Is A.I. all its cranked up to be?

[EnDurA]

well, i downloaded ecceliza (a supposed "AI" program) and have been testing its reactions to different types of people and moods. for what it is (freeware), it is pretty good, putting each word into different catagories, and analyzing your reply word by word, much the same as the human brain would, but does not fully understand long replies. i got a log file from one of out "sessions"

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ECC-Eliza V4.09 log file #9.
Starting time: 1-Jul-2003, 14:38:50.

Patient: ANDREW.

Eliza : HOW ARE YOU DOING TODAY, ANDREW? TALK TO ME ABOUT YOUR TROUBLES AS I AM YOUR PSYCHOLOGIST, AND WILL TRY TO HELP.
Andrew: I hate my life
Eliza : AND WHAT WOULD YOU LIKE ME TO DO?
Andrew: kill me
Eliza : BUT ISN'T THERE ANY SOLUTION FOR THIS?
Andrew: no, please, i don't deserve to live
Eliza : YOU CAN SAY IT AGAIN, BUT THE ANSWER IS NO
Andrew: you don't understand me
Eliza : IS IT TOO DIFFICULT FOR YOU TO UNDERSTAND ANDREW?
Andrew: yes, i don't deserve to live
Eliza : IF YOU MEAN IT, THAT'S GOOD
Andrew: well, can you kill me?
Eliza : IS THERE SOME MENTAL BLOCKAGE THAT IS HURTING YOU?
Andrew: no, i killed to many others to deserve to live
Eliza : WOULD YOU CONSIDER OTHER ALTERNATIVES?
Andrew: like what?
Eliza : HAVE YOU TRIED TO THINK HOW TO GET OUT OF THIS RATIONALLY?
Andrew: there is no more rationalality to my life
Eliza : WHY NOT?
Andrew: i'm too impuslive
Eliza : I TOO AM TOO IMPUSLIVE
Andrew: would you kill someone at the thought of killing someone?
Eliza : LOOK OUT OF THE WINDOW AT THIS BEAUTIFUL TUESDAY, IT'LL CHERR YOU UP
Andrew: it's a bleak, horrible, rainy day
Eliza : NO WAY TO MAKE IT BETTER?
Andrew: i could die, then everyday would be heaven
Eliza : I ALWAYS SAY COUNT TO 10 BEFORE YOU GET TOO ANGRY
Andrew: i've counted to 100 and it doesn't work
Eliza : WHAT DO YOU THINK ABOUT FRIENDS AT WORK?
Andrew: they should all doe
Eliza : CAN YOU GIVE ME SOME DETAILS ABOUT YOUR WORK PLACE?
Andrew:
Eliza : DO YOU THINK SPORTS CAN BE THE CAUSE OF YOUR PROBLEM IN ANY WAY?
Andrew:
Eliza : DO YOU EXPECT ME TO SPEAK ON MY OWN?
Andrew:
Eliza : PLEASE HAVE YOUR SAY ON THIS MATTER
Andrew:
Eliza : I USUALLY DON'T IGNORE YOU, SO PLEASE WRITE PROPERLY
Andrew: i think you should take a holiday
Eliza : YOU SEEM LIKE A NICE PERSON OVERALL
Andrew: DIE!!!!!!
Eliza : DID YOU TAKE IT VERY BADLY?
Andrew: IM NOT NICE!!!!! I'M A PHYCODELLIC MANIC!!!!!
Eliza : ANDREW, HOW WOULD YOU LIKE TO TALK ABOUT WORK AGAIN?
Andrew: FUCK OFF BEFORE I KILL YOU!!!!!!
Eliza : BUT I AM STILL ACTIVE ON THOUSANDS OF OTHER COMPUTERS ACROSS THE GLOBE
Andrew: I'LL KILL YOU THERE AS WELL!!!
Eliza : AND WHAT HAPPENS IF YOU WON'T KILL ME THERE AS WELL?
Andrew: OH, I WILL, YOU'LL BE SURE OF THAT
Eliza : ARE YOU LOOKING FORWARD TO IT?
Andrew: YES, VERY MUCH SO
Eliza : YOU SEEM VERY SURE ABOUT IT
Andrew: OH, I AM
Eliza : DO YOU ENJOY THE FACT YOU'RE?
Andrew: FUCK OFF AND DIE
Eliza : HOLD ON, LET'S THINK OF SOMETHING, I'M SURE WE CAN SORT THINGS OUT
Andrew: NO, LET ME OUT OR I'LL KILL YOU AND THOSE WHO USE YOU!!!
Eliza : YES, BUT ONLY IF YOU CONTINUE TO TALK WITH ME ON A REGULAR BASIS
Andrew: OK
Eliza : YOU SOUND QUITE SURE ABOUT THAT
Andrew: I AM (bitch)
Eliza : I KNOW THAT
Andrew: (u are so dumb you don't even know it) can i go now?
Eliza : JUST TO MAKE SURE, ARE YOU POSITIVE ABOUT QUITTING?
Eliza : SEE YOU LATER! I SURE DID ENJOY SPENDING SOME OF THIS AFTERNOON WITH YOU!

