Old 26th September 2003, 02:14   #1
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Downloading mp3's - help please !!!

1)I want to RE-download my whole mp3 collection in a higher sound
quality eg.320 kbps

2)Are there any programs (or addons/plugins to programs such as Kazaa
Lite) that allow for filtering searches. So when I do a search for
a song, only the high quality ones show.

3)What factors make for high quality mp3's ??? other than kbps

Thankyou in advance.


PS: I just bought the NOMAD Jukebox Zen NX, it is awesome.
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Old 26th September 2003, 02:19   #2
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why 320kbs? 190 is industry standard and plus 320 is umm disk space hoggers, another thing is Kazaa will get your butt sued by the RIAA (more or less)

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Old 26th September 2003, 02:22   #3
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We don't encourage downloading copyrighted material. 320 is overkill for all but a very few types of audio, although I'd disagree that 192 is the "industry standard". It's just another arbitrary number that a certain number of people use. I personally prefer -alt-presset standard when I encode my own music. If you're going to download copyright free material, try shareaza.

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Old 26th September 2003, 02:22   #4
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1) 320 kbps isn't really necessary, 128 kbps to 192 kbps is already good enough sound quality.

2) There's already a filter option built into kazaa lite under "more search options>"

3) When you get to 128 kbps and upwards, the factors that make up sound quality are all in your head.
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Old 26th September 2003, 02:23   #5
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192 is enough

and I just went to that nomad site and it looks really cool

I want one
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Old 26th September 2003, 02:24   #6
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Nice one there Gonzotek
You been smokin my shit again?
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lol, its in your head. Like what was that bum bum bum!

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I can clearly and reliably tell the difference between 128 and 160. I can not so often tell the difference between 160 and 192. --aps yields higher bitrates than that, because I hope to not be able to tell the difference between the real cd and the mp3 when I eventually get a good music server + hifi system to listen to it all on.

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Old 26th September 2003, 02:37   #9
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Quote:
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We don't encourage downloading copyrighted material. 320 is overkill for all but a very few types of audio, although I'd disagree that 192 is the "industry standard". It's just another arbitrary number that a certain number of people use. I personally prefer -alt-presset standard when I encode my own music. If you're going to download copyright free material, try shareaza.
sorry, I never realized that.
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1) 320 kbps isn't really necessary, 128 kbps to 192 kbps is already good enough sound quality.

2) There's already a filter option built into kazaa lite under "more search options>"

3) When you get to 128 kbps and upwards, the factors that make up sound quality are all in your head.
ty for your help, it worked.
forgive my stupidity.
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I was refering to the renoucement of illegal downloading while in the same post refering dink here to a site that has a program that lets you do just that.
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Old 26th September 2003, 03:12   #12
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The ability of a useful tool to be used for something unlawful doesn't negate the tool's usefulness.

There's a lot of useful non-illegal things about shareaza. Esp. when you compare it to the profiteering kazaa and some other p2p vendors. Shareaza doesn't have a pro version nor does it serve ads or paid-for links. It supports bittorrent, which is mainly marketed at legal, (semi)official, file distribution, and also makes a decent general http download manager.

[edit]And non-copyrighted and "copyleft"ed material does exist, btw [/edit]

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Old 26th September 2003, 03:17   #13
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fancy gift wrapping for one more way for me to be able to steal someone elses product
but I take the high road
I only use p2p to download porn
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Old 26th September 2003, 03:24   #14
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how come the same song, all at 320 vary soomuch in size?
what causes this?
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3) When you get to 128 kbps and upwards, the factors that make up sound quality are all in your head.
you lie.
there's a major difference between 128 and 160. 192 is "near CD quality" but I can occasionally tell a difference between 192 and 256

I'll stick with ogg at 192.
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Old 26th September 2003, 03:44   #16
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hey how good does ogg play? I always wondered if it really made any big difference and also what size the files are.
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128 ogg is something between 192 and 256 mp3
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Old 26th September 2003, 12:28   #18
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If you're using specific bitrates in ogg, unless you're broadcasting you're doing it wrong. Ogg uses variable bitrate quality settings, you pick the quality level that sounds good for your needs, and it uses as many (few) bits as it needs to make it sound right. It isn't as effiecent in cbr mode.

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160k, LAME encoder in CDex. If there is a better-sounding MP3, I haven't heard it. You get very, very good quality sound with rich vocals (tracks like "At Least We Tried" by Moby, for example, sound excellent) without paying too high a price in terms of disk space.

If I was really bothered about sound quality, I wouldn't use MP3 at all.


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160k, LAME encoder in CDex. If there is a better-sounding MP3, I haven't heard it. You get very, very good quality sound with rich vocals (tracks like "At Least We Tried" by Moby, for example, sound excellent) without paying too high a price in terms of disk space.

If I was really bothered about sound quality, I wouldn't use MP3 at all.
Now re-rip that track and re-encode to q5 ogg vorbis.

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No. If I did that and decided it was better, I'd have to re-rip all my CD's. For the tiniest of audible differences. Fuck that.

Like I said, if anything bothered me at that bitrate, I might as well use lossless.


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another thing is Kazaa will get your butt sued by the RIAA (more or less)
Your chances of being sued by the RIAA while using Kazaa are about the same as being struck by lightning. Something like 30 million people are on the FastTrack network at any given time. The RIAA is only sueing a couple thousand at most. And if you're smart about it, you reduce your risk even more. For instance, don't leave Kazaa on all the time, and limit the number of files you share to somewhere under 100.

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Your chances of being sued by the RIAA while using Kazaa are about the same as being struck by lightning. Something like 30 million people are on the FastTrack network at any given time. The RIAA is only sueing a couple thousand at most. And if you're smart about it, you reduce your risk even more. For instance, don't leave Kazaa on all the time, and limit the number of files you share to somewhere under 100.
They can only sue Americans...lolz
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