Shoutcast developement STOPPED

DJLopez · 5th September 2003, 17:59

I've heard from a german site, shoutcast will no longer be developed.

Is it true?
IMHO it must be so, because there was a very long time no more update....... and there ARE known bugs!

5th September 2003, 18:46

Ummmm.... don't trust the Germans.

http://www.shoutcast.com/ > All the way at the bottom under "NEW! SHOUTcast turns 60!"

Quote:

We're slaving away in our free moments on SHOUTcast 3.0, which will provide nifty features like multiple stations per host, user authentication, broadcaster registration, support for our new high-fidelity, low-bitrate codecs, integration with ad-insertion services, network localization, and NSV video support as well. Expect to see betas in the first quarter of next year!

DJLopez · 5th September 2003, 19:05

Quote:

Expect to see betas in the first quarter of next year!

NEXT YEAR?????????

Crazy english-speakin' dudez

Why v2 or even BUGFIXES are not released

((((((

FesterHead · 5th September 2003, 20:06

What bugs?

DJLopez · 5th September 2003, 20:45

HAHA,
you make me smiling!

http://forums.winamp.com/showthread....threadid=89325

DSP :: Left Channel Disappears Bug
DSP :: Encoder 1 Defaults to 24 kbps When Switching Input Device Bug

And I found 2 others... it's because run some streams...
But these 2 are HEAVY

LollipopLustKil · 5th September 2003, 20:48

Well, those aren't very big. You can easily bypass them, so what's the need to waste time on fixing a bug? If I were them, I'd spend all my time on V3.0 like they are now.

Jay · 5th September 2003, 20:56

the shoutcast dsp plugin (from what I hear) is being redeveloped to include the new multi-format nature they are going for. This is just speculation but I think they may be waiting on Winamp5 for licensing reasons.

As for SHOUTcast Server itself, there are really no major bugs at this time that need fixing, and the DSP is easily replacable with other options.

DJLopez · 5th September 2003, 21:11

Hey come down, I AM letting shoutcast streams, and I get nearly EVERY WEEK (!!!!!!!!) a mail, why *I* would drop their streams to 24kb/s!!

I could KICK the developers for NOT FIXING this DAMN SH!T F*CKING BUG _EVERYDAY_ !!!!!!!!!!!!

F*ck *ff workarounds, I also develope applications, and I try to fix bugs ALWAYS !!!

It's nice, if sc isn't died, but it would take about 1 day to fix this DAMN bugs.

Perhaps you're intelligent enough to know:
MY WRITTEN ENGLISH SUXX, but some ppl DONT UNDERSTAND ENGLISH!

So this ppl can't understand these bugs...................

Fix it,... it takes no much time.....

biscoradio · 5th September 2003, 21:27

Just don't use encoder #1 and your streams won't fall back to 24kbps. Isn't that easier than responding to emails and complaining about a free software product? I think so. Just like the Germans, instead of doing things the easy way, they want to get mad and kick everyone.

The bug is just on encoder 1... not too hard to work around.

DJLopez · 6th September 2003, 11:04

Quote:

The bug is just on encoder 1... not too hard to work around.

You dont read what I write...
I'm letting streams... I get EVERY DAY questions about this F*** bug, and sometimes they say, I am limit their streams to 24kb/s.

EVERY DAY...

But instead of copy-paste the wrong sourcecode (from encoder2) & compile it again.... WORKAROUND.

Made by ppl without culture

YtseJam · 6th September 2003, 11:31

Sawg, that was said back at November 20th, 2002...

FesterHead · 6th September 2003, 18:38

Your encouragement for completing any bug fixes or development is not in******ting.

Calm down, drop the pseudo swear words, and present your arguments in a reasonable fashion.

It's easier to catch flies with honey than vinegar.

DJLopez · 7th September 2003, 00:51

Quote:

and present your arguments in a reasonable fashion.