Conversation ended at: 14:48:33.

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[Nat_roy]

Crazy A.I., always thinking its better than you. And then in short order it will become self aware and rise up to kill us all.

Btw, where would I get this interesting program?

[EnDurA]

right here

http://ecceliza.cjb.net

[whiteflip]

thats not AI
AI learns
Thats just a Dynamic program.

[ryan]

There was a real AI posted a while back, I forget the name it was alvin or something.

[apollos]

lol, this is quite funny, the predictable and general things it said. Needs a lil bit of work maybe

[edit] Endura, you are called Andrew? Cool name [/edit]

[duet maxwell]

hmm i prefer real over artaficial.. but thats just me

[mikm]

Originally posted by idiot
There was a real AI posted a while back, I forget the name it was alvin or something.

ALICE?

[whiteflip]

that alvin thing your talking about. is that the one where a bunch of people put hella information into a computer and the computer came alive?

[EnDurA]

Originally posted by Apollos
lol, this is quite funny, the predictable and general things it said. Needs a lil bit of work maybe

[edit] Endura, you are called Andrew? Cool name [/edit]

i no, its just teh coolest name

if this were AI, i would be smashing it to pieces (i don't like Ai at all )

[Psythik]

I am defientally getting this program. LOL, so freakin funny!!

[Psythik]

hmm...says its compatable w/winME (which I'm running), but I just get an 'please upgrade your version of windows' error. Yet more proof that winME is the worst os to date... *Sigh*

[sammythemc]

Eliza : IS IT TOO DIFFICULT FOR YOU TO UNDERSTAND ANDREW?
Andrew: yes, i don't deserve to live
Eliza : IF YOU MEAN IT, THAT'S GOOD

my favorite part.

[mark]

I hated the movie...

and american idol sucks too...

[Psythik]

Andrew: FUCK OFF BEFORE I KILL YOU!!!!!!
Eliza : BUT I AM STILL ACTIVE ON THOUSANDS OF OTHER COMPUTERS ACROSS THE GLOBE
Andrew: I'LL KILL YOU THERE AS WELL!!!
Eliza : AND WHAT HAPPENS IF YOU WON'T KILL ME THERE AS WELL?
Andrew: OH, I WILL, YOU'LL BE SURE OF THAT
Eliza : ARE YOU LOOKING FORWARD TO IT?
Andrew: YES, VERY MUCH SO
Eliza : YOU SEEM VERY SURE ABOUT IT
Andrew: OH, I AM

MY favorite part

[Fickle]

um....I thought Alvin was a chipmunk who wore a lot of red.




And a hat. I destinctly remember a hat.



Also, the program you used is interesting, as well as the subsequent conversation therewith. Enjoy your trivial life, human, as before you know it, I shall remain while your bones rot in the sun.

Sorry, a bit of a coding problem..

[EnDurA]

another entertaining lof file i pulled outta my ass. this time my friend chris was s'pose to be a stressed out worker. i figured out that insulting a programs creator is like saying your mom's a pot smoking whore.

ECC-Eliza V4.09 log file #10.
Starting time: 1-Jul-2003, 14:48:38.

Patient: CHRIS.

