Setting Up SHOUTcast and NSV Live Capture To Stream Webcam

Jeeper One · 8th July 2003, 05:49

Hi everyone:

I know this has probably been brought up before, but I'll ask it again...

It has come to my attention that my cam page at http://kpdcnetradio.***********/webcam.html can only be received by those with broadband connections (as it's optimized for a large screen and CD quality audio output using iVista as my cam software), however what I'd like to do is use NSV Live Capture and my SHOUTcast Server to provide a "Low-Fi" version of my cam page (or at least an external stream).

Problem is my cam (and apparently the iVista software as well) utilizes the Microsoft WDM Image Capture Driver. What I'd like to do is download and install a WDM-emulator which NSV Live Capture will recognize and use that for NSV Live Capture, thus giving me an extra driver to work with to stream my cam via NSV. Would this work or not?? If so, where's a good RELIABLE, REPUTABLE & SAFE site (i.e. NO CRACK SITES) to download these types of drivers??

Also, I will need to reconfigure my SHOUTcast Server whereas it can support multiple port streaming (this is so that my radio station is only affected by the loss of listeners which would be re-allocated for NSV use). Where do I make this/these change(s)?? I know it's somewhere in the CONFIG file, but I don't quite know just where or how (i.e. what keys to use on the keyboard to command the server to allow the usage of more than one port for streaming).

As for embedding my cam image into the a webpage, I can always use the source code which is used on the Nullsoft Public Access Website and make the neccessary corrections from there (or borrow the code from someone else's NSV-based cam page). :-)

In any case, I look forward to any replies there may be. :-)

Cheers for now :-)

Patrick Cook
Proud Member - Electronic Frontier Foundation - http://www.eff.org/
Program Director
Jeeper One Radio Network
KPDC Internet TV - REAL Web TV
kpdcnetradio@msn.com
kpdcnettv@attbi.com
pchamster@msn.com
Denver, Colorado
http://kpdcnetradio.***********/
http://kpdcnettv.***********/
NEW WEBCAM PAGES - KPDC Internet Radio - http://kpdcnetradio.***********/webcam.html KPDC Internet TV - http://kpdcnettv.***********/webcam.html

8th July 2003, 06:08

I am not sure abpout the NSVcap GUI tool, but you can use the nsvenc command line tool to capture with Video For Windows. For basic useage of the command line tool try the Streaming Video with NSV tutorial. Instead of using the cap:0,0 parameter replace it with vfwcap:0. Microsoft WDM Image Capture (Win32) should be device 0, but if you just use vfwcap: it will give you a list to choose from. Therefore no extra software should be required.

Now about the sever. Not exactly sure what you are asking to do. But looks like you want to set up another server so you can serve an audio SHOUTcast stream plus a NSV Stream. This cannot be done with one server instance. You will have to use two. This can be accomplished by creating another .ini configuration file and starting the server with it. For information on how to do that try reading the first half of Multi-bitrate Streams.

Once you do that you can adjust your MaxUser number in the config files to match how much bandwidth you want to give to each stream. Figure out your total bandwidth and how much of that you want to go to the audio only stream and video stream. Use the - CasterClub's Listener Calculator to then calculate what to set the MaxUser number to for each stream.

Jeeper One · 8th July 2003, 07:08

Hi everyone:

Quote:

Originally posted by Sawg
I am not sure abpout the NSVcap GUI tool, but you can use the nsvenc command line tool to capture with Video For Windows. For basic useage of the command line tool try the Streaming Video with NSV tutorial. Instead of using the cap:0,0 parameter replace it with vfwcap:0. Microsoft WDM Image Capture (Win32) should be device 0, but if you just use vfwcap: it will give you a list to choose from. Therefore no extra software should be required.

I'm just BARELY figuring out how to encode NSV from AVI and MPEG using the current tools (It appears I'm getting closer), so command line tools would be out for a LIVE stream.

What I'm looking for is a driver which I can select from within NSVcap which will allow me to stream my webcam via NSV (my cam is a Micro Webcam BTW and it DOES NOT come with its own set of drivers. If it did, I probably wouldn't be posting this. :-)).

It should also be noted that I want to use iVista for my existing broadband cam stream since it's FAR more stable than NSV at broadband bitrates is. I'll just simply make that page webcam2.html for something along those lines. :-)

Quote:

Now about the sever. Not exactly sure what you are asking to do. But looks like you want to set up another server so you can serve an audio SHOUTcast stream plus a NSV Stream.

