what is taken into consideration about those who voluntarily paid for winamp v1 or v2

01000101 · 23rd October 2003, 23:17

I voluntarily paid $20 for winamp v1.92 back in the day. will I have to pay again for winamp pro?

P.S. I also bought Justin's book.

mikm · 23rd October 2003, 23:18

Yes.

01000101 · 23rd October 2003, 23:19

that hardly seems fair.

Fickle · 23rd October 2003, 23:27

Hey, man, sucks for you. Really, I kind of feel bad for y'all, but you don't understand that some things have happened since Winamp was last unfreeware. Also, you don't have to get Winamp Pro. You don't have to get it. YOU DON'T HAVE TO GET IT.

But Fickle, I want CD Ripping at full capacity!
Right, but you don't need it. You can just have Winamp.
But Fickle, You don't listen. I want it, but I don't want to give anything for it.
To generate revenue so that people stop getting shitcanned, Winamp now has advanced features that you don't have to have, that you will have to pay for.

Look, to me it's like buying a toaster. You can either get the toaster, or get the toaster with a scope mounted on it so you can watch your toast from a distance. Now, to me, that'd be cool as hell. But the thing is,
YOU DON'T HAVE TO GET IT.
YOU DON'T HAVE TO GET IT.
YOU DON'T HAVE TO GET IT.
YOU DON'T HAVE TO GET IT.
YOU DON'T HAVE TO GET IT.
YOU DON'T HAVE TO GET IT.
YOU DON'T HAVE TO GET IT.

mikm · 23rd October 2003, 23:34

Winamp is not free for Nullsoft/Time Warner. Every download requires fees paid to developers. The fees for the advanced ripping/burning would be too much for Nullsoft to absorb. Thus, they charge what they would have to pay the developers.

deathazre · 23rd October 2003, 23:49

not sure if this has been said before, but... how about another pro version, with just full-speed ripping/burning, for those of us who use vorbis, AAC, or whatnot? I'd be perfectly willing to pay a few bucks for that.

godoncrack · 23rd October 2003, 23:50

GAYol is hurtin guys
And things are only gonna get worse

01000101 · 24th October 2003, 00:11

out of curiousity, how many of you naysayers actually paid voluntarily like I did?

I wanted to pay for winamp because I found it useful.

Viper007Bond · 24th October 2003, 00:28

They aren't charging for Winamp 5 Pro 'cause they want to make money, as was said, it's to cover the license fee. Nullsoft is owned by AOL and it's not like AOL wants to make money either giving out so many coasters.

01000101 · 24th October 2003, 00:37

I was referring to dickle being so rude

01000101 · 24th October 2003, 00:39

oops, d is so close to f

ElChevelle · 24th October 2003, 02:26

I know where your 20 bucks went and damn she sucked that llama dry

Trigear · 24th October 2003, 02:29

Quote:

Originally posted by 01000101
oops, d is so close to f

f is for flaming and that makes you the weakest link. goodbye.

Fickle · 24th October 2003, 02:31

Quote:

Originally posted by 01000101
I was referring to dickle being so rude

No, I didn't pay for it. Because it was free when I got it.

I will pay for Winamp Pro when it comes off.

And yes, I have a penis. Thanks for noticing.

liquidmotion · 24th October 2003, 04:57

Quote:

Originally posted by 01000101
P.S. I also bought Justin's book.

huh?

BullGawD · 24th October 2003, 06:01

this? (this too ebook version)

Google's a wonderful thing.

[edit]

BTW

Not to rub it in or anything, 01000101, but this line sums the situation up nicely:

17 used & new from $2.98

depreciation: good thing or bad thing? YOU DECIDE!!

[/edit]

will · 24th October 2003, 06:42

Quote:

Originally posted by 01000101
I voluntarily paid $20 for winamp v1.92 back in the day. will I have to pay again for winamp pro?

P.S. I also bought Justin's book.

