast? Another stream? A live signal? A bunch of MP3s?

BOTN · 11th June 2003, 19:42

A live signal. I am using WEBJOCKEY, with mp3's for music and i will be having jocks/presenters giving live news inbetween the music

Jay · 11th June 2003, 19:43

ok so go to the input tab of the dsp and set it to soundcard

then go to the title field again and uncheck auto and make sure the field is blank or just put "Live feed" or "Live DJ" or "DJ ??? is on the air" or whatever you want the listeners to see.

BOTN · 11th June 2003, 19:53

Thanks so much for your help everyone

11th June 2003, 14:55	#1
BOTN Junior Member Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Long Island NY Posts: 26	ICY and Getting listed I have installed (actually the tech where my server did) shoutcast on my dedicated linux server. My two questions are what do I tell my tech person to do to: 1: get my station listed on shoutcast.com, and 2: How do I get the ICY service to work? I currently get a ICY 401 message. Thank you in advance for any help you can give me.

11th June 2003, 17:41	#4
matt2kjones Major Dude Join Date: May 2002 Location: UK Posts: 929	you need to send the shoutcast music, for it to broadcast it. For example, install the dsp on your pc, then setup the dsp to connect to the shoutcast server. The send the stream live to the shoutcast server. people will then be able to hear that when they connect to the dnas server software. TDD House & Trance Radio: [ 64k Stream \| Visit Site ]

11th June 2003, 18:16	#7
matt2kjones Major Dude Join Date: May 2002 Location: UK Posts: 929	ok i know whats up, so music streams but it still says 401 error what u need to do is open up the winamp dsp click yellow pages tab then setup the dsp to send the song titles let me know if it works.... TDD House & Trance Radio: [ 64k Stream \| Visit Site ]

11th June 2003, 18:53	#9
matt2kjones Major Dude Join Date: May 2002 Location: UK Posts: 929	old ip address??? where do u see this, in the admin panel??? also, are any error messages logged, look in the log file does the winamp dsp say its connected? TDD House & Trance Radio: [ 64k Stream \| Visit Site ]

11th June 2003, 19:05	#11
matt2kjones Major Dude Join Date: May 2002 Location: UK Posts: 929	username is admin, you cant change that so does the server log any error messages when you connect to it with the dsp? TDD House & Trance Radio: [ 64k Stream \| Visit Site ]

11th June 2003, 15:50	#2
FesterHead Alumni Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: Maui, Hawaii Posts: 14,108	Q: How to get my station listed on shoutcast.com A: Make the DNAS public, have an error free startup, and see "yp added me" in the DNAS log. Q: How do I get the ICY service to work? Q: Send the DNAS a source before you connect.

11th June 2003, 16:55	#3
BOTN Junior Member Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Long Island NY Posts: 26	Thank you for replying. My DNAS is public so that is good. I don't understand how to "Send the DNAS a source before you connect".

11th June 2003, 17:44	#5
FesterHead Alumni Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: Maui, Hawaii Posts: 14,108	Yes, a Winamp/DSP combo source works nicely from a Windows based machine. From LInux, you could use sc_trans.

11th June 2003, 18:13	#6
BOTN Junior Member Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Long Island NY Posts: 26	I am "on the air" and broadcasting nicely. Sounds great. I am a broadcast engineer. It is the computer where I am weak I get a 401 service unavailable message where the song title and artist should be. Other than that everything is working fine. so, how do I get rid of the error message and get my song info in the player?

11th June 2003, 18:48	#8
BOTN Junior Member Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Long Island NY Posts: 26	well kinda I see now in song history it shows CURRENT SONG after the error message. Originally I bought streams from an ISP not realizing the server software was available. Discovering that I had it installed on my server. I see the old IP address showing in the DNAS instead of my current IP, the one I am using. I appreciate you help. So I guess another question is why isn't the player or DNAS picking up my IP?

11th June 2003, 19:02	#10
BOTN Junior Member Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Long Island NY Posts: 26	if you go to my DNAS which is http://207.234.248.242:8000 you will see my old IP address in there. Also, I have no idea what my username is. I have a password on the dsp but no username so I can't get into the "admin logon"

11th June 2003, 19:07	#12
BOTN Junior Member Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Long Island NY Posts: 26	ok, i got into the admin panel. it says name lookups are off, intro file is disabled, auto client disconnects are disabled. does this help? are these turned on at the server?