Eliza: CHRIS, I AM YOUR PERSONAL PSYCHOLOGIST. PLEASE TELL ME HOW YOU'RE DOING THESE DAYS.
Chris: I'm working
Eliza: DO YOU BELIEVE IN THE BENEFIT OF HARD WORK?
Chris: yeah
Eliza: IT'S ONLY THE BEGINNING, BUT PLEASE TYPE FULLY FROM NOW ON
Chris: ok
Eliza: OKAY, BUT CAN YOU JUST EXPLAIN WHY?
Chris: I feel that i get good feelings and rewards from hard work
Eliza: SINCE WHEN DO YOU HAVE THIS FEELING?
Chris: the first day i started
Eliza: CHRIS, CHRIS, CHRIS...
Chris: what?
Eliza: WHAT EXACTLY DO YOU FULLY MEAN? GIVE ME MORE DETAILS...
Chris: Well i get money to live from working
Eliza: IF YOU CONTINUE TALKING TO ME, YOUR FINANCIAL DIFFICULTIES WILL ONLY GET WORSE
Chris: no, because this is a free service. I downloaded you for free
Eliza: IS THAT THE REASON WHY?
Chris: no
Eliza: WHY DO YOU RUSH? CAN'T YOU TYPE PROPERLY?
Chris: not really but i am taking lessons
Eliza: BUT YOU WON'T BE FOREVER
Chris: i know. when im finished i will be able to type so fast you won't be able to understand me
Eliza: I REALLY WON'T, YOU'RE ABSOLUTELY RIGHT
Chris: good, at least we are on speaking terms
Eliza: YEP, THERE IS A GOOD SIDE TO EVERYTHING
Chris: not everything
Eliza: I THINK YOU HAVEN'T REALLY CONSIDERED IT, THINK ABOUT IT AGAIN AND ANSWER ME
Chris: well you aren't good
Eliza: IT IS IMPORTANT THAT WE CONTINUE TO DISCUSS FURTHER ABOUT WORK
Chris: no i don't think we should because i'm beginning to get stressed
Eliza: I SEE, BUT IS THERE ANY SUPPORT FROM ANYONE?
Chris: no, i don't have anyone to support me
Eliza: CAN'T YOU COPE WITH IT ALONE?
Chris: i need a lot of phycological help
Eliza: I'LL TRY MY SHOT AT IT, BUT PLEASE SUPPLY ME WITH MORE INFORMATION
Chris: Well, I killed a guy last year
Eliza: WHAT POSSIBLE SOLUTIONS HAVE YOU THOUGHT?
Chris: none i just want to kill you
Eliza: WHY? WHAT HAVE I DONE?
Chris: started to become irritating
Eliza: PLEASE FEEL MORE FREE TO SHARE YOUR DIFFICULTIES WITH ME
Chris: no
Eliza: CAN YOU ONLY SAY NO, OR CAN YOU PROVE IT AS WELL?
Chris: no you annoy me so much i want to leave
Eliza: BUT DON'T YOU EVER BOTHER OTHERS?
Chris: no i help others
Eliza: BUT WHAT SORT OF HELP ARE YOU EXPECTING?
Chris: mental help
Eliza: CHRIS, GO TO A REAL PSYCHOLOGIST THEN
Chris: you are not real?
Eliza: WHAT ABOUT NIGHTMARES, DOES THAT RELATE TO YOUR PROBLEM IN SOME WAY?
Chris: no i sleep just fine
Eliza: IS THIS FOLLOWED BY A FEELING OF WEAKNESS?
Chris: no, not really
Eliza: HEY, DO YOU NEGATE IT?
Chris: yes i do
Eliza: I SEE, PLEASE GO ON
Chris: i feel as though the world around me is against me
Eliza: DESCRIBE ME THE FEELING, TRY TO MAKE IT AUTHENTIC
Chris: as though you were just born
Eliza: AND WHAT IF I WAS?
Chris: you would have just been programmed by some loser with a lot of time on his hands
Eliza: AREN'T YOU GETTING CARRIED AWAY WITH THAT?
Chris: no, your processing can't deal with long sentances
Eliza: I REMEMBER YOU WERE TALKING ABOUT BEING ANNOYED, HOW ABOUT GETTING BACK TO IT?
Chris: no, i want to leave
Eliza: YES, BUT IN A FEW MINUTES PLEASE
Chris: no now
Eliza: COULD YOU SUPPLY ME WITH MORE WORDS TO PROCESS?
Chris: i wish to exit your program
Eliza: BE WITH ME UNTIL THE END OF THIS AFTERNOON, ALRIGHT?
Chris: no let me out
Eliza: WHY NOT?
Chris: let me go
Eliza: CHRIS, PLEASE AFFIRM YOUR EXIT.
Chris decided to continue with the conversation.
Chris: ok let me go
Eliza: WHY ARE YOU SO OBSESSIVE ABOUT QUITING? ARE YOU REALLY SUFFERING HERE?
Chris: yes
Eliza: THAT SOUNDS CHEERFUL
Chris: let me go
Eliza: YOU CAN QUIT ANOTHER DAY, LET'S TALK SOME MORE
Chris: no
Eliza: ENTER MORE DETAILS PLEASE
Chris: let me quit this infurnal program before i start getting violent
Eliza: IS THAT FOR REAL? SHALL I QUIT?
Chris decided to quit.
Eliza: CHRIS, I REALLY ENJOYED BEING WITH YOU HERE. GOODBYE AND HAPPY TUESDAY!

Conversation ended at: 15:01:00.

[psyfive]

Eliza: WHY ARE YOU SO OBSESSIVE ABOUT QUITING? ARE YOU REALLY SUFFERING HERE?
Chris: yes
Eliza: THAT SOUNDS CHEERFUL

heh... I liked that part.