Quote:

From the Winamp Pro FAQ
I paid for the shareware version of Winamp a while back before it went free, why do I have to pay again?
Because this is Winamp Pro. If you paid for the Winamp shareware you can still use Winamp, there is no pressure to upgrade.

Oni-Dracula · 24th October 2003, 07:08

Quote:

Originally posted by Fickle
Hey, man, sucks for you. Really, I kind of feel bad for y'all, but you don't understand that some things have happened since Winamp was last unfreeware. Also, you don't have to get Winamp Pro. You don't have to get it. YOU DON'T HAVE TO GET IT.

But Fickle, I want CD Ripping at full capacity!
Right, but you don't need it. You can just have Winamp.
But Fickle, You don't listen. I want it, but I don't want to give anything for it.
To generate revenue so that people stop getting shitcanned, Winamp now has advanced features that you don't have to have, that you will have to pay for.

Look, to me it's like buying a toaster. You can either get the toaster, or get the toaster with a scope mounted on it so you can watch your toast from a distance. Now, to me, that'd be cool as hell. But the thing is,
YOU DON'T HAVE TO GET IT.
YOU DON'T HAVE TO GET IT.
YOU DON'T HAVE TO GET IT.
YOU DON'T HAVE TO GET IT.
YOU DON'T HAVE TO GET IT.
YOU DON'T HAVE TO GET IT.
YOU DON'T HAVE TO GET IT.

<3 fickle
^^

Quote:

I paid for the shareware version of Winamp a while back before it went free, why do I have to pay again?
Because this is Winamp Pro. If you paid for the Winamp shareware you can still use Winamp, there is no pressure to upgrade.

WITH NO OBLIGATION!!! ONLY (39.95 + shipping and processing

Twilightseer · 24th October 2003, 09:12

As they say, if you want something done, it's better to do it yourself so allow me to quote myself from this thread

Quote:

Originally posted by Twilightseer
Winamp 5 kicks ass so far and the PRO features are useless considering that there are kick ass free programs that will handle them much better ( CDEX for ripping and encoding, BurnAtOnce for burning ) so it's all good

If you don't get that after that and fickle's post, then I don't know what to do.

Viper007Bond · 24th October 2003, 10:28

Quote:

Originally posted by 01000101
oops, d is so close to f

Look!

It's a magic button!

Russ · 24th October 2003, 10:47

I love this place.

"Oh, no, it's not Winamp version 3.0 it's Winamp3 version 1.0, that's why it's so crap..."

"You paid for Winamp... but this is Winamp Pro"

It's as if people are trying to find some elabourate and ridiculous excuse.

Pure and simple: That was 1996. This is now. Times change, get used to it. Yes, Nullsoft have to pay a $2 license fee for every copy of the MP3 encoder sold. Yes, they'll still make a profit. Yes, I haven't a clue where that profit'll go

.

nybergh · 24th October 2003, 11:57

if i've understand everything right it's all about the licencing fees for the MP3-encoder.
But who the hell would actually wan't to use the WA-cdripper?
CDex is better as a ripper...

Oni-Dracula · 24th October 2003, 17:14

sell ( P ) Pronunciation Key (sl)
v. sold, (sld) sell·ing, sells
v. tr.

1. To exchange or deliver for money or its equivalent.

So why do they have to pay for something that they could give away for free?

mark · 24th October 2003, 22:21

Quote:

Originally posted by nybergh
if i've understand everything right it's all about the licencing fees for the MP3-encoder.
But who the hell would actually wan't to use the WA-cdripper?
CDex is better as a ripper...

what if winamp WAS as good? I'd rather use it in that case. Is CDex or other ripping/burning software that better? Who knows.
Is Winamp Pro going to be an integrated music solutiont that could rival wmp on all fronts? Hell yeah.

