What can you do about the RIAA?

marvlis · 7th August 2003, 14:12

http://action.eff.org/action/index.asp?step=2&item=2753

All of you people out there who LOVE your free music like me, and want to preserve our precious file sharing communities, need to visit
http://action.eff.org/action/index.asp?step=2&item=2753 . The EFF is taking a stand against the RIAA, all you have to do is sign up and the EFF will send a letter to your congressman regarding the current P2P situation.

http://action.eff.org/action/index.asp?step=2&item=2753

Quote:

FUCK THE RIAA!

Joel · 7th August 2003, 15:11

well...just keep the downloading and block the unknown
incomming messages

Mattress · 7th August 2003, 16:56

personally I don't think file sharing communities are precious, they're not really even communities IMO.

Mr Jones · 7th August 2003, 17:04

The only "community" aspect of any file sharing network I've encountered is when someone sends me a message to say..

"do you have barely legal vol 6"

or something similar

Hardly the stuff of stimulating community conversation

bgesley · 8th August 2003, 05:53

RIAA has no chance. When there is a large majority. It rules.

Like Christianity.

RIAA would be more like Atheism. No way they are winning
(and this comes from an Agnostic, Atheism's lil sibling)

I don't think RIAA will be able to truly accomplish anything. Even if they destroy the internet you can still go down the Record store and rent a cd and rip it and give it back.

I haven't spent money on a cd in about 6 years.
I've been around since pre-napster. Come and get me RIAA. BRING IT

JuJuBeans · 14th August 2003, 03:00

RIAA can't do anything, there are way too many ways to get free music than the ones most people know about and if the RIAA actually do get their way and get P2P banned I'll make it my personal mission to let everyone know just all the ways I know of getting things for free

Bob the Tomato · 16th August 2003, 04:18

Let us consult the Magic Conch!

Oh, mystic magic conch, what can we really do about the RIAA?

*Pulls string*

Magic Conch: Nothing.

The Conch has spoken! *Does nothing*

old and quite mad · 16th August 2003, 06:26

Quote:

Originally posted by Bob the Tomato
Let us consult the Magic Conch!

Oh, mystic magic conch, what can we really do about the RIAA?

*Pulls string*

Magic Conch: Nothing.

The Conch has spoken! *Does nothing*

ROTFLMAO!!!

oNaMiSsIo · 25th August 2003, 02:31

you guys are forgetting the importance of big money and special interest groups in politics these days. sad to say, but most of the time the money makes the laws, not the majority.

j0ck3 · 25th August 2003, 14:24

But to get a law working the majority needs to follow it. If ppl don't they can't do anything about it. You can't let over 50% ov the population go to prison for 4 years. That would cost even more money than RIAA have.

oNaMiSsIo · 25th August 2003, 14:54

I know it's not 50%, but think 'war on drugs'. because of the mandatory, incredibly long sentences for a nonviolent crime like smoking marijuana, prisons have become incredibly overcrowded and it is costing the taxpayers billions.

Ghoti · 25th August 2003, 17:20

Added to the originating post from marvlis

Boycott RIAA

"Knowledge is empowerment"

corkhead0 · 30th August 2003, 21:22

I would recommend gathering 20 or so friends, everyone pitching in for an ftp server, then everyone rips thier cd's and whatever they have downloaded onto it.

Private networks will be the future of filesharing if the RIAA gets it's way with p2p.

s1138 · 30th August 2003, 21:40

about "communities"....

some people who have all this "share 10gig or be banned. and let me download if i see something you have that i want. only download queue 2 files at a time..."

those types i wish the riaa would subpeona..

soundyg · 30th August 2003, 22:43

Well, I for one think there are way too many trojans, viruses, and accidentially open windows \\shares out there that can make backdoors in any given person's internet connection, through which any amount of data could be transferred.

If you ever got a letter, the best and brightest response would be to simply say "I didn't do anything" and then act like you have no idea what anyone's talking about. If it ever came down to it, the best defense in light of the hundreds of microsoft screwups, is, in fact, microsoft and some unknown attacker. The burden of proof is on RIAA, not you. And after all, you "agree" with RIAA. Music file sharing is an abomination. It simply seems that both you and RIAA are the innocent victims of HTTP/proxy tunneling.

Case closed. The jury's verdict? Innocent. Plus, you have the inescapeable fallback of your antivirus program "detecting" the "trojan" once you've updated the definitions. Pretty cool, eh? Now go back to peer to peer file sharing and quit being so paranoid.

baafie · 31st August 2003, 17:28

It would be amusing if people kept putting distasteful images on their website.

laz · 2nd September 2003, 01:01

what we can do, move to a 3rd world nation. Then the RIAA would be powerless against us!

Also, money wins over majoirty. Look at the 200 election, look at all of the bullshit going on in laws (making it so some buisness can not get sued for its own fuck-ups, in a bill about speeding tickets and the like (just made that one up, but I bet it has been done before, just in other ways))

LawnGnome2005 · 2nd September 2003, 09:19

I personally think that if you download/upload a bunch of music every month you deserved to be sued by the RIAA. Why can't people actually buy some music sometime. Too many people have come to just expect to get stuff for free nowadays. People need to go get a job and actually buy a CD and support the music. I also think these RIAA threads are getting old. There always seems to be one of these that pop up every couple days. I stopped supporting these stupid Anti-RIAA crap a long time ago. Of course I don't have to worry about this stupid RIAA shit anymore. iTunes all the way.

P.S. Leachers should be shot.

clownercockwise · 2nd September 2003, 13:59

Since iTunes is mentioned I'm going to mention emusic. You won't be able to get a Cheese McBritney with a large fries from emusic but you'll find plenty of things to listen to at a much better price than iTunes.

People who use p2p to trade mainstream artists are still depending on the majors to tell them what's good. I use p2p for things too rare to find in hard copy or through legitimate downloads. If people on p2p left commercial artists alone the RIAA wouldn't be on our backs about it.

But the problem is, the RIAA is swinging a hatchet in the dark. To protect their copyrights, they're using methods that will make it much harder for average citizens to transmit information to one another. The RIAA's vision of the future makes the internet like television, where all content is determined by a boss at the top.

Renigal · 2nd September 2003, 14:51

How about you buy your music :P

Rehpot · 3rd September 2003, 04:02

Boycott....

I wouldn't be aginst the RIAA if i did nto feel they were makinga terrible mistake. Sure alot of peopel download music and never buy a CD, but i'm willing to bet a LOT more actually buy more music because of it.

If its just one song i want, sure i'll download it and never buy the album. Are they losing anything? NO! If i could'nt download that one song, i'd just have to never listen to it. However, if i start downloadinga lot of songs and like the Band alot, i'll buy their album. Not because i feel guilty, but because i want it. And all of my friends are the same.

The other day, i was reading guitar world, and one of the writers mentions this band. Well i've never heard of them before. So, 6 months ago i would hop on kazaa, download it. If i liked it, i'd d/l more, if i liked htem all, i'd go buy it. But what do i do now? Well i finished reading that mag then shelved it, probably never to be read again. And that band, as far as i know, will never be heard by me...EVER.

GJ RIAA, your really gonna make alot of sales now...

clownercockwise · 4th September 2003, 14:50

US businesses are encouraged to destroy their own sales. Government bailouts are big money.

webthing · 4th September 2003, 23:48

The Recording Industry Assn. of America plans to announce an amnesty program this week that will let individual online copyright infringers off the hook if they change their ways,sources say.

Cookies_Rock · 5th September 2003, 04:28

So, what can WE do to annoy them? (just because they're big asses)

Cookies_Rock · 5th September 2003, 23:30

Oh oh oh oh oh... We should get someone to have dummy mp3 files on their computer!!!

mainyehc · 21st September 2003, 02:13

Well that's a great point! I think exactly the same as you... But there's a "minor" difference, you see? I live in Portugal (in Western Europe) a *FREE* country, where there isn't that RIAA sh*t, or censorship, or that f*cked up political system of yours... No one will actually sue me for having downloaded more than 1000 mp3 from Kazaa... Things are much easier around here...
Instead, I can find a lot of new (and old) stuff without being bothered... there are 3 bands (my favourite) which I wouldn't have ever come across with, if it wasn't for P2P... And now, I already own all of Gomez's albums, 5 out of 6 from dEUS, and 2 out of 5 from Radiohead!
Those RIAA f*ckers are completely out of their minds!
If one guy buys a CD, and hates it, not only he won't probably buy more stuff from the same band (even though bands can change for the better or for the worse), he will also lose his confidence in the record market... He will think more than twice before buying anything. Actually, I do it too! That's why I d/l some songs from some album, or the whole lot; If I can't stop listening to it, then, it's time to buy the thing and "help the artists survive". Actually, artists aren't getting a fair cut from the profits anyway!!!

7th August 2003, 15:11	#2
Joel Debian user (Forum King) Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Arch land Posts: 4,917	well...just keep the downloading and block the unknown incomming messages * PC: Intel Core 2 DUO E6550 @ 2.33 GHz with 2 GB RAM: Archlinux-i686 with MATE. * Laptop: Intel Core 2 DUO T6600 @ 2.20 GHz with 4 GB RAM: Archlinux-x86-64 with MATE.

7th August 2003, 16:56	#3
Mattress Forum King Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Milwaukee Posts: 4,577	personally I don't think file sharing communities are precious, they're not really even communities IMO. Besides shooting out a big blank from your buttock, you can feel as if your root chakra leaked sweet hot mucus.

16th August 2003, 04:18	#7
Bob the Tomato Senior Member Join Date: May 2003 Location: Louisiana Posts: 258	Re: What can you do about the RIAA? Let us consult the Magic Conch! Oh, mystic magic conch, what can we really do about the RIAA? Pulls string Magic Conch: Nothing. The Conch has spoken! Does nothing

25th August 2003, 02:31	#9
oNaMiSsIo Major Dude Join Date: May 2003 Location: The box they keep me in Posts: 1,115	you guys are forgetting the importance of big money and special interest groups in politics these days. sad to say, but most of the time the money makes the laws, not the majority. My advice is to start drinking heavily. - John Belushi, Animal House

25th August 2003, 14:24	#10
j0ck3 Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Gothenburg, Sweden Posts: 308	But to get a law working the majority needs to follow it. If ppl don't they can't do anything about it. You can't let over 50% ov the population go to prison for 4 years. That would cost even more money than RIAA have. "What you know you can't explain, but you feel it. You've felt it your entire life, that there's something wrong with the world. You don't know what it is, but it's there, like a splinter in your mind, driving you mad." I have choosen the red pil.

7th August 2003, 17:04	#4
Mr Jones Nothing to say... Join Date: Sep 2000 Location: UK Posts: 23,098	The only "community" aspect of any file sharing network I've encountered is when someone sends me a message to say.. "do you have barely legal vol 6" or something similar Hardly the stuff of stimulating community conversation

8th August 2003, 05:53	#5
bgesley Major Dude Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: without wax Posts: 948	RIAA has no chance. When there is a large majority. It rules. Like Christianity. RIAA would be more like Atheism. No way they are winning (and this comes from an Agnostic, Atheism's lil sibling) I don't think RIAA will be able to truly accomplish anything. Even if they destroy the internet you can still go down the Record store and rent a cd and rip it and give it back. I haven't spent money on a cd in about 6 years. I've been around since pre-napster. Come and get me RIAA. BRING IT

14th August 2003, 03:00	#6
JuJuBeans Junior Member Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Da MOON Posts: 9	RIAA can't do anything, there are way too many ways to get free music than the ones most people know about and if the RIAA actually do get their way and get P2P banned I'll make it my personal mission to let everyone know just all the ways I know of getting things for free

25th August 2003, 14:54	#11
oNaMiSsIo Major Dude Join Date: May 2003 Location: The box they keep me in Posts: 1,115	I know it's not 50%, but think 'war on drugs'. because of the mandatory, incredibly long sentences for a nonviolent crime like smoking marijuana, prisons have become incredibly overcrowded and it is costing the taxpayers billions. My advice is to start drinking heavily. - John Belushi, Animal House

25th August 2003, 17:20	#12
Ghoti Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Midwest USA Posts: 131	Added to the originating post from marvlis Boycott RIAA "Knowledge is empowerment" Whoa! You see it too?!

30th August 2003, 21:22	#13
corkhead0 Major Dude Join Date: Oct 2002 Posts: 548	I would recommend gathering 20 or so friends, everyone pitching in for an ftp server, then everyone rips thier cd's and whatever they have downloaded onto it. Private networks will be the future of filesharing if the RIAA gets it's way with p2p.

30th August 2003, 21:40	#14
s1138 Alumni? Join Date: May 2000 Location: joja Posts: 6,936	about "communities".... some people who have all this "share 10gig or be banned. and let me download if i see something you have that i want. only download queue 2 files at a time..." those types i wish the riaa would subpeona..

30th August 2003, 22:43	#15
soundyg Junior Member Join Date: Aug 2003 Posts: 1	If you get a letter.... Well, I for one think there are way too many trojans, viruses, and accidentially open windows \\shares out there that can make backdoors in any given person's internet connection, through which any amount of data could be transferred. If you ever got a letter, the best and brightest response would be to simply say "I didn't do anything" and then act like you have no idea what anyone's talking about. If it ever came down to it, the best defense in light of the hundreds of microsoft screwups, is, in fact, microsoft and some unknown attacker. The burden of proof is on RIAA, not you. And after all, you "agree" with RIAA. Music file sharing is an abomination. It simply seems that both you and RIAA are the innocent victims of HTTP/proxy tunneling. Case closed. The jury's verdict? Innocent. Plus, you have the inescapeable fallback of your antivirus program "detecting" the "trojan" once you've updated the definitions. Pretty cool, eh? Now go back to peer to peer file sharing and quit being so paranoid.

31st August 2003, 17:28	#16
baafie feminazi (Major Dude) Join Date: Apr 2001 Posts: 1,767	It would be amusing if people kept putting distasteful images on their website.

