Pet Shop Boys

Cylob · 23rd September 2003, 16:50

Any thoughts on the muscular petshop boys? What's your favourite album? Mine (without hesitance):

Also, has everyone got Disco 3 yet??? If not, why??? Being Disco 3-less is a tragedy.

Triton4 · 23rd September 2003, 18:10

My favourite PSB albums are:

1. Actually

2. Nightlife

ShyShy · 23rd September 2003, 20:50

Sadly this is the only one to have made it out of Texas.

Cylob · 23rd September 2003, 21:21

Perhaps the thieves didn't fancy the nobbly bits (sorry I couldn't resist a pun).

Wholesale theft of CD's should be a capital offense (it probably is in Texas).

Good album BTW. I have the rare blue dimply case.

orac · 24th September 2003, 08:41

Introspective

Relentless (limited edition dance album that came with Very)

Behaviour nearly makes the mark, disco 3 is very good if you remove the apalling Try it - but it does resort to banging towards the end.. and then has a piano track (London).

PSB are great when doing more dance orientated stuff - Release with guitars, didn't work for me at all..

Twilightseer · 24th September 2003, 15:04

Haven't heard all of their albums, but Very is excellent.
And yes, Disco 3 is superb, so is Alternative (b-side compilation)

Cylob · 24th September 2003, 15:08

Quote:

Originally posted by orac
disco 3 is very good if you remove the apalling Try it - but it does resort to banging towards the end...

Surely you're not referring to the excellent Blank & Jones remix of Home & Dry??

Twilightseer · 24th September 2003, 15:13

I really like Blank & Jones' version of Home And Dry

Try It was also a very good song, my fave song on the album is probably Positive Role Model because it's so infectious and there's this awesome sample of a Barry White song (which was widely used in Ally Mc Beal, take that Cylob

)

Only track I hated on disco 3 was the remix of Sexy Northerner, plain awful.

Cylob · 24th September 2003, 15:27

Positive Role Model. What quality. I must give it some airplay, it's a great track for Halo or any social occasion. Infectious definitely.

Which Barry White song then 'seer??? I'm ignorant of his work. He was the large black guy who ate raw liver right?

Twilightseer · 25th September 2003, 07:35

The song PSB sampled was one of White's major hit called " You're the first, the last, my everything"

orac · 25th September 2003, 07:42

we had a new testing server at work and they were looking for names for it.. I said jokingly Barry White and thats what it was called - they put a big picture of him as wallpaper..

Mr Jones · 25th September 2003, 07:44

The only PSB stuff in my collection is as follows..

Original Disco album, on cassette of all things, amusing story connected with this, unprintable here sadly

Very Relentless, the super limited double edition of Very with the dance album that's mentioned above in wierd flexi bubble packing, Relentless is the better album by far I think, if only to hear Neil Tennant do "white boy rap"...

Greatest Hits, Inherited this from my GF, a good package.

Original CD single of So Hard, probably my fave PSB track ever, great use of analogue synths

Original CD single remix of So Hard, by the KLF, very hard to get a hold of, great remix

Some other CD single whose name escapes me at the minute, blue cover and it had a remix of "music for boys" on it by Altern8, forget the original track...

Triton4 · 25th September 2003, 09:50

Just out of my curiosity, are Pet Shop Boys a Newcastle-based band?

Mr Jones · 25th September 2003, 10:44

No, I think they are more southern England, not sure exactly,I may be wront, One things for sure neither of them speak with the very distinctive Newcastle accent.

Cylob · 25th September 2003, 15:15

Quote:

Originally posted by Mr Jones
Some other CD single whose name escapes me at the minute, blue cover and it had a remix of "music for boys" on it by Altern8, forget the original track...

DJ Culture by any chance?

Question 'seer: If I obtain the Barry White track will it ruin "Positive Role Model" or enhance it? It could be a risk you know. And it won't change my views on Ally McBeal. I don't know how you got into it.

Mr Jones · 25th September 2003, 16:32

DJ Culture, that's the one, remixed by The Grid if I remember rightly...

Triton4 · 25th September 2003, 17:12

Quote:

Originally posted by Mr Jones
No, I think they are more southern England, not sure exactly,I may be wront, One things for sure neither of them speak with the very distinctive Newcastle accent.