ElChevelle · 24th October 2003, 22:39

There are always alternatives.
That's the great thing about diversity.
Is it going to be as good? Who knows.
Is it going to be more diverse? yes.

nybergh · 25th October 2003, 08:26

Quote:

Originally posted by Nobby Nobbs

Is Winamp Pro going to be an integrated music solutiont that could rival wmp on all fronts? Hell yeah.

Integrated solutions is a bad idea in most cases (I haven't seen a fantastic integrated sollution yet), especially for users who want to have advanced options.

Rellik · 25th October 2003, 18:48

I say it's plenty fair.

Put simply, all the new features in Winamp 5 pro were never in Winamp 1.xx, so why should anyone get a free ride? All I can see is perhaps a small discount for their early support.

And besides, there will still be a free version that has all the features from all the earlier Winamps anyway, plus more.

Hollow · 25th October 2003, 19:06

Quote:

Originally posted by nybergh
Integrated solutions is a bad idea in most cases (I haven't seen a fantastic integrated sollution yet), especially for users who want to have advanced options.

Thats not the point.

deathazre · 25th October 2003, 21:44

Quote:

Originally posted by deathazre
not sure if this has been said before, but... how about another pro version, with just full-speed ripping/burning, for those of us who use vorbis, AAC, or whatnot? I'd be perfectly willing to pay a few bucks for that.

anybody?

Bob the Tomato · 25th October 2003, 22:31

Quote:

Originally posted by Fickle

Look, to me it's like buying a toaster. You can either get the toaster, or get the toaster with a scope mounted on it so you can watch your toast from a distance.

I want one of those. How much are they? I hope they're not as expensive as the frying pan with the LEDs built into the pan, because the lights just melted and I was left short one frying pan.

Twilightseer · 27th October 2003, 08:01

Quote:

Originally posted by Nobby Nobbs
what if winamp WAS as good? I'd rather use it in that case. Is CDex or other ripping/burning software that better? Who knows.
Is Winamp Pro going to be an integrated music solutiont that could rival wmp on all fronts? Hell yeah.

These features (Cd ripping, video support) were added mostly because people wanted them within Winamp for more convenience but hell, I wouldn't rip a CD with winamp, considering that EAC or CDEX offer really secure ripping modes and are dedicated programs that will do the job way better.

zootm · 27th October 2003, 09:23

i know someone who paid for windows 95. does that mean they don't have to pay for XP?

mark · 27th October 2003, 10:16

speaking of CDex, what are the best settings to rip to mp3? (set it up and take a screenshot)

old and quite mad · 27th October 2003, 17:55

Quote:

Originally posted by 01000101
out of curiousity, how many of you naysayers actually paid voluntarily like I did?

I wanted to pay for winamp because I found it useful.

Somewhere (somewhere) I have my "confirmation e-mail" for registering WinAmp version -6 (hey, it was a LOOOONG time ago) for a mighty ten yankee greenbacks.

As you said, useful AND used often.

Trigear · 27th October 2003, 18:00

Quote:

Originally posted by zootm
i know someone who paid for windows 95. does that mean they don't have to pay for XP?

to be fair, NO ONE has to pay for xp

Oni-Dracula · 27th October 2003, 18:35

I paid for XP home upgrade. Then I stuck it in a dark hole somewhere in my room and started using the "other" version.

WHEREamI · 27th October 2003, 19:03

Quote:

Originally posted by Russ
I love this place.

"Oh, no, it's not Winamp version 3.0 it's Winamp3 version 1.0, that's why it's so crap..."

"You paid for Winamp... but this is Winamp Pro"

It's as if people are trying to find some elabourate and ridiculous excuse.

Pure and simple: That was 1996. This is now. Times change, get used to it. Yes, Nullsoft have to pay a $2 license fee for every copy of the MP3 encoder sold. Yes, they'll still make a profit. Yes, I haven't a clue where that profit'll go .

I hope the profits go to Nullsoft so they can work on Winamp3 and release it as it was meant to be. i can't wait for build 500!!!