Dunno how often, but for you again:

- there are users, they don't understand english, so they can't read workarounds!
- there are users, they don't even KNOW, that this 24kbps-issue IS a bug!
- there are users, they even don't read forums, because they are too big to get an answer (see microsoft bug/security-hole db)

This 24kbps-issue COULD be fixed in some hours...

Why the heck I should use workarounds? The developers could fix it... FAST... they only DON'T WANT.

And - see above - I AM developer............

Is this for you a reasonable fashion?

LollipopLustKil · 7th September 2003, 01:37

Do YOU understand english? Found some errors in that message of yours.

If your a developer, why don't you fix the bugs your self instead of bitching about it. Your acting like your all big and mighty, fix the bugs you found and get over it. The people that made SHOUTcast must have alot of things going on if they can't find the time to fix it.

If that the time, they would fix the bugs, make a better layout for their site, update the news a bit, and more. They just can't find the time to do it all.

DJLopez · 8th September 2003, 12:55

Quote:

If your a developer, why don't you fix the bugs your self instead of bitching about it?

It's not open-source! Gimme the sourcecode, and I'll fix it!

Quote:

The people that made SHOUTcast must have alot of things going on if they can't find the time to fix it.

It would take about some hours, 1 day max. !!! For fixing badassbugs it's not much time...

Quote:

If that the time, they would fix the bugs, make a better layout for their site, update the news a bit, and more.

They don't fix bugs, they don't change layouts/designs, they don't write news... them are developing sc_v3 - OK - but I was talking about fixing bugs, which would take approx. 1 day, and they don't do

LollipopLustKil · 8th September 2003, 22:06

SHOUTcast really isn't a company, it's just a few people that made it. There's no huge corporation invloved, and these people have lives of their own also to deal with.

ciacomix · 9th September 2003, 09:02

Personally i m still using the old DSP 1.80, the main reason is that the title update is working if you press "apply". I tried everything with the DSP 1.82b, but i m simply not able to set my own title when i m streaming using a line-in source - and as i know there`s no workaround for it.

Jay · 9th September 2003, 14:32

heh, you just mentioned the work around

jackherer · 12th September 2003, 17:23

Quote:

Originally posted by LollipopLustKil
SHOUTcast really isn't a company, it's just a few people that made it. There's no huge corporation invloved, and these people have lives of their own also to deal with.

Erm, Nullsoft is owned by AOL Time Warner who are a very very huge corporation, not that i'm complaining about shoutcast or winamp i think they are both great, just though i'd point it out tho ;-)

sogster · 14th September 2003, 00:19

If they open sourced the linux version of sc_trans I would be a happy camper. I just use Holyshout however. Version 3 of the server looks good -- I just hope they don't forget a variety of streaming interfaces....I think it is such a task that should not have to require a GUI (winamp plugin) to function -- because you are not playing the song, you are just sending it to the server.

5th September 2003, 20:48	#6
LollipopLustKil Insomniac (Forum King) Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Ohio Posts: 3,033	Well, those aren't very big. You can easily bypass them, so what's the need to waste time on fixing a bug? If I were them, I'd spend all my time on V3.0 like they are now. Scotty Doesn't Know

5th September 2003, 20:56	#7
Jay Moderator Alumni Join Date: May 2000 Location: Next Door Posts: 8,942	the shoutcast dsp plugin (from what I hear) is being redeveloped to include the new multi-format nature they are going for. This is just speculation but I think they may be waiting on Winamp5 for licensing reasons. As for SHOUTcast Server itself, there are really no major bugs at this time that need fixing, and the DSP is easily replacable with other options. -Jay \| Radio Toolbox.com

7th September 2003, 01:37	#14
LollipopLustKil Insomniac (Forum King) Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Ohio Posts: 3,033	Do YOU understand english? Found some errors in that message of yours. If your a developer, why don't you fix the bugs your self instead of bitching about it. Your acting like your all big and mighty, fix the bugs you found and get over it. The people that made SHOUTcast must have alot of things going on if they can't find the time to fix it. If that the time, they would fix the bugs, make a better layout for their site, update the news a bit, and more. They just can't find the time to do it all. Scotty Doesn't Know