I just got to know that the Pet Shop Boys aren't a localized UK band (unlike FGTH from Liverpool). One of the artists, Neil Tennant, was Newcastle-born and raised though.

Twilightseer · 26th September 2003, 10:57

Quote:

Originally posted by Cylob
DJ Culture by any chance?

Question 'seer: If I obtain the Barry White track will it ruin "Positive Role Model" or enhance it? It could be a risk you know. And it won't change my views on Ally McBeal. I don't know how you got into it.

Well, one thing is for sure : Tennant and White have radically opposite voices

Tennant uses a lot of falsetto while White has a very deep voice. I don't see how it would ruin the effect though, and heck if you don't like it, just delete it from you hd

Cylob · 26th September 2003, 11:09

Once downloading a track I can't just delete it! No sir! If I don't like it on a first listen it'll be classed as a B-Side. If I still don't like it on a second listen it'll become a C-Side. If I don't like it on a third listen, then it'll be wiped out and stamped on.

I will take a chance on Barry White's track, I'm amazed the PSB's could derive anything from him.

Twilightseer · 9th October 2003, 10:01

WOW

Thanks to amazon.fr, I've just had an opportunity (let's make lots of money !) to flesh out my PSB discography : bought Please, Behaviour and Bilingual in their rereleased editions (each record accompanied by a bonus disc containing the b-sides and remixes of the era) for € 9 each.

6 PSB albums for just € 27, yay for me

I'll post opinions on these albums later.

Cylob · 9th October 2003, 15:02

I may check out some PSB B-Sides as well. I have a good supplier.

Love Comes Quickly and Before have been played alot recently. Such good tracks.

NJK · 9th October 2003, 21:36

somehow i always end up listening to "rent" is by far my most fav pet shop boys track - reget i only have one album - the singles collection- used to have more of them but tapes and magnetic fields (put them on top of my vcr) don't go together - all tapes lying there are now blank tapes

Cylob · 10th October 2003, 05:41

Yes, all forms of magnetic media are flawed. When you think about it, it was a freakish invention anyway. Videos don't respond well to extremes in temperature - yet I have 1,000 up in the atic. Oh well!!! Probably 1,000 blank tapes by now.

Cylob · 28th October 2003, 09:35

Who likes 'Very'??? Not me (for one). The PSB's crappest album?

Yes.

Twilightseer · 28th October 2003, 09:39

I do

I really like Very, in fact, it was the first studio album I got (I first got "Discography" then "Alternative"). Some of my absolute faves by PSB are on it : "Dreaming Of The Queen", "The Theatre", "Young Offender".
Of course, some songs are much less good (One In A Million, A Different Point Of View, To Speak Is A Sin) but heck

In fact, I think Very is much better than Behaviour (which is often deemed PSB's best)

Cylob · 28th October 2003, 10:05

Very was the 206th CD I purchased, probably one of the most mundane albums in my 1994 lot. However, I haven't listened to it this side of the millennium, I may have missed something (always possible).

I rate Introspective to be their greatest hour (head and shoulders above the rest). One of the best albums of all time?

sidd · 28th October 2003, 10:08

ive only got:

I couldnt pick between the three..

god knows why i havnt bothered getting the rest.

Twilightseer · 28th October 2003, 10:20

I realize I forgot to give my opinions about the albums I bought recently (see above posts)

So here we go

- "Please" : PSB's first album released in 1986. The first half of the record contains all the kick-ass songs which started PSB's fame : West End Girls, Opportunities, Love Comes Quickly, Suburbia and the lesser known but excellent Two Divided By Zero. The second half of the record sounds more outdated especially the synths on Tonight Is Forever and the drum sounds on Violence (This version is terrible compared to the superb "Hacienda version" on Alternative. Still, there is a nice piano/voice song called Later Tonight which is beautiful. Excellent album anyway

- "Behaviour" : PSB's fourth album released in 1990. This one was a bit of a letdown actually (

). It is often hailed as PSB's best but I found the songs kind of weak on it. The record starts excellently with one of their best songs ever "Being Boring", followed by another very good one "This Must Be The Place I Waited Years To Leave" but then it falls flat until "My October Symphony" arrives. "Nervously" isn't very good either but the penultimate song "The End Of The World" is very catchy (so much it seems a bit out of place on this record). The finale with "Jealousy" is really the saving grace here, along with the previous song. A so-so record but of course, average stuff by PSB still beats the crap of most stuff you can hear anyway.