~WHEREamI

will · 27th October 2003, 19:04

Quote:

Originally posted by WHEREamI
i can't wait for build 500!!!

don't get your hopes up.

Trigear · 27th October 2003, 20:30

go ahead and hold your breath. don't worry if you start to turn purple, that's natural.

Russ · 27th October 2003, 22:57

I can't guarantee you 500. But there might well be a build #499c coming along shortly.

23rd October 2003, 23:17	#1
01000101 Junior Member Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Fort Lauderdale, FL Posts: 7	what is taken into consideration about those who voluntarily paid for winamp v1 or v2 I voluntarily paid $20 for winamp v1.92 back in the day. will I have to pay again for winamp pro? P.S. I also bought Justin's book.

23rd October 2003, 23:18	#2
mikm Major Dude Join Date: May 2001 Location: somewhere else Posts: 1,286	Yes. powered by C₈H₁₀N₄O₂

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mikm Major Dude Join Date: May 2001 Location: somewhere else Posts: 1,286	Winamp is not free for Nullsoft/Time Warner. Every download requires fees paid to developers. The fees for the advanced ripping/burning would be too much for Nullsoft to absorb. Thus, they charge what they would have to pay the developers. powered by C₈H₁₀N₄O₂

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24th October 2003, 00:28	#9
Viper007Bond Major Dude Join Date: May 2002 Location: Portland, OR Life: None Posts: 1,054	They aren't charging for Winamp 5 Pro 'cause they want to make money, as was said, it's to cover the license fee. Nullsoft is owned by AOL and it's not like AOL wants to make money either giving out so many coasters. - Viper007Bond \| Viper007Bond.com

23rd October 2003, 23:19	#3
01000101 Junior Member Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Fort Lauderdale, FL Posts: 7	that hardly seems fair.

23rd October 2003, 23:27	#4
Fickle Butterknife of Justice (Forum King) Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Behind you. Posts: 5,502	Hey, man, sucks for you. Really, I kind of feel bad for y'all, but you don't understand that some things have happened since Winamp was last unfreeware. Also, you don't have to get Winamp Pro. You don't have to get it. YOU DON'T HAVE TO GET IT. But Fickle, I want CD Ripping at full capacity! Right, but you don't need it. You can just have Winamp. But Fickle, You don't listen. I want it, but I don't want to give anything for it. To generate revenue so that people stop getting shitcanned, Winamp now has advanced features that you don't have to have, that you will have to pay for. Look, to me it's like buying a toaster. You can either get the toaster, or get the toaster with a scope mounted on it so you can watch your toast from a distance. Now, to me, that'd be cool as hell. But the thing is, YOU DON'T HAVE TO GET IT. YOU DON'T HAVE TO GET IT. YOU DON'T HAVE TO GET IT. YOU DON'T HAVE TO GET IT. YOU DON'T HAVE TO GET IT. YOU DON'T HAVE TO GET IT. YOU DON'T HAVE TO GET IT. Go read a book without pictures pabook? \| Look, a blog! \| Buy Stuff I Wrote

23rd October 2003, 23:49	#6
deathazre Major Dude Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: behind the wheel of a Cat service truck Posts: 1,847	not sure if this has been said before, but... how about another pro version, with just full-speed ripping/burning, for those of us who use vorbis, AAC, or whatnot? I'd be perfectly willing to pay a few bucks for that.

24th October 2003, 00:11	#8
01000101 Junior Member Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Fort Lauderdale, FL Posts: 7	out of curiousity, how many of you naysayers actually paid voluntarily like I did? I wanted to pay for winamp because I found it useful.

