Millionaire Artists: Like them or loave them?

Cylob · 14th July 2003, 21:59

I don't care how good you are, you shouldn't be able to make millions from music. People like Michael Jackson & Madonna set themselves up as god-like. Sure they have some talent, but everyone's talented in their own right.

It's like idol worship - we're all still pagans.

Namelessv1 · 14th July 2003, 22:54

Well, as long as they stay down to earth, I've got no problem with an artist making a crapload of money. When they start taking a holier-than-thou attitude towards the rest of the world, they deserved to be mugged.

ShyShy · 14th July 2003, 23:03

when it's talent-less "artists" (insert brittney) making millions then i have issues.

Namelessv1 · 14th July 2003, 23:12

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Originally posted by ShyShy
when it's talent-less "artists" (insert brittney) making millions then i have issues.

That's not really making money, that's robbing people who don't know any better.

ShyShy · 15th July 2003, 00:56

amen, dawg, amen

Pixelcraft · 15th July 2003, 03:41

I think we should give them a chance because if they have real talent, and don't "flaunt it" or set a bad role model in the way they act or dress for millions of kids, they should deserve to be respected.

Mattress · 15th July 2003, 03:55

I don't have a problem with artists making millions, why shouldn't they be able to make millions of dollars as musicians? Why should a chosen profession determine a maximum amount of money you're allowed to make, if you're at the top of your profession why shouldn't you make boatloads of cash?

ShyShy · 15th July 2003, 04:05

hey, i'm the best damn office slave around... "show me the money!!!"

Cylob · 15th July 2003, 05:40

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Originally posted by ShyShy
hey, i'm the best damn office slave around... "show me the money!!!"

That's my sentiment. Madonna probably earns more in a day than I'll earn in my entire life. It really makes you feel worth something.

I refuse to participate in it.

Mr_007 · 15th July 2003, 08:12

My is lover Micheal jackson!

Xerxes · 15th July 2003, 08:29

Why should it matter that Artists make money for their work? That should only disturb you if your artist preaches anarchy, disorder, and destruction while living in a Malibu Palatial Chateau.

Punk Music.

Mr Jones · 15th July 2003, 08:41

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Originally posted by Mr_007
My is lover Micheal jackson!

I'd keep that fact very very quiet if I were you

Mr_007 · 15th July 2003, 09:12

Thanks Mr jones!

Fickle · 16th July 2003, 05:56

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Millionaire Artists: Like them or loave them?

Loave....like bread loaves? ROFLMAO. I think you were looking for loathe, but hey, yours is soo much better. Fer real.

bread is sooo cool. Soo is Mr. 007.

But anyway.

I go along the lines of Stephen King. (horror writer, I know, but hold on, I'll get to the point)

When he released "Riding the Bullet" on-line, there was a ton of fanfare over the world about how print is dead and Stephen King is on the cutting edge and blah-de-blah-de-blah. He also made an "embarrasing" amount of money.

What bothered him was that nobody cared about the story. Everybody was so concerned about how cutting-edge he was that nobody bothered to even notice that it's actually pretty fucking good.
He say's in his book Everything's Eventual that he would never like to compare the number of people who downloaded the story vs the number of people who actually read it. He thinks he'd be greatly disappointed.

I think that's the way music should be. Make music for the music sake. Make money by making music, don't make music to make money.

Cylob · 16th July 2003, 15:27

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Originally posted by Fickle
Make money by making music, don't make music to make money.

Cue round of applause.

Xerxes · 19th July 2003, 08:01

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Originally posted by Mr_007
Thanks Mr jones!

That little exchange should be a cause to have this thread bronzed and placed in a museum.

Bilbo Baggins · 19th July 2003, 08:28

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Originally posted by Cylob

It's like idol worship - we're all still pagans.

Pretty much every religion features idol worship...

If you are good enough, then the sky is the limit. Why shouldn't musicians be able to become millionaires off their talents? Thats like saying people with talent should show us everything they can do, but not expect to get rich off it.

Cylob · 19th July 2003, 10:06

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Originally posted by Bilbo Baggins
Pretty much every religion features idol worship...

Your average atheist is an idol worshipper - only the pagan gods these days are pop/film stars. I just find it annoying when people like Celine Dion become super-rich for throwing-out a few crap old songs.

I accept people should be able to earn any amount, but to be honest I find it a bit irritating. Super-rich artists who flaunt their dosh give the whole industry a bad name.

Going back to Fickle's quote:
Make money by making music, don't make music to make money.

Mr_007 · 19th July 2003, 10:22

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Originally posted by Xerxes
That little exchange should be a cause to have this thread bronzed and placed in a museum.

Ok Xerexes!

Of course my carefull posting!

Merlin · 19th July 2003, 16:42

I've no problem with people earning money for making music. It's a good job to have.

Xerxes · 19th July 2003, 22:41

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Originally posted by Cylob
Super-rich artists who flaunt their dosh give the whole industry a bad name.

You know the state of music is truly ill when entire genres (Rap) are nearly built on that concept.

Mattress · 20th July 2003, 04:47

Not all rap is like that, I have a friend who is big into philosophy and he also raps and MCs at different venues and he raps about God and theology and philosophy and stuff, he's really good too.

Fickle · 20th July 2003, 06:27

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Originally posted by Merlin
I've no problem with people earning money for making music. It's a good job to have.

