Switching

Raz · 29th July 2003, 01:37

Yay, i got it right. I made a tunnel preset that switches between being, a cirlcle, a square, a triangle, a hexagon and a two planes.

mikm · 29th July 2003, 01:41

sweet!
sometimes the fog is too bright though.
If there is a heavy beat, it will spend too much time looking at the walls. Slow down the camera mvt and add a custom beat to skip 1 or 2 beats.

anubis2003 · 29th July 2003, 01:42

I just finished reviewing some presets submitted here - ugh. I need a good lift in quality of presets.
/me crosses my fingers

Not the greatest(would be much better if the switch was smooth - kinda like how UCD did it in one of his presets), but it's nice. Keep up the good work Raz.

Jaak · 29th July 2003, 09:26

Really sweet.
Yes it'sa kinda annoying that the shape like jumps, it would be perfect with smooth switching. But this might be hard thing to do.

Raz · 29th July 2003, 10:53

It would be an entirely different thing. This calculates each shape individually and randomly switches between them.

UnConeD · 29th July 2003, 14:46

Actually because of your unified texture mapping, it's dead-easy...

Changed:
- Smooth switching
- Aspect-ratio correction
- Fair shape selection
- Tweaked fog
- Tweaked rotation (so it looks at the tunnel ends more often)
- Reduced rotation intensity

Akuso · 29th July 2003, 16:49

it crashes winamp everytime

[Ishan] · 29th July 2003, 16:58

I dont like the texture but the DM is nice.

Jaak · 29th July 2003, 16:58

This is perfect

UnConeD · 29th July 2003, 18:44

Akuso: perhaps you have an old Colormap... get the latest (v1.2.1 at the moment).

Pixelcraft · 29th July 2003, 19:19

Pretty nice! Raz, the original was way too fast for me...

Raz · 29th July 2003, 20:06

Oh man. Is this ever sweet. Thanks UCD.

dirkdeftly · 30th July 2003, 00:09

your switching algorithm has the same flaw as colormap - it jumps if it changes too soon. (not that you could feasibly do that with colormap, too much of a slowdown (that BETTER damn well be why, cos there's no other good excuse).) i've got mixed feelings about the texture...you can't tell it's switched until you see the ends of the tunnel, and that is both a good and a bad thing. on one hand, you're spinning around and all of a sudden, without your knowledge, your surroundings have changed. on the other hand, it doesn't show off the dm very well, and that's the center of this preset. i think slowing down/smoothing out the rotation might help, but i'm not sure...

anubis2003 · 30th July 2003, 00:15

That's an awesome tweak unconed.

Like atero said - you can't see the switch until you see the ends. The texture could use a change.

Raz · 30th July 2003, 11:22

The texture's just there so it's got a texture to begin with. I always use the mosaic'd grain and a colourmap to start with, it just displays how the textures been done in the DM well.

I've deciphered the tweak now after finally getting some sleep. That is some damn nice tweaking. I'll have to use that technique again.

Tuggummi · 30th July 2003, 17:25

Wow, UnConeD's Tweak is amazing. Sorry Raz, didn't check out the original

Im sure it's nice tho, but that smooth changing... *drools*

Raz · 30th July 2003, 18:51

It was basically just that, but without the smooth changing.

dirkdeftly · 30th July 2003, 22:03

i can't see it changing smoothly because it changes too fast...

my morphing code is better

UnConeD · 31st July 2003, 00:22

Hmm Atero I don't know what preset you're watching, but it should contain the following code in onbeat:

x=equal(ip,1);y=rand(5);
lc1=if(x,c1,lc1);lc2=if(x,c2,lc2);lc3=if(x,c3,lc3);lc4=if(x,c4,lc4);lc5=if(x,c5,lc5);
c1=if(x,equal(y,0),c1);c2=if(x,equal(y,1),c2);c3=if(x,equal(y,2),c3);c4=if(x,equal(y,3),c4);

I.e. only if the previous transition (governed by 'ip') has completed will it switch to the next one. Try putting a 300BPM custom bpm in front, it still switches smoothly here.

dirkdeftly · 31st July 2003, 00:30

ups. loaded the wrong one i guess. >_<
my morphing code is still cooler

Mr_007 · 31st July 2003, 11:45

Bad perest!

Akuso · 31st July 2003, 17:59

you tell them, Mr_007!

Raz · 31st July 2003, 18:01

Yeah, the persest is probably bad.

The preset however is great.

unripeLemon · 2nd August 2003, 12:54

ahhhhhh! thats really nice raz. I was in italy so I couldn't comment sooner. Good work

wow

S-uper_T-oast · 3rd August 2003, 02:25

mmmm... I like the smooth switching, it makes the preset look 10X better.

29th July 2003, 01:41	#2
mikm Major Dude Join Date: May 2001 Location: somewhere else Posts: 1,286	sweet! sometimes the fog is too bright though. If there is a heavy beat, it will spend too much time looking at the walls. Slow down the camera mvt and add a custom beat to skip 1 or 2 beats. powered by C₈H₁₀N₄O₂

29th July 2003, 01:42	#3
anubis2003 Forum King Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: middle of somewhere Posts: 5,564	I just finished reviewing some presets submitted here - ugh. I need a good lift in quality of presets. /me crosses my fingers Not the greatest(would be much better if the switch was smooth - kinda like how UCD did it in one of his presets), but it's nice. Keep up the good work Raz. [Over The Monkey] \| [My DeviantArt] \| [Se ti] \| [Atmo Digital Design Forums]

29th July 2003, 09:26	#4
Jaak Major Dude Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Estonia. Posts: 851	Really sweet. Yes it'sa kinda annoying that the shape like jumps, it would be perfect with smooth switching. But this might be hard thing to do. Phi = (1+sqrt(5))/2

29th July 2003, 16:58	#8
[Ishan] Major Dude Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: India Posts: 1,156	I dont like the texture but the DM is nice. Amateur AVS'er. All over again. Last AVS Pack : Resurgence

29th July 2003, 16:58	#9
Jaak Major Dude Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Estonia. Posts: 851	This is perfect Phi = (1+sqrt(5))/2

29th July 2003, 10:53	#5
Raz Forum King Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Manchester Posts: 6,470	It would be an entirely different thing. This calculates each shape individually and randomly switches between them.

29th July 2003, 16:49	#7
Akuso Member Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: North Carolina Posts: 83	it crashes winamp everytime

29th July 2003, 18:44	#10
UnConeD Whacked Moderator Join Date: Jun 2001 Posts: 2,104	Akuso: perhaps you have an old Colormap... get the latest (v1.2.1 at the moment).

29th July 2003, 19:19	#11
Pixelcraft Wildly Confused (Major Dude) Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Minnesota Posts: 1,204	Pretty nice! Raz, the original was way too fast for me... "It's like saying give a man a Les Paul guitar and he becomes Eric Clapton, and of course that's not true, give a man an amplifier and a synthesizer and he doesn't become...whoever; he doesn't become us." - Roger Waters

29th July 2003, 20:06	#12
Raz Forum King Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Manchester Posts: 6,470	Oh man. Is this ever sweet. Thanks UCD.

30th July 2003, 00:09	#13
dirkdeftly Forum King Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Cydonia, Mars Posts: 2,651	your switching algorithm has the same flaw as colormap - it jumps if it changes too soon. (not that you could feasibly do that with colormap, too much of a slowdown (that BETTER damn well be why, cos there's no other good excuse).) i've got mixed feelings about the texture...you can't tell it's switched until you see the ends of the tunnel, and that is both a good and a bad thing. on one hand, you're spinning around and all of a sudden, without your knowledge, your surroundings have changed. on the other hand, it doesn't show off the dm very well, and that's the center of this preset. i think slowing down/smoothing out the rotation might help, but i'm not sure... "guilt is the cause of more disauders than history's most obscene marorders" --E. E. Cummings

30th July 2003, 00:15	#14
anubis2003 Forum King Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: middle of somewhere Posts: 5,564	That's an awesome tweak unconed. Like atero said - you can't see the switch until you see the ends. The texture could use a change. [Over The Monkey] \| [My DeviantArt] \| [Se ti] \| [Atmo Digital Design Forums]

30th July 2003, 11:22	#15
Raz Forum King Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Manchester Posts: 6,470	The texture's just there so it's got a texture to begin with. I always use the mosaic'd grain and a colourmap to start with, it just displays how the textures been done in the DM well. I've deciphered the tweak now after finally getting some sleep. That is some damn nice tweaking. I'll have to use that technique again.

30th July 2003, 17:25	#16
Tuggummi Bin King Join Date: Mar 2001 Location: Finland Posts: 2,179	Wow, UnConeD's Tweak is amazing. Sorry Raz, didn't check out the original Im sure it's nice tho, but that smooth changing... drools Texer Resources Im retarded... err i mean retired! Probably both...

30th July 2003, 18:51	#17
Raz Forum King Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Manchester Posts: 6,470	It was basically just that, but without the smooth changing.

30th July 2003, 22:03	#18
dirkdeftly Forum King Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Cydonia, Mars Posts: 2,651	i can't see it changing smoothly because it changes too fast... my morphing code is better "guilt is the cause of more disauders than history's most obscene marorders" --E. E. Cummings

31st July 2003, 00:22	#19
UnConeD Whacked Moderator Join Date: Jun 2001 Posts: 2,104	Hmm Atero I don't know what preset you're watching, but it should contain the following code in onbeat: x=equal(ip,1);y=rand(5); lc1=if(x,c1,lc1);lc2=if(x,c2,lc2);lc3=if(x,c3,lc3);lc4=if(x,c4,lc4);lc5=if(x,c5,lc5); c1=if(x,equal(y,0),c1);c2=if(x,equal(y,1),c2);c3=if(x,equal(y,2),c3);c4=if(x,equal(y,3),c4); I.e. only if the previous transition (governed by 'ip') has completed will it switch to the next one. Try putting a 300BPM custom bpm in front, it still switches smoothly here.

31st July 2003, 00:30	#20
dirkdeftly Forum King Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Cydonia, Mars Posts: 2,651	ups. loaded the wrong one i guess. >_< my morphing code is still cooler "guilt is the cause of more disauders than history's most obscene marorders" --E. E. Cummings

31st July 2003, 11:45	#21
Mr_007 Banned Join Date: Feb 2003 Posts: 2,838	Bad perest!

31st July 2003, 17:59	#22
Akuso Member Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: North Carolina Posts: 83	you tell them, Mr_007!

31st July 2003, 18:01	#23
Raz Forum King Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Manchester Posts: 6,470	Yeah, the persest is probably bad. The preset however is great.

2nd August 2003, 12:54	#24
unripeLemon Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: some place thats green Posts: 134	ahhhhhh! thats really nice raz. I was in italy so I couldn't comment sooner. Good work wow

3rd August 2003, 02:25	#25
S-uper_T-oast Forum King Join Date: May 2003 Location: Fnord?! Posts: 2,657	mmmm... I like the smooth switching, it makes the preset look 10X better.

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