8th September 2003, 22:06	#16
LollipopLustKil Insomniac (Forum King) Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Ohio Posts: 3,033	SHOUTcast really isn't a company, it's just a few people that made it. There's no huge corporation invloved, and these people have lives of their own also to deal with. Scotty Doesn't Know

9th September 2003, 14:32	#18
Jay Moderator Alumni Join Date: May 2000 Location: Next Door Posts: 8,942	heh, you just mentioned the work around -Jay \| Radio Toolbox.com

5th September 2003, 17:59	#1
DJLopez Junior Member Join Date: Jan 2003 Posts: 33	Shoutcast developement STOPPED I've heard from a german site, shoutcast will no longer be developed. Is it true? IMHO it must be so, because there was a very long time no more update....... and there ARE known bugs!

5th September 2003, 20:06	#4
FesterHead Alumni Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: Maui, Hawaii Posts: 14,108	What bugs?

5th September 2003, 20:45	#5
DJLopez Junior Member Join Date: Jan 2003 Posts: 33	HAHA, you make me smiling! http://forums.winamp.com/showthread....threadid=89325 DSP :: Left Channel Disappears Bug DSP :: Encoder 1 Defaults to 24 kbps When Switching Input Device Bug And I found 2 others... it's because run some streams... But these 2 are HEAVY

5th September 2003, 21:11	#8
DJLopez Junior Member Join Date: Jan 2003 Posts: 33	Hey come down, I AM letting shoutcast streams, and I get nearly EVERY WEEK (!!!!!!!!) a mail, why I would drop their streams to 24kb/s!! I could KICK the developers for NOT FIXING this DAMN SH!T FCKING BUG _EVERYDAY_ !!!!!!!!!!!! Fck *ff workarounds, I also develope applications, and I try to fix bugs ALWAYS !!! It's nice, if sc isn't died, but it would take about 1 day to fix this DAMN bugs. Perhaps you're intelligent enough to know: MY WRITTEN ENGLISH SUXX, but some ppl DONT UNDERSTAND ENGLISH! So this ppl can't understand these bugs................... Fix it,... it takes no much time.....

5th September 2003, 21:27	#9
biscoradio Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Chicago Posts: 126	Just don't use encoder #1 and your streams won't fall back to 24kbps. Isn't that easier than responding to emails and complaining about a free software product? I think so. Just like the Germans, instead of doing things the easy way, they want to get mad and kick everyone. The bug is just on encoder 1... not too hard to work around.

6th September 2003, 11:31	#11
YtseJam Forum King Join Date: Dec 2000 Location: Israel Posts: 2,398	Sawg, that was said back at November 20th, 2002...

6th September 2003, 18:38	#12
FesterHead Alumni Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: Maui, Hawaii Posts: 14,108	Your encouragement for completing any bug fixes or development is not in******ting. Calm down, drop the pseudo swear words, and present your arguments in a reasonable fashion. It's easier to catch flies with honey than vinegar.

9th September 2003, 09:02	#17
ciacomix Junior Member Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: Germany Posts: 30	Personally i m still using the old DSP 1.80, the main reason is that the title update is working if you press "apply". I tried everything with the DSP 1.82b, but i m simply not able to set my own title when i m streaming using a line-in source - and as i know there`s no workaround for it.

14th September 2003, 00:19	#20
sogster Junior Member Join Date: Sep 2003 Posts: 3	If they open sourced the linux version of sc_trans I would be a happy camper. I just use Holyshout however. Version 3 of the server looks good -- I just hope they don't forget a variety of streaming interfaces....I think it is such a task that should not have to require a GUI (winamp plugin) to function -- because you are not playing the song, you are just sending it to the server.

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