Nor do I. I have a problem when people create themselves around making money. Music is an art, it should be made for purely selfish reasons, as in it should be made to make a person happy, not to rake in the dough. Modern music is shallow and without real content, there is no innovativness, only repeated loops and overdubbing and $$, $$ and more $$.

Merlin · 20th July 2003, 15:29

There was that girl who won Popstars, then quit the 'band' a year later giving this reason: "I've made my million (£) so I'm leaving". It was just so wrong.

Now - presumably having realised the money won't last for ever - she's trying to make a comeback as a solo 'artist'. She can hardly sing.

Don't lump all modern music into the same box though. There's a lot of underplayed but innovative and different sounds out there. Radio1 does a great job of promoting this stuff. I've heard bands like Athlete, The Music, Aqualung, Doves, Royksopp a lot more on Radio1 than on any other station.

Cylob · 20th July 2003, 17:44

I can never go back to Radio 1 - it pretty much committed suicide (and took half the UK music industry with it). The Radio 1 headquarters should be a 200ft tall hairy ass, with the studios being lodged firmly in the hole (where they belong).

Mr_007 · 31st July 2003, 16:53

How millioner artist is good?

14th July 2003, 21:59	#1
Cylob Forum Music King (Forum King) Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: The Future Posts: 7,175	Millionaire Artists: Like them or loave them? I don't care how good you are, you shouldn't be able to make millions from music. People like Michael Jackson & Madonna set themselves up as god-like. Sure they have some talent, but everyone's talented in their own right. It's like idol worship - we're all still pagans. Secret Snacker & Accomplished Pen Thief At:

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Pixelcraft Wildly Confused (Major Dude) Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Minnesota Posts: 1,204	I think we should give them a chance because if they have real talent, and don't "flaunt it" or set a bad role model in the way they act or dress for millions of kids, they should deserve to be respected. "It's like saying give a man a Les Paul guitar and he becomes Eric Clapton, and of course that's not true, give a man an amplifier and a synthesizer and he doesn't become...whoever; he doesn't become us." - Roger Waters

15th July 2003, 03:55	#7
Mattress Forum King Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Milwaukee Posts: 4,577	I don't have a problem with artists making millions, why shouldn't they be able to make millions of dollars as musicians? Why should a chosen profession determine a maximum amount of money you're allowed to make, if you're at the top of your profession why shouldn't you make boatloads of cash? Besides shooting out a big blank from your buttock, you can feel as if your root chakra leaked sweet hot mucus.

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Merlin ¯¯¯¯¯¯¯ (Forum King) Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Manchester Posts: 4,209	I've no problem with people earning money for making music. It's a good job to have. as he faced the sun, he cast no shadow __________________

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Mattress Forum King Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Milwaukee Posts: 4,577	Not all rap is like that, I have a friend who is big into philosophy and he also raps and MCs at different venues and he raps about God and theology and philosophy and stuff, he's really good too. Besides shooting out a big blank from your buttock, you can feel as if your root chakra leaked sweet hot mucus.

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Namelessv1 Forum King Join Date: Nov 2000 Posts: 4,757	Well, as long as they stay down to earth, I've got no problem with an artist making a crapload of money. When they start taking a holier-than-thou attitude towards the rest of the world, they deserved to be mugged.

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ShyShy Amazon Bush Woman Forum Queen Join Date: May 2003 Location: The Sticks, Queensland Posts: 8,066	when it's talent-less "artists" (insert brittney) making millions then i have issues.

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ShyShy Amazon Bush Woman Forum Queen Join Date: May 2003 Location: The Sticks, Queensland Posts: 8,066	amen, dawg, amen

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ShyShy Amazon Bush Woman Forum Queen Join Date: May 2003 Location: The Sticks, Queensland Posts: 8,066	hey, i'm the best damn office slave around... "show me the money!!!"

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Mr_007 Banned Join Date: Feb 2003 Posts: 2,838	My is lover Micheal jackson!

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Xerxes Capitalist Alumni Join Date: May 2000 Location: my 4 Houses on Park Place Posts: 8,688	Why should it matter that Artists make money for their work? That should only disturb you if your artist preaches anarchy, disorder, and destruction while living in a Malibu Palatial Chateau. Punk Music.

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Mr_007 Banned Join Date: Feb 2003 Posts: 2,838	Thanks Mr jones!

20th July 2003, 15:29	#24
Merlin ¯¯¯¯¯¯¯ (Forum King) Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Manchester Posts: 4,209	There was that girl who won Popstars, then quit the 'band' a year later giving this reason: "I've made my million (£) so I'm leaving". It was just so wrong. Now - presumably having realised the money won't last for ever - she's trying to make a comeback as a solo 'artist'. She can hardly sing. Don't lump all modern music into the same box though. There's a lot of underplayed but innovative and different sounds out there. Radio1 does a great job of promoting this stuff. I've heard bands like Athlete, The Music, Aqualung, Doves, Royksopp a lot more on Radio1 than on any other station. as he faced the sun, he cast no shadow __________________

20th July 2003, 17:44	#25
Cylob Forum Music King (Forum King) Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: The Future Posts: 7,175	I can never go back to Radio 1 - it pretty much committed suicide (and took half the UK music industry with it). The Radio 1 headquarters should be a 200ft tall hairy ass, with the studios being lodged firmly in the hole (where they belong). Secret Snacker & Accomplished Pen Thief At:

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Mr_007 Banned Join Date: Feb 2003 Posts: 2,838	How millioner artist is good?

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