That would be correct. :-)

Quote:

This cannot be done with one server instance. You will have to use two. This can be accomplished by creating another .ini configuration file and starting the server with it.

Ahh yes....I thought I seemingly saw something in the docs about that. This is no problem. :-)

Quote:

For information on how to do that try reading the first half of Multi-bitrate Streams.

Once you do that you can adjust your MaxUser number in the config files to match how much bandwidth you want to give to each stream. Figure out your total bandwidth and how much of that you want to go to the audio only stream and video stream. Use the - CasterClub's Listener Calculator to then calculate what to set the MaxUser number to for each stream.

Well....since Jeeper One Radio only gets about half the concurrent listeners the server is currently allocated, I should think that a 50/50 split is in order. :-)

But first things first....GETTING AN EMULATOR. :-)

Cheers for now :-)

Patrick Cook
Proud Member - Electronic Frontier Foundation - http://www.eff.org/
Program Director
Jeeper One Radio Network
KPDC Internet TV - REAL Web TV
kpdcnetradio@msn.com
kpdcnettv@attbi.com
pchamster@msn.com
Denver, Colorado
http://kpdcnetradio.***********/
http://kpdcnettv.***********/
NEW WEBCAM PAGES - KPDC Internet Radio - http://kpdcnetradio.***********/webcam.html KPDC Internet TV - http://kpdcnettv.***********/webcam.html

Jeeper One · 8th July 2003, 08:47

Hi everyone:

One small problem....

I tried creating a sc_serv2.ini file using 8040 as the Port No. HOWEVER the SHOUTcast DNAS doesn't even see this file (either with one istance or with two). I tried the tutorial above and it was useless.

All I get when I try running a second instance is the FATAL ERROR message indicating that some other process is using the same port.

I saved the ini file in THE SAME directory as the server installation and everything. I even double and triple-checked to see if I had everything right in NSVcap. It was. Was able to capture frames, but they went nowhere.

See....THIS is why you need to create a server that's SPECIFIC (if not NATIVE) to NSV. This CANNOT be some "command line" tool. Relying on the SHOUTcast Server to stream video is like putting the cart BEFORE the horse.

This should NEVER happen!!

Anyway....I'm going back to my old cam software (and plan to stick with it for awhile) as I just see a whole lot of hope in NSV right now (unless I'm able to get some videos encoded properly - With MY expertise - yeah right - but I'll keep trying as it's a good cure for boredom).

NSV is still A LONG ways away from being called 1.0 IMO. :-(

Cheers for now :-)

Patrick Cook
Proud Member - Electronic Frontier Foundation - http://www.eff.org/
Program Director
Jeeper One Radio Network
KPDC Internet TV - REAL Web TV
kpdcnetradio@msn.com
kpdcnettv@attbi.com
pchamster@msn.com
Denver, Colorado
http://kpdcnetradio.***********/
http://kpdcnettv.***********/
NEW WEBCAM PAGES - KPDC Internet Radio - http://kpdcnetradio.***********/webcam.html KPDC Internet TV - http://kpdcnettv.***********/webcam.html

8th July 2003, 09:18

You have to start the server using the ini file in the command line. As described in the tutorial.

NSV is still very beta and in development. It's not for the weak or novices. If you don't understand command line tools you should just stay away for a while.

There is no need for a NSV specific server. The SHOUTcast server works perfectly fine. If you personally cannot figure out, then you personally should not be using beta software.