2nd September 2003, 01:01	#17
laz Major Dude Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: the internet Posts: 1,089	what we can do, move to a 3rd world nation. Then the RIAA would be powerless against us! Also, money wins over majoirty. Look at the 200 election, look at all of the bullshit going on in laws (making it so some buisness can not get sued for its own fuck-ups, in a bill about speeding tickets and the like (just made that one up, but I bet it has been done before, just in other ways))

2nd September 2003, 09:19	#18
LawnGnome2005 Major Dude Join Date: Mar 2002 Posts: 598	I personally think that if you download/upload a bunch of music every month you deserved to be sued by the RIAA. Why can't people actually buy some music sometime. Too many people have come to just expect to get stuff for free nowadays. People need to go get a job and actually buy a CD and support the music. I also think these RIAA threads are getting old. There always seems to be one of these that pop up every couple days. I stopped supporting these stupid Anti-RIAA crap a long time ago. Of course I don't have to worry about this stupid RIAA shit anymore. iTunes all the way. P.S. Leachers should be shot.

2nd September 2003, 13:59	#19
clownercockwise Member Join Date: Aug 2002 Posts: 70	Since iTunes is mentioned I'm going to mention emusic. You won't be able to get a Cheese McBritney with a large fries from emusic but you'll find plenty of things to listen to at a much better price than iTunes. People who use p2p to trade mainstream artists are still depending on the majors to tell them what's good. I use p2p for things too rare to find in hard copy or through legitimate downloads. If people on p2p left commercial artists alone the RIAA wouldn't be on our backs about it. But the problem is, the RIAA is swinging a hatchet in the dark. To protect their copyrights, they're using methods that will make it much harder for average citizens to transmit information to one another. The RIAA's vision of the future makes the internet like television, where all content is determined by a boss at the top.

2nd September 2003, 14:51	#20
Renigal Junior Member Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Toronto, Ontario, Canada Posts: 49	How about you buy your music :P

3rd September 2003, 04:02	#21
Rehpot Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Dont know :( Posts: 138	Boycott.... I wouldn't be aginst the RIAA if i did nto feel they were makinga terrible mistake. Sure alot of peopel download music and never buy a CD, but i'm willing to bet a LOT more actually buy more music because of it. If its just one song i want, sure i'll download it and never buy the album. Are they losing anything? NO! If i could'nt download that one song, i'd just have to never listen to it. However, if i start downloadinga lot of songs and like the Band alot, i'll buy their album. Not because i feel guilty, but because i want it. And all of my friends are the same. The other day, i was reading guitar world, and one of the writers mentions this band. Well i've never heard of them before. So, 6 months ago i would hop on kazaa, download it. If i liked it, i'd d/l more, if i liked htem all, i'd go buy it. But what do i do now? Well i finished reading that mag then shelved it, probably never to be read again. And that band, as far as i know, will never be heard by me...EVER. GJ RIAA, your really gonna make alot of sales now...

4th September 2003, 14:50	#22
clownercockwise Member Join Date: Aug 2002 Posts: 70	US businesses are encouraged to destroy their own sales. Government bailouts are big money.

4th September 2003, 23:48	#23
webthing Forum King Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: South Central Pennsylvania USA Posts: 2,653	The Recording Industry Assn. of America plans to announce an amnesty program this week that will let individual online copyright infringers off the hook if they change their ways,sources say.

5th September 2003, 04:28	#24
Cookies_Rock Junior Member Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Canada Posts: 5	So, what can WE do to annoy them? (just because they're big asses)

5th September 2003, 23:30	#25
Cookies_Rock Junior Member Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Canada Posts: 5	Oh oh oh oh oh... We should get someone to have dummy mp3 files on their computer!!!

21st September 2003, 02:13	#26
mainyehc Junior Member Join Date: Apr 2003 Posts: 6	Well that's a great point! I think exactly the same as you... But there's a "minor" difference, you see? I live in Portugal (in Western Europe) a *FREE* country, where there isn't that RIAA sht, or censorship, or that fcked up political system of yours... No one will actually sue me for having downloaded more than 1000 mp3 from Kazaa... Things are much easier around here... Instead, I can find a lot of new (and old) stuff without being bothered... there are 3 bands (my favourite) which I wouldn't have ever come across with, if it wasn't for P2P... And now, I already own all of Gomez's albums, 5 out of 6 from dEUS, and 2 out of 5 from Radiohead! Those RIAA f*ckers are completely out of their minds! If one guy buys a CD, and hates it, not only he won't probably buy more stuff from the same band (even though bands can change for the better or for the worse), he will also lose his confidence in the record market... He will think more than twice before buying anything. Actually, I do it too! That's why I d/l some songs from some album, or the whole lot; If I can't stop listening to it, then, it's time to buy the thing and "help the artists survive". Actually, artists aren't getting a fair cut from the profits anyway!!!

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