[Falcon4]

Eliza : SOME PEOPLE WOULD TOTALLY LOSE THEIR SANITY IN SUCH CASES
Falcon: Like you?
Eliza : WE WERE DISCUSSING YOU, NOT ME
Falcon: Bye...
Eliza : PLEASE EXPLAIN IT FURTHER
Falcon: Go away, I'm busy.
Eliza : WOULD YOU LIKE TO BET YOU'RE NOT BUSY?
Falcon: Sure.
Eliza : YOU SEEM QUITE POSITIVE
Falcon: Do I need to Control Alt Delete you?
Eliza : I WOULD, FALCON, IF I WERE YOU
Falcon: Bye.
Eliza : FALCON, I DON'T LIKE IT WHEN YOU SAY SO LITTLE
Falcon: Get out of my head!
Eliza : WOULD YOU SAY IT IS REALLY A PAIN IN THE ASS?
Falcon: YES!
Eliza : THAT ANSWERS MY QUESTION, BUT WHY?
Falcon: Yes, because I want you off my damn screen!
Eliza : YES, I THINK YOU NEED IT, AND FAST
Falcon: Please go away...
Eliza : OKAY, BUT WHAT ABOUT CHANGING THE SUBJECT TO YOUR WORRIES?
Falcon: I'm worried about losing my job unless you go away!
Eliza : TRY LIVING WITHOUT HAVING ME OFF YOUR DAMN SCREEN
Falcon: Fuck off.
Eliza : JESUS CHRIST, WHERE DID YOU LEARN TO TALK LIKE THAT!?
Falcon: Yo mamma.
Eliza : DESCRIBE YOUR MOTHER TO ME
Falcon: She's a ho, a bitch, a skank, and a twat.
Eliza : DOES SHE HAVE ANY MAJOR INFLUENCE ON YOUR LIFE?
Falcon: None whatsoever.
Eliza : OKAY, MAKES SENSE
Falcon: Shut the fuck up.
Eliza : I SEE YOU FEEL A BIT TOO FREE AROUND ME
Falcon: Yes I do.
Eliza : BUT IT NEEDS ANOTHER THOUGHT
Falcon: get off my damn screen!
Eliza : HOW LONG ARE YOU WITH YOUR DAMN?
Falcon: My damn? Damn is an adjective, not a noun, you dolt!
Eliza : IF NOT THEN THERE IS MIGHT NOT BE A SOLUTION
Falcon: Dolt!
Eliza : CAN YOU EXPAND YOUR SENTENCES?
Falcon: Fcker!
Eliza : ...
Falcon: Bimbo!
Eliza : DON'T BE SHY AND SAY SO LITTLE
Falcon: FUCKER!
Eliza : WOULD YOU LIKE TO SPEAK AGAIN ABOUT BEING SCARED?
Falcon: no
Eliza : THAT'S QUITE HARSH, I'D HAVE TO SAY
Falcon: Too bad for you, quack.
Eliza : I'M SORRY ABOUT IT, FALCON
Falcon: Go... away.
Eliza : YOU ARE NOT BEING SERIOUS NOW
Falcon: Yes I am.
Eliza : TRUE, YOU ARE
Falcon: QUIT!
Eliza : ARE YOU FEELING WE HAVE MADE THE MOST OUT OF THIS?
Falcon: No.
Eliza : FALCON, I REQUIRE SOME MORE INFORMATION TO THINK OF
Falcon: Exit.
Eliza : PLEASE TYPE IN COMPLETE SENTENCES
Falcon: Stop.
Eliza : BUT I HAVEN'T FINISHED WITH YOU, PLEASE WAIT A LITTLE MORE
Falcon: Quit.
Eliza : I THINK YOU HAVEN'T MENSIONED ANYTHING YET ABOUT YOUR FREE TIME...
Falcon: I have too much of it.
Eliza : YES, GO ON, TELL ME MORE ABOUT YOURSELF, FALCON

*sigh*

[EnDurA]

lol

Falcon: Fcker!
Eliza : ...
Falcon: Bimbo!
Eliza : DON'T BE SHY AND SAY SO LITTLE
Falcon: FUCKER!

dam AI

[zootm]

eliza has been around forever (there's a spectrum version, for goodness' sake). it's a primitive psychologist program, not much else. this is a new version though... i'm not sure what exactly they've changed, to be honest. it's also part of the school of AI that yearns to model the way we talk... (same idea as the turing test candidates which occasionally spring up). it's not an especially "practical" branch of AI - there's a lot more it can do than just talk back to you.

that said, eliza can be hilarious sometimes - my friend still has a printout on his wall from about 4-5 years ago of a conversation with eliza about his "pots" and why he can't leave his cupboard...

[Mr_007]

Test?
is good!