24th October 2003, 00:37	#10
01000101 Junior Member Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Fort Lauderdale, FL Posts: 7	I was referring to dickle being so rude

24th October 2003, 00:39	#11
01000101 Junior Member Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Fort Lauderdale, FL Posts: 7	oops, d is so close to f

24th October 2003, 02:26	#12
ElChevelle Moderator Alumni Join Date: Jun 2000 Location: the MANCANNON! Posts: 22,448	I know where your 20 bucks went and damn she sucked that llama dry

24th October 2003, 06:01	#16
BullGawD Cool Guy. (Forum King) Join Date: Feb 2001 Posts: 2,122	this? (this too ebook version) Google's a wonderful thing. [edit] BTW Not to rub it in or anything, 01000101, but this line sums the situation up nicely: 17 used & new from $2.98 depreciation: good thing or bad thing? YOU DECIDE!! [/edit] ...a blatant person. Last edited by BullGawD; 24th October 2003 at 06:32.

24th October 2003, 10:47	#21
Russ Mostly Harmless (Alumni) Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: UK Posts: 2,319	I love this place. "Oh, no, it's not Winamp version 3.0 it's Winamp3 version 1.0, that's why it's so crap..." "You paid for Winamp... but this is Winamp Pro" It's as if people are trying to find some elabourate and ridiculous excuse. Pure and simple: That was 1996. This is now. Times change, get used to it. Yes, Nullsoft have to pay a $2 license fee for every copy of the MP3 encoder sold. Yes, they'll still make a profit. Yes, I haven't a clue where that profit'll go . For long you live and high you fly, but only if you ride the tide, and balanced on the biggest wave you race towards an early grave. \|Musicbrainz\|Audioscrobbler\|last.fm\|

24th October 2003, 11:57	#22
nybergh Dialup Junkie (Major Dude) Join Date: May 2003 Location: Helsinki, Finland Posts: 1,219	if i've understand everything right it's all about the licencing fees for the MP3-encoder. But who the hell would actually wan't to use the WA-cdripper? CDex is better as a ripper... See also:Radio Paradise, listener supported aac+ stream\|My home outside IRC\|Last.fm

24th October 2003, 17:14	#23
Oni-Dracula Registered User Join Date: Aug 2002 Posts: 1,590	sell ( P ) Pronunciation Key (sl) v. sold, (sld) sell·ing, sells v. tr. 1. To exchange or deliver for money or its equivalent. So why do they have to pay for something that they could give away for free?

24th October 2003, 22:39	#25
ElChevelle Moderator Alumni Join Date: Jun 2000 Location: the MANCANNON! Posts: 22,448	There are always alternatives. That's the great thing about diversity. Is it going to be as good? Who knows. Is it going to be more diverse? yes.

25th October 2003, 18:48	#27
Rellik Major Dude Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: localhost Posts: 1,099	I say it's plenty fair. Put simply, all the new features in Winamp 5 pro were never in Winamp 1.xx, so why should anyone get a free ride? All I can see is perhaps a small discount for their early support. And besides, there will still be a free version that has all the features from all the earlier Winamps anyway, plus more.

27th October 2003, 09:23	#32
zootm Forum King Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: the nether reaches of bonnie scotland Posts: 13,375	i know someone who paid for windows 95. does that mean they don't have to pay for XP?

27th October 2003, 10:16	#33
mark Forum King Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Norn Ir'nd, leek... Posts: 6,287	speaking of CDex, what are the best settings to rip to mp3? (set it up and take a screenshot)

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Oni-Dracula Registered User Join Date: Aug 2002 Posts: 1,590	I paid for XP home upgrade. Then I stuck it in a dark hole somewhere in my room and started using the "other" version.

27th October 2003, 20:30	#39
Trigear bear! Join Date: Jun 2002 Posts: 3,426	go ahead and hold your breath. don't worry if you start to turn purple, that's natural.

27th October 2003, 22:57	#40
Russ Mostly Harmless (Alumni) Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: UK Posts: 2,319	I can't guarantee you 500. But there might well be a build #499c coming along shortly. For long you live and high you fly, but only if you ride the tide, and balanced on the biggest wave you race towards an early grave. \|Musicbrainz\|Audioscrobbler\|last.fm\|

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