- "Bilingual" : PSB's sixthalbum released in 1996. I didn't get this one at the time because I had bought a copy of the 'Before' single which was very cheap (wrong label from the store

). I hated the song at the time so I didn't bother getting the album. It was a mistake. Bilingual is very good, especially if you like Spanish/Brazilian sounds but it's an odd album because of its sadness mixed with music usually associated with parties and happy stuff. Great moments : "Metamorphosis", "Electricity" (a rap track !) "It always comes a surprise" (fabulous love song). Suprisingly, the poppier tracks " A red letter day", "Up against it" are not necessarily the best, but "To Step Aside" is fantastic. And I now like 'Before'

. Only bad track is "Saturday Night Forever", wonder how this one made it. Bilingual really sounds like a one-off but it's well worth it.

Cylob · 28th October 2003, 10:46

Before is such a good track 'seer. Top quality.

I'm not so sure about the rest of Bilingual though....

sidd - I'd strongly recommend Disco 3 (a gem). Then you'll have the 3 best (in order):

Actually
Instrospective
Disco 3

Sorted.

orac · 28th October 2003, 12:12

nah

Introspective
Relentless

and the sub is Disco 3

sidd · 28th October 2003, 19:57

ok, ill hunt for it next time i feel like listening to that sort of thing.. i cant get out of augie march mode right now..

Cylob · 29th October 2003, 09:10

You still have just the 3 tracks?

sidd · 29th October 2003, 11:16

nope, i found both their albums on soulseek

btw cylob, if your searches in soulseek arnt working, put a star before each word, like "*augie *march". Works like a charm. Who knows why.

Cylob · 29th October 2003, 11:32

Cheers sidd.

You're worth your weight in kryptonite.

sidd · 29th October 2003, 19:16

np: flaming lips - waiting for superman

Cylob · 31st October 2003, 10:37

Tried it (to no ovail). But then I didn't use the quotes. Hmmm. At the minute I'm not searching at all, I just browse other users' files. It's a case of 'I'll have this album now, and that one later'.... You get to know people's tastes and who's got what.

When I'm sorted I'll be sharing rare tracks and nothing else. For instance, there must be all manner of PSB b-sides and live material around. Videos even.

orac · 31st October 2003, 13:44

the PSB boys double album called Alternative.. is all b-sides - 30 tracks... mmmm its in a "Cylob friendly format" in my big cd case... you can borrow...

sidd · 31st October 2003, 14:30

hmm.. i meant it without the quotes anyway. Its probably all n my head, but it seems to be working for me.

I dont mind anymore... now i have augie march on CD, im content for a week or so.

Serious man, you really have to get into this band. The lyrics are so well thought out. When i got the second album and looked at the linear notes i just flipped. All the lyrics are written out like its poetry. There is even a first line reference at the end.

Cylob · 31st October 2003, 21:00

I did search for Augie March (3 or 4 times). Came out empty-handed.

I'll try again over the weekend, hopefully the music gods will be shining over my street. I don't give up easilly.

orac, cheers for the PSB b-sides.

Twilightseer · 3rd November 2003, 07:45

Alternative is fabulous, some of the best PSB songs are on there

23rd September 2003, 16:50	#1
Cylob Forum Music King (Forum King) Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: The Future Posts: 7,175	Pet Shop Boys Any thoughts on the muscular petshop boys? What's your favourite album? Mine (without hesitance): Also, has everyone got Disco 3 yet??? If not, why??? Being Disco 3-less is a tragedy. Secret Snacker & Accomplished Pen Thief At:

23rd September 2003, 21:21	#4
Cylob Forum Music King (Forum King) Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: The Future Posts: 7,175	Perhaps the thieves didn't fancy the nobbly bits (sorry I couldn't resist a pun). Wholesale theft of CD's should be a capital offense (it probably is in Texas). Good album BTW. I have the rare blue dimply case. Secret Snacker & Accomplished Pen Thief At:

24th September 2003, 15:27	#9
Cylob Forum Music King (Forum King) Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: The Future Posts: 7,175	Positive Role Model. What quality. I must give it some airplay, it's a great track for Halo or any social occasion. Infectious definitely. Which Barry White song then 'seer??? I'm ignorant of his work. He was the large black guy who ate raw liver right? Secret Snacker & Accomplished Pen Thief At:

26th September 2003, 11:09	#19
Cylob Forum Music King (Forum King) Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: The Future Posts: 7,175	Once downloading a track I can't just delete it! No sir! If I don't like it on a first listen it'll be classed as a B-Side. If I still don't like it on a second listen it'll become a C-Side. If I don't like it on a third listen, then it'll be wiped out and stamped on. I will take a chance on Barry White's track, I'm amazed the PSB's could derive anything from him. Secret Snacker & Accomplished Pen Thief At:

9th October 2003, 15:02	#21
Cylob Forum Music King (Forum King) Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: The Future Posts: 7,175	I may check out some PSB B-Sides as well. I have a good supplier. Love Comes Quickly and Before have been played alot recently. Such good tracks. Secret Snacker & Accomplished Pen Thief At:

23rd September 2003, 18:10	#2
Triton4 Major Dude Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: CA Posts: 1,307	My favourite PSB albums are: 1. Actually 2. Nightlife

23rd September 2003, 20:50	#3
ShyShy Amazon Bush Woman Forum Queen Join Date: May 2003 Location: The Sticks, Queensland Posts: 8,066	Sadly this is the only one to have made it out of Texas.

24th September 2003, 08:41	#5
orac Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: the past Posts: 127	Introspective Relentless (limited edition dance album that came with Very) Behaviour nearly makes the mark, disco 3 is very good if you remove the apalling Try it - but it does resort to banging towards the end.. and then has a piano track (London). PSB are great when doing more dance orientated stuff - Release with guitars, didn't work for me at all..

24th September 2003, 15:04	#6
Twilightseer Frenchoderator Join Date: May 2000 Location: Lavabo, fond du couloir, 3è porte à droite Posts: 6,309	Haven't heard all of their albums, but Very is excellent. And yes, Disco 3 is superb, so is Alternative (b-side compilation)

24th September 2003, 15:13	#8
Twilightseer Frenchoderator Join Date: May 2000 Location: Lavabo, fond du couloir, 3è porte à droite Posts: 6,309	I really like Blank & Jones' version of Home And Dry Try It was also a very good song, my fave song on the album is probably Positive Role Model because it's so infectious and there's this awesome sample of a Barry White song (which was widely used in Ally Mc Beal, take that Cylob ) Only track I hated on disco 3 was the remix of Sexy Northerner, plain awful.

25th September 2003, 07:35	#10
Twilightseer Frenchoderator Join Date: May 2000 Location: Lavabo, fond du couloir, 3è porte à droite Posts: 6,309	The song PSB sampled was one of White's major hit called " You're the first, the last, my everything"

25th September 2003, 07:42	#11
orac Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: the past Posts: 127	we had a new testing server at work and they were looking for names for it.. I said jokingly Barry White and thats what it was called - they put a big picture of him as wallpaper..

25th September 2003, 07:44	#12
Mr Jones Nothing to say... Join Date: Sep 2000 Location: UK Posts: 23,098	The only PSB stuff in my collection is as follows.. Original Disco album, on cassette of all things, amusing story connected with this, unprintable here sadly Very Relentless, the super limited double edition of Very with the dance album that's mentioned above in wierd flexi bubble packing, Relentless is the better album by far I think, if only to hear Neil Tennant do "white boy rap"... Greatest Hits, Inherited this from my GF, a good package. Original CD single of So Hard, probably my fave PSB track ever, great use of analogue synths Original CD single remix of So Hard, by the KLF, very hard to get a hold of, great remix Some other CD single whose name escapes me at the minute, blue cover and it had a remix of "music for boys" on it by Altern8, forget the original track...

25th September 2003, 09:50	#13
Triton4 Major Dude Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: CA Posts: 1,307	Just out of my curiosity, are Pet Shop Boys a Newcastle-based band?

25th September 2003, 10:44	#14
Mr Jones Nothing to say... Join Date: Sep 2000 Location: UK Posts: 23,098	No, I think they are more southern England, not sure exactly,I may be wront, One things for sure neither of them speak with the very distinctive Newcastle accent.

