Compulsory Listening: Which NEW WAVE albums?

Cylob · 9th August 2003, 08:37

New Wave/Synth Pop:

DMX Krew - We Are DMX

And of course:

Mr_007 · 9th August 2003, 11:18

Oh good music team!
really is new wave!

Cylob · 9th August 2003, 11:35

Are you feeling alright Mr_007!

Triton4 · 10th August 2003, 16:14

Compulsory Listening:

Frankie Goes To Hollywood

Cylob · 11th August 2003, 05:53

Definitely Triton4. What strikes me about the 80's is bands such as Frankie were hyped to the teeth, but the credit was deserved. With today's charts, the hype is just that.

Also good from '84:

Twilightseer · 11th August 2003, 11:33

"Some Great Reward" : the time when DM was good

Now, it's just low quality stuff.

I would recommend the New Order albums from " Power, Corruption & Lies" (even if Sumner sings horribly on some tracks" to "Technique" included.

Cylob · 11th August 2003, 12:09

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Originally posted by Twilightseer
I would recommend the New Order albums from " Power, Corruption & Lies" (even if Sumner sings horribly on some tracks" to "Technique" included.

That takes in Lowlife & Brotherhood.

What about Movement then, it's an amazing album. Very tight percussion, bass & guitar, a splattering of analog here and there. Surreal, almost chilling in places. It can't be dismissed as Joy Division with Bernard on vocals.

Twilightseer · 11th August 2003, 12:13

I thought you wanted new wave records focusing mostly on synths, that's why

Movement is excellent, more guitar-driven but the atmospheres are very dark. Fave song on it is "The Him". Terrifying

Cylob · 11th August 2003, 15:19

The Him is pretty bleak. My favourite tracks - Dreams Never End & ICB. I love the guitars on the former & the analog on the latter. Some early new-wave material has a dark element, the Human League/Dare for instance. I suppose it depends on what you class as new-wave - I like to think of it as early 80's synth-pop both dark & light.

Cylob · 11th August 2003, 15:23

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Originally posted by Cylob
I suppose it depends on what you class as new-wave - I like to think of it as early 80's synth-pop both dark & light.

Are you allowed to quote yourself?!??!

I forgot to mention new-wave has re-emerged (new acts like Ladytron, DMX Krew springing up all over the place). Some of the bands are indistinguishable from their 80's counterparts. It's good stuff indeed.

ShyShy · 12th August 2003, 02:50

what no mention of Erasure? c'mon, they were a great ripoff band

and i can't believe i forgot the Pet Shop Boys. and sorry for not actually listing albums, i'm in the process of rebuilding my music collection.

Cylob · 12th August 2003, 05:26

What happened to your music collection (nothing serious I hope)! Erasure weren't at the top of my list, I always preferred Yazoo:

Andy Bell's positively frightening. A friend of mine saw them in Plymouth 2 months ago - I told him not to stand directly in front of Andy at all costs.

Twilightseer · 12th August 2003, 07:56

There is a song on the Yazoo album called Winter Kills, it's so desperate and dark I wasn't even sure Yazoo was playing it

PSB absolutely rock, esp the early stuff. Release was an average album but the new Disco 3 collection takes them back to what they do best, it's awesome

Cylob · 12th August 2003, 09:36

Quote:

Originally posted by Twilightseer
There is a song on the Yazoo album called Winter Kills, it's so desperate and dark I wasn't even sure Yazoo was playing it

That's what I mean about new wave being dark & light (often on the same album).

Quote:

Originally posted by Twilightseer
PSB absolutely rock, esp the early stuff. Release was an average album but the new Disco 3 collection takes them back to what they do best, it's awesome

PSB/Disco 3 rocks! Apparently their best work in 15 years. If anyone hasn't got it yet you're missing a treat!

ShyShy · 12th August 2003, 20:34

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Originally posted by Cylob
What happened to your music collection (nothing serious I hope)!

fucking ex roomates back in Texas stole them while i was on a trip, bitches didn't even know 1/4 of the bands i had cd's for, they just stole them to sell at a used place. so, i'm back to square one on trying to buildup the collection again. which is why i'm sooooo thankful for this area.

Cylob · 12th August 2003, 21:22

That must've been a killer blow. I don't have to worry, you'd need a forklift to remove my CD collection. Of course it's also booby-trapped.

Ah well ShyShy, there's always p2p (your friend)!

DJ Egg · 13th August 2003, 02:41

Hmm . . . my interpretation of "New Wave" differs slightly.
To me, it was always the post-punk era c.1978-82-ish
Synth pop probably arrived on the scene towards the end of the new-wave era.

Anyway, here's some of my faves . . . in no particular order:

Magazine - Secondhand Daylight | The Correct Use of Soap
Joy Division - Unknown Pleasures | Closer | Substance
Killing Joke - Killing Joke | What's This For
Gang of Four - Entertainment
The Cure - 17 Seconds
The Slits - Cut
Young Marble Giants - Colossal Youth
Throbbing Gristle - D.O.A. - The Third And Final Report | 20 Jazz Funk Greats
Clock DVA - Thirst
Psychic TV - Force The Hand of Chance | Dreams Less Sweet
The Clash - London Calling | Sandinista
Siouxsie - Join Hands | The Scream | Juju
PiL - PiL | Metal Box
Bauhaus - In The Flatfield
Pyschedelic Furs - PF | Talk Talk Talk | Forever Now
Simple Minds (Steve Hillage productions, 79-81) - Life in a Day | Real to Real Cacophany | Empires and Dance | Sons & Fascination
Dead Can Dance - Aion | Toward The Within | Within The Realms of A Dying Sun | The Serpent's Egg | (though I preferred their later stuff even more, eg. Spiritchaser, Into the Labyrinth, A Passage in Time)
Japan - Still Life
Coil - Snow | Love's Secret Domain | Horse Rotorvator | Scatology | . . .
Durutti Column - LC | Dry | Lips That Would Kiss | Circuses & Bread | Return of The DC | The Guitar and Other Machines
Cocteau Twins - Garlands | Head Over Heels | Pink Opaque | Treasure
Cabaret Voltaire - Chapter One | Dance Decayed | Mix Up
The Fall - WitchTrials | Dragnet | Totale's Turns | Grotesque
Propaganda - A Secret Wish
The Cravats - The Cravats in Toyland
Wire - Chairs Missing | 154
The Pop Group - Y | We Are Time | For How Much Longer Do We Tolerate Mass Murder? | We Are All Prostitutes
Comsat Angels - Land

to name but a few . . . (well, ^those^ are the ones I can name off the top of my head, I've forgotten more than I can remember, hehe)

oh, and yes! definitely! New Order - Movement

Though a lot of the best stuff at the time were 7" singles/EP's only.
Aah, those were the days . . . lol

Cylob · 13th August 2003, 06:54

Quote:

Originally posted by DJ Egg
Hmm . . . my interpretation of "New Wave" differs slightly.
To me, it was always the post-punk era c.1978-82-ish
Synth pop probably arrived on the scene towards the end of the new-wave era.

I consider the New Romantics to be very much part of New Wave, taking it from 78' right through to about '87. The nail in the coffin was house music and Stock Aitken & Waterman's 'formula pop'. The first time I heard Rick Astley I knew it was bad news.

That list was off the top of your head DJ Egg????? I'd hate to estimate the size of your 'record collection'. Some very dark stuff there. Reminds me I must restore my Killing Joke collection soon, the LP's were lost in a house move. Damn, 8.00am!!! Off to work (like a good slave).

DJ Egg · 13th August 2003, 15:10

Yeah, those were the days . . . when everything was properly genre-cised.
Every artist/tune fitted into a category/style, and each style had it's own followers (musically, culturally, and fashion-wise).
Gangs of teds, mods, rockers, punks, stiffs, new romantics, rude boys, skinheads, the lot, everywhere. Hey, those were violent times.
I kinda felt sorry for the hippies, infact, I even became one (from punk 1976-81, to hippy 1981-4, to whatever I am today, lol)

Electronic music never really fitted into any of those styles.
The nearest you'd get was Gary Numan fans dressed in boiler suits...

I suppose the synth-orientated music evolved and split off into different factions.
From Stockhausen to the early 70's electronic stuff (Tangerine Dream, Kraftwerk, Eno, Can, White Noise, etc). This branched off into: avant garde; electronic new wave (progressive/experimental or mainstream); new romantic; synth pop; electro-disco/house; techno/trance; ambient; industrial; to what we have today, etc etc.

btw, I had a little help from my Winamp library with that list.
My memory's not quite as good as it used to be, hehe.

As for my music collection (vinyl, cd, cassette, mp3) . . .
well, you'll probably need 2 or 3 heavy duty forklift trucks to move mine.

Twilightseer · 13th August 2003, 15:17

I wish I could buy as much records as DJEgg

I see that DJEgg listed Propaganda, what an awesome album "A Secret Wish" is

Fantastic production and sound design. And speaking of ZTT records, Art Of Noise is an incredible band. I bought their latest Studio release (2000) called The Seduction Of Claude Debussy, it's of the most fascinating electronic records I've ever heard. Moments In Love and Close To The Edit are classics

Cylob · 13th August 2003, 15:42

Quote:

Originally posted by DJ Egg
Electronic music never really fitted into any of those styles.
The nearest you'd get was Gary Numan fans dressed in boiler suits...

hehehe! A bit of a risk walking down a late 70's street in a such attire - what if you bumped into a bunch of skinheads?????

I find the development of electronic music interesting, it seems to be the German contingent who really brought it about. I'm only just getting into early krautrock (Can & Neu! in particular). I find Can heavy going, Neu! are more accessible (thanks to Stereolab). I've always liked Kraftwerk - didn't they coin the first electronic dance sound?

My own music collection's now entirely MP3 based, a marvel of modern technology (until a HD blows that is). It has a habit of growing exponentially. But if people will make good music......

Thanks for your insight into electronica/new wave DJ Egg, jolly decent of you to share your expertise. Your band-list (78-82) is rather nostalgic actually, bands with attitude and purpose. It's all a bit different these days - there's still a wealth of good music, but what about the attitude???

Cylob · 13th August 2003, 15:45

Quote:

Originally posted by Twilightseer
And speaking of ZTT records, Art Of Noise is an incredible band. I bought their latest Studio release (2000) called The Seduction Of Claude Debussy, it's of the most fascinating electronic records I've ever heard. Moments In Love and Close To The Edit are classics

They're still going??????? That is a surprise!!! Close to the Edit must be a New Wave classic.

... And Peter Gunn.

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Cylob Forum Music King (Forum King) Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: The Future Posts: 7,175	The Him is pretty bleak. My favourite tracks - Dreams Never End & ICB. I love the guitars on the former & the analog on the latter. Some early new-wave material has a dark element, the Human League/Dare for instance. I suppose it depends on what you class as new-wave - I like to think of it as early 80's synth-pop both dark & light. Secret Snacker & Accomplished Pen Thief At:

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Cylob Forum Music King (Forum King) Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: The Future Posts: 7,175	What happened to your music collection (nothing serious I hope)! Erasure weren't at the top of my list, I always preferred Yazoo: Andy Bell's positively frightening. A friend of mine saw them in Plymouth 2 months ago - I told him not to stand directly in front of Andy at all costs. Secret Snacker & Accomplished Pen Thief At:

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Mr_007 Banned Join Date: Feb 2003 Posts: 2,838	Oh good music team! really is new wave!

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Triton4 Major Dude Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: CA Posts: 1,307	Compulsory Listening: Frankie Goes To Hollywood

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Twilightseer Frenchoderator Join Date: May 2000 Location: Lavabo, fond du couloir, 3è porte à droite Posts: 6,309	"Some Great Reward" : the time when DM was good Now, it's just low quality stuff. I would recommend the New Order albums from " Power, Corruption & Lies" (even if Sumner sings horribly on some tracks" to "Technique" included.

11th August 2003, 12:13	#8
Twilightseer Frenchoderator Join Date: May 2000 Location: Lavabo, fond du couloir, 3è porte à droite Posts: 6,309	I thought you wanted new wave records focusing mostly on synths, that's why Movement is excellent, more guitar-driven but the atmospheres are very dark. Fave song on it is "The Him". Terrifying

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ShyShy Amazon Bush Woman Forum Queen Join Date: May 2003 Location: The Sticks, Queensland Posts: 8,066	what no mention of Erasure? c'mon, they were a great ripoff band and i can't believe i forgot the Pet Shop Boys. and sorry for not actually listing albums, i'm in the process of rebuilding my music collection.

12th August 2003, 07:56	#13
Twilightseer Frenchoderator Join Date: May 2000 Location: Lavabo, fond du couloir, 3è porte à droite Posts: 6,309	There is a song on the Yazoo album called Winter Kills, it's so desperate and dark I wasn't even sure Yazoo was playing it PSB absolutely rock, esp the early stuff. Release was an average album but the new Disco 3 collection takes them back to what they do best, it's awesome

12th August 2003, 21:22	#16
Cylob Forum Music King (Forum King) Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: The Future Posts: 7,175	That must've been a killer blow. I don't have to worry, you'd need a forklift to remove my CD collection. Of course it's also booby-trapped. Ah well ShyShy, there's always p2p (your friend)! Secret Snacker & Accomplished Pen Thief At:

13th August 2003, 02:41	#17
DJ Egg Techorator Winamp & Shoutcast Team Join Date: Jun 2000 Posts: 35,894	Hmm . . . my interpretation of "New Wave" differs slightly. To me, it was always the post-punk era c.1978-82-ish Synth pop probably arrived on the scene towards the end of the new-wave era. Anyway, here's some of my faves . . . in no particular order: Magazine - Secondhand Daylight \| The Correct Use of Soap Joy Division - Unknown Pleasures \| Closer \| Substance Killing Joke - Killing Joke \| What's This For Gang of Four - Entertainment The Cure - 17 Seconds The Slits - Cut Young Marble Giants - Colossal Youth Throbbing Gristle - D.O.A. - The Third And Final Report \| 20 Jazz Funk Greats Clock DVA - Thirst Psychic TV - Force The Hand of Chance \| Dreams Less Sweet The Clash - London Calling \| Sandinista Siouxsie - Join Hands \| The Scream \| Juju PiL - PiL \| Metal Box Bauhaus - In The Flatfield Pyschedelic Furs - PF \| Talk Talk Talk \| Forever Now Simple Minds (Steve Hillage productions, 79-81) - Life in a Day \| Real to Real Cacophany \| Empires and Dance \| Sons & Fascination Dead Can Dance - Aion \| Toward The Within \| Within The Realms of A Dying Sun \| The Serpent's Egg \| (though I preferred their later stuff even more, eg. Spiritchaser, Into the Labyrinth, A Passage in Time) Japan - Still Life Coil - Snow \| Love's Secret Domain \| Horse Rotorvator \| Scatology \| . . . Durutti Column - LC \| Dry \| Lips That Would Kiss \| Circuses & Bread \| Return of The DC \| The Guitar and Other Machines Cocteau Twins - Garlands \| Head Over Heels \| Pink Opaque \| Treasure Cabaret Voltaire - Chapter One \| Dance Decayed \| Mix Up The Fall - WitchTrials \| Dragnet \| Totale's Turns \| Grotesque Propaganda - A Secret Wish The Cravats - The Cravats in Toyland Wire - Chairs Missing \| 154 The Pop Group - Y \| We Are Time \| For How Much Longer Do We Tolerate Mass Murder? \| We Are All Prostitutes Comsat Angels - Land to name but a few . . . (well, ^those^ are the ones I can name off the top of my head, I've forgotten more than I can remember, hehe) oh, and yes! definitely! New Order - Movement Though a lot of the best stuff at the time were 7" singles/EP's only. Aah, those were the days . . . lol Playlist -\|- Twitter

13th August 2003, 15:10	#19
DJ Egg Techorator Winamp & Shoutcast Team Join Date: Jun 2000 Posts: 35,894	Yeah, those were the days . . . when everything was properly genre-cised. Every artist/tune fitted into a category/style, and each style had it's own followers (musically, culturally, and fashion-wise). Gangs of teds, mods, rockers, punks, stiffs, new romantics, rude boys, skinheads, the lot, everywhere. Hey, those were violent times. I kinda felt sorry for the hippies, infact, I even became one (from punk 1976-81, to hippy 1981-4, to whatever I am today, lol) Electronic music never really fitted into any of those styles. The nearest you'd get was Gary Numan fans dressed in boiler suits... I suppose the synth-orientated music evolved and split off into different factions. From Stockhausen to the early 70's electronic stuff (Tangerine Dream, Kraftwerk, Eno, Can, White Noise, etc). This branched off into: avant garde; electronic new wave (progressive/experimental or mainstream); new romantic; synth pop; electro-disco/house; techno/trance; ambient; industrial; to what we have today, etc etc. btw, I had a little help from my Winamp library with that list. My memory's not quite as good as it used to be, hehe. As for my music collection (vinyl, cd, cassette, mp3) . . . well, you'll probably need 2 or 3 heavy duty forklift trucks to move mine. Playlist -\|- Twitter

13th August 2003, 15:17	#20
Twilightseer Frenchoderator Join Date: May 2000 Location: Lavabo, fond du couloir, 3è porte à droite Posts: 6,309	I wish I could buy as much records as DJEgg I see that DJEgg listed Propaganda, what an awesome album "A Secret Wish" is Fantastic production and sound design. And speaking of ZTT records, Art Of Noise is an incredible band. I bought their latest Studio release (2000) called The Seduction Of Claude Debussy, it's of the most fascinating electronic records I've ever heard. Moments In Love and Close To The Edit are classics

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