11th June 2003, 19:11	#13
matt2kjones Major Dude Join Date: May 2002 Location: UK Posts: 929	disconnect your dsp, then reconnect. then login to the admin pannel goto tail logfile post its contents here TDD House & Trance Radio: [ 64k Stream \| Visit Site ]

11th June 2003, 19:12	#14
Jay Moderator Alumni Join Date: May 2000 Location: Next Door Posts: 8,942	BOTN if you are broadcasting through the soundcard go to the DSP plugin and choose the output tab and click on yellow pages and where it says Title erase what's in there. -Jay \| Radio Toolbox.com

11th June 2003, 19:24	#15
BOTN Junior Member Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Long Island NY Posts: 26	The TRACK TITLE/URL box is checked and the AUTO boxes are also check. Nothing is written or can be written in the TITLE and URL box

11th June 2003, 19:29	#16
BOTN Junior Member Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Long Island NY Posts: 26	<06/11/03@15:37:29> [source] icy-name:Back of THE NET Soccer Radio ; icy-genre:Soccer Talk <06/11/03@15:37:29> [source] icy-pub:1 ; icy-br:24 ; icy-url:http://www.backofthenet.com <06/11/03@15:37:29> [source] icy-irc:n/a ; icy-icq:n/a ; icy-aim:backofthenet <06/11/03@15:37:37> [source] source dropped connection. disconnecting. <06/11/03@15:37:43> [source] connected from 68.194.182.228 <06/11/03@15:37:43> [source] icy-name:Back of THE NET Soccer Radio ; icy-genre:Soccer Talk <06/11/03@15:37:43> [source] icy-pub:1 ; icy-br:64 ; icy-url:http://www.backofthenet.com <06/11/03@15:37:43> [source] icy-irc:n/a ; icy-icq:n/a ; icy-aim:backofthenet <06/11/03@15:37:45> [source] source dropped connection. disconnecting. <06/11/03@15:37:46> [source] connected from 68.194.182.228 <06/11/03@15:37:46> [source] icy-name:Back of THE NET Soccer Radio ; icy-genre:Soccer Talk <06/11/03@15:37:46> [source] icy-pub:1 ; icy-br:64 ; icy-url:http://www.backofthenet.com <06/11/03@15:37:46> [source] icy-irc:n/a ; icy-icq:n/a ; icy-aim:backofthenet <06/11/03@15:37:51> [source] source dropped connection. disconnecting. <06/11/03@15:37:51> [source] connected from 68.194.182.228 <06/11/03@15:37:52> [source] icy-name:Back of THE NET Soccer Radio ; icy-genre:Soccer Talk <06/11/03@15:37:52> [source] icy-pub:1 ; icy-br:64 ; icy-url:http://www.backofthenet.com <06/11/03@15:37:52> [source] icy-irc:n/a ; icy-icq:n/a ; icy-aim:backofthenet <06/11/03@15:37:54> [source] source dropped connection. disconnecting. <06/11/03@15:37:55> [source] connected from 68.194.182.228 <06/11/03@15:37:58> [source] icy-name:Back of THE NET Soccer Radio ; icy-genre:Soccer Talk <06/11/03@15:37:58> [source] icy-pub:1 ; icy-br:64 ; icy-url:http://www.backofthenet.com <06/11/03@15:37:58> [source] icy-irc:n/a ; icy-icq:n/a ; icy-aim:backofthenet <06/11/03@15:37:58> [source] source dropped connection. disconnecting. <06/11/03@15:38:26> [source] connected from 68.194.182.228 <06/11/03@15:38:27> [source] icy-name:Back of THE NET Soccer Radio ; icy-genre:Soccer Talk <06/11/03@15:38:27> [source] icy-pub:1 ; icy-br:64 ; icy-url:http://www.backofthenet.com <06/11/03@15:38:27> [source] icy-irc:n/a ; icy-icq:n/a ; icy-aim:backofthenet <06/11/03@15:38:37> [dest: 24.184.64.253] connection closed (487

11th June 2003, 19:35	#17
Jay Moderator Alumni Join Date: May 2000 Location: Next Door Posts: 8,942	well let me tell you what you are doing you currently are using winamp itself to source the stream, because winamp is not playing anything due to the 401 error in winamp no data is being encoded therefore no data being sent to the server. The server will kick you. What is it exactly you want to broadcast? Another stream? A live signal? A bunch of MP3s? -Jay \| Radio Toolbox.com

11th June 2003, 19:42	#18
BOTN Junior Member Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Long Island NY Posts: 26	A live signal. I am using WEBJOCKEY, with mp3's for music and i will be having jocks/presenters giving live news inbetween the music

11th June 2003, 19:43	#19
Jay Moderator Alumni Join Date: May 2000 Location: Next Door Posts: 8,942	ok so go to the input tab of the dsp and set it to soundcard then go to the title field again and uncheck auto and make sure the field is blank or just put "Live feed" or "Live DJ" or "DJ ??? is on the air" or whatever you want the listeners to see. -Jay \| Radio Toolbox.com

11th June 2003, 19:53	#20
BOTN Junior Member Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Long Island NY Posts: 26	Thanks so much for your help everyone

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