25th September 2003, 16:32	#16
Mr Jones Nothing to say... Join Date: Sep 2000 Location: UK Posts: 23,098	DJ Culture, that's the one, remixed by The Grid if I remember rightly...

9th October 2003, 10:01	#20
Twilightseer Frenchoderator Join Date: May 2000 Location: Lavabo, fond du couloir, 3è porte à droite Posts: 6,309	WOW Thanks to amazon.fr, I've just had an opportunity (let's make lots of money !) to flesh out my PSB discography : bought Please, Behaviour and Bilingual in their rereleased editions (each record accompanied by a bonus disc containing the b-sides and remixes of the era) for € 9 each. 6 PSB albums for just € 27, yay for me I'll post opinions on these albums later.

9th October 2003, 21:36	#22
NJK FRISIAN (MOD) Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: in a house Posts: 16,104	somehow i always end up listening to "rent" is by far my most fav pet shop boys track - reget i only have one album - the singles collection- used to have more of them but tapes and magnetic fields (put them on top of my vcr) don't go together - all tapes lying there are now blank tapes Each Thursday a new show on Celtica Radio with Darkwave music. WINAMP SHOUTCAST

10th October 2003, 05:41	#23
Cylob Forum Music King (Forum King) Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: The Future Posts: 7,175	Yes, all forms of magnetic media are flawed. When you think about it, it was a freakish invention anyway. Videos don't respond well to extremes in temperature - yet I have 1,000 up in the atic. Oh well!!! Probably 1,000 blank tapes by now. Secret Snacker & Accomplished Pen Thief At:

28th October 2003, 09:35	#24
Cylob Forum Music King (Forum King) Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: The Future Posts: 7,175	Who likes 'Very'??? Not me (for one). The PSB's crappest album? Yes. Secret Snacker & Accomplished Pen Thief At:

28th October 2003, 09:39	#25
Twilightseer Frenchoderator Join Date: May 2000 Location: Lavabo, fond du couloir, 3è porte à droite Posts: 6,309	I do I really like Very, in fact, it was the first studio album I got (I first got "Discography" then "Alternative"). Some of my absolute faves by PSB are on it : "Dreaming Of The Queen", "The Theatre", "Young Offender". Of course, some songs are much less good (One In A Million, A Different Point Of View, To Speak Is A Sin) but heck In fact, I think Very is much better than Behaviour (which is often deemed PSB's best)

28th October 2003, 10:05	#26
Cylob Forum Music King (Forum King) Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: The Future Posts: 7,175	Very was the 206th CD I purchased, probably one of the most mundane albums in my 1994 lot. However, I haven't listened to it this side of the millennium, I may have missed something (always possible). I rate Introspective to be their greatest hour (head and shoulders above the rest). One of the best albums of all time? Secret Snacker & Accomplished Pen Thief At:

28th October 2003, 10:08	#27
sidd Major Dude Join Date: May 2003 Location: Australia Posts: 1,353	ive only got: I couldnt pick between the three.. god knows why i havnt bothered getting the rest.

28th October 2003, 10:20	#28
Twilightseer Frenchoderator Join Date: May 2000 Location: Lavabo, fond du couloir, 3è porte à droite Posts: 6,309	I realize I forgot to give my opinions about the albums I bought recently (see above posts) So here we go - "Please" : PSB's first album released in 1986. The first half of the record contains all the kick-ass songs which started PSB's fame : West End Girls, Opportunities, Love Comes Quickly, Suburbia and the lesser known but excellent Two Divided By Zero. The second half of the record sounds more outdated especially the synths on Tonight Is Forever and the drum sounds on Violence (This version is terrible compared to the superb "Hacienda version" on Alternative. Still, there is a nice piano/voice song called Later Tonight which is beautiful. Excellent album anyway - "Behaviour" : PSB's fourth album released in 1990. This one was a bit of a letdown actually ( ). It is often hailed as PSB's best but I found the songs kind of weak on it. The record starts excellently with one of their best songs ever "Being Boring", followed by another very good one "This Must Be The Place I Waited Years To Leave" but then it falls flat until "My October Symphony" arrives. "Nervously" isn't very good either but the penultimate song "The End Of The World" is very catchy (so much it seems a bit out of place on this record). The finale with "Jealousy" is really the saving grace here, along with the previous song. A so-so record but of course, average stuff by PSB still beats the crap of most stuff you can hear anyway. - "Bilingual" : PSB's sixthalbum released in 1996. I didn't get this one at the time because I had bought a copy of the 'Before' single which was very cheap (wrong label from the store ). I hated the song at the time so I didn't bother getting the album. It was a mistake. Bilingual is very good, especially if you like Spanish/Brazilian sounds but it's an odd album because of its sadness mixed with music usually associated with parties and happy stuff. Great moments : "Metamorphosis", "Electricity" (a rap track !) "It always comes a surprise" (fabulous love song). Suprisingly, the poppier tracks " A red letter day", "Up against it" are not necessarily the best, but "To Step Aside" is fantastic. And I now like 'Before' . Only bad track is "Saturday Night Forever", wonder how this one made it. Bilingual really sounds like a one-off but it's well worth it.