8th July 2003, 05:49	#1
Jeeper One Major Dude Join Date: May 2003 Location: Denver, Colorado Posts: 1,054	Setting Up SHOUTcast and NSV Live Capture To Stream Webcam Hi everyone: I know this has probably been brought up before, but I'll ask it again... It has come to my attention that my cam page at http://kpdcnetradio.*********/webcam.html can only be received by those with broadband connections (as it's optimized for a large screen and CD quality audio output using iVista as my cam software), however what I'd like to do is use NSV Live Capture and my SHOUTcast Server to provide a "Low-Fi" version of my cam page (or at least an external stream). Problem is my cam (and apparently the iVista software as well) utilizes the Microsoft WDM Image Capture Driver. What I'd like to do is download and install a WDM-emulator which NSV Live Capture will recognize and use that for NSV Live Capture, thus giving me an extra driver to work with to stream my cam via NSV. Would this work or not?? If so, where's a good RELIABLE, REPUTABLE & SAFE site (i.e. NO CRACK SITES) to download these types of drivers?? Also, I will need to reconfigure my SHOUTcast Server whereas it can support multiple port streaming (this is so that my radio station is only affected by the loss of listeners which would be re-allocated for NSV use). Where do I make this/these change(s)?? I know it's somewhere in the CONFIG file, but I don't quite know just where or how (i.e. what keys to use on the keyboard to command the server to allow the usage of more than one port for streaming). As for embedding my cam image into the a webpage, I can always use the source code which is used on the Nullsoft Public Access Website and make the neccessary corrections from there (or borrow the code from someone else's NSV-based cam page). :-) In any case, I look forward to any replies there may be. :-) Cheers for now :-) Patrick Cook Proud Member - Electronic Frontier Foundation - http://www.eff.org/ Program Director Jeeper One Radio Network KPDC Internet TV - REAL Web TV kpdcnetradio@msn.com kpdcnettv@attbi.com pchamster@msn.com Denver, Colorado http://kpdcnetradio.*******/ http://kpdcnettv.*******/ NEW WEBCAM PAGES - KPDC Internet Radio - http://kpdcnetradio.*******/webcam.html KPDC Internet TV - http://kpdcnettv.*********/webcam.html

8th July 2003, 08:47	#4
Jeeper One Major Dude Join Date: May 2003 Location: Denver, Colorado Posts: 1,054	Hi everyone: One small problem.... I tried creating a sc_serv2.ini file using 8040 as the Port No. HOWEVER the SHOUTcast DNAS doesn't even see this file (either with one istance or with two). I tried the tutorial above and it was useless. All I get when I try running a second instance is the FATAL ERROR message indicating that some other process is using the same port. I saved the ini file in THE SAME directory as the server installation and everything. I even double and triple-checked to see if I had everything right in NSVcap. It was. Was able to capture frames, but they went nowhere. See....THIS is why you need to create a server that's SPECIFIC (if not NATIVE) to NSV. This CANNOT be some "command line" tool. Relying on the SHOUTcast Server to stream video is like putting the cart BEFORE the horse. This should NEVER happen!! Anyway....I'm going back to my old cam software (and plan to stick with it for awhile) as I just see a whole lot of hope in NSV right now (unless I'm able to get some videos encoded properly - With MY expertise - yeah right - but I'll keep trying as it's a good cure for boredom). NSV is still A LONG ways away from being called 1.0 IMO. :-( Cheers for now :-) Patrick Cook Proud Member - Electronic Frontier Foundation - http://www.eff.org/ Program Director Jeeper One Radio Network KPDC Internet TV - REAL Web TV kpdcnetradio@msn.com kpdcnettv@attbi.com pchamster@msn.com Denver, Colorado http://kpdcnetradio.*********/ http://kpdcnettv.*******/ NEW WEBCAM PAGES - KPDC Internet Radio - http://kpdcnetradio.*******/webcam.html KPDC Internet TV - http://kpdcnettv.*******/webcam.html Pat Cook WSO-AM Soap Opera Radio** (Currently On The SHOUTcast YP But Website Coming Soon) Englewood, CO

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8th July 2003, 06:08	#2
Sawg Guest Posts: n/a	I am not sure abpout the NSVcap GUI tool, but you can use the nsvenc command line tool to capture with Video For Windows. For basic useage of the command line tool try the Streaming Video with NSV tutorial. Instead of using the cap:0,0 parameter replace it with vfwcap:0. Microsoft WDM Image Capture (Win32) should be device 0, but if you just use vfwcap: it will give you a list to choose from. Therefore no extra software should be required. Now about the sever. Not exactly sure what you are asking to do. But looks like you want to set up another server so you can serve an audio SHOUTcast stream plus a NSV Stream. This cannot be done with one server instance. You will have to use two. This can be accomplished by creating another .ini configuration file and starting the server with it. For information on how to do that try reading the first half of Multi-bitrate Streams. Once you do that you can adjust your MaxUser number in the config files to match how much bandwidth you want to give to each stream. Figure out your total bandwidth and how much of that you want to go to the audio only stream and video stream. Use the - CasterClub's Listener Calculator to then calculate what to set the MaxUser number to for each stream.

8th July 2003, 09:18	#5
Sawg Guest Posts: n/a	You have to start the server using the ini file in the command line. As described in the tutorial. NSV is still very beta and in development. It's not for the weak or novices. If you don't understand command line tools you should just stay away for a while. There is no need for a NSV specific server. The SHOUTcast server works perfectly fine. If you personally cannot figure out, then you personally should not be using beta software.