28th October 2003, 10:46	#29
Cylob Forum Music King (Forum King) Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: The Future Posts: 7,175	Before is such a good track 'seer. Top quality. I'm not so sure about the rest of Bilingual though.... sidd - I'd strongly recommend Disco 3 (a gem). Then you'll have the 3 best (in order): Actually Instrospective Disco 3 Sorted. Secret Snacker & Accomplished Pen Thief At:

28th October 2003, 12:12	#30
orac Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: the past Posts: 127	nah Introspective Relentless and the sub is Disco 3

28th October 2003, 19:57	#31
sidd Major Dude Join Date: May 2003 Location: Australia Posts: 1,353	ok, ill hunt for it next time i feel like listening to that sort of thing.. i cant get out of augie march mode right now..

29th October 2003, 09:10	#32
Cylob Forum Music King (Forum King) Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: The Future Posts: 7,175	You still have just the 3 tracks? Secret Snacker & Accomplished Pen Thief At:

29th October 2003, 11:16	#33
sidd Major Dude Join Date: May 2003 Location: Australia Posts: 1,353	nope, i found both their albums on soulseek btw cylob, if your searches in soulseek arnt working, put a star before each word, like "augie march". Works like a charm. Who knows why.

29th October 2003, 11:32	#34
Cylob Forum Music King (Forum King) Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: The Future Posts: 7,175	Cheers sidd. You're worth your weight in kryptonite. Secret Snacker & Accomplished Pen Thief At:

29th October 2003, 19:16	#35
sidd Major Dude Join Date: May 2003 Location: Australia Posts: 1,353	np: flaming lips - waiting for superman

31st October 2003, 10:37	#36
Cylob Forum Music King (Forum King) Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: The Future Posts: 7,175	Tried it (to no ovail). But then I didn't use the quotes. Hmmm. At the minute I'm not searching at all, I just browse other users' files. It's a case of 'I'll have this album now, and that one later'.... You get to know people's tastes and who's got what. When I'm sorted I'll be sharing rare tracks and nothing else. For instance, there must be all manner of PSB b-sides and live material around. Videos even. Secret Snacker & Accomplished Pen Thief At:

31st October 2003, 13:44	#37
orac Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: the past Posts: 127	the PSB boys double album called Alternative.. is all b-sides - 30 tracks... mmmm its in a "Cylob friendly format" in my big cd case... you can borrow...

31st October 2003, 14:30	#38
sidd Major Dude Join Date: May 2003 Location: Australia Posts: 1,353	hmm.. i meant it without the quotes anyway. Its probably all n my head, but it seems to be working for me. I dont mind anymore... now i have augie march on CD, im content for a week or so. Serious man, you really have to get into this band. The lyrics are so well thought out. When i got the second album and looked at the linear notes i just flipped. All the lyrics are written out like its poetry. There is even a first line reference at the end.

31st October 2003, 21:00	#39
Cylob Forum Music King (Forum King) Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: The Future Posts: 7,175	I did search for Augie March (3 or 4 times). Came out empty-handed. I'll try again over the weekend, hopefully the music gods will be shining over my street. I don't give up easilly. orac, cheers for the PSB b-sides. Secret Snacker & Accomplished Pen Thief At: