Mtv europe 2003 music awards

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Can someone explain them to me?

WHAT THE HELL IS GOING ON!!!

Bands like:

Led Zeppelin
Doors
Deep Purple
Rainbow
Scorpions
Judas Priest
Queen
April Wine
Black Sabbath
and the like Too many great european rock bands to list here.

those type of bands use to RULE europe.

WHAT THE FU*K IS GOING ON!!!

Doesn't anyone ROCK anymore or is Mtv getting paid to shovel this shit to young minds full of mush?

BEST ALBUM
Justin Timberlake - Justified
O.k. who here owns this album? I want to know.

BEST GROUP
Coldplay
Best Group? In all of europe? I don't think so.
"Coldplay won best group, but were not there to accept the award. Lead singer Chris Martin was with girlfriend Gwyneth Paltrow."

BEST ROCK
The White Stripes
Best Rock? Best rock! Best rock! Best Rock!!!!!! Is this for real? I know their music. It's not the best. It's not even really ROCK!
For BEST ROCK "Queens Of the Stone Age" were not even a Nominee


BEST NEW ACT
Sean Paul
Well it's about time a Rude Boy Jamaican got some props overthere.

BEST HIP HOP
Eminem
Haven't we all had enough of young white angry punks on dope.

BEST FEMALE
Christina Aguilera - Just shut up and cover up your phat ass.

"Aguilera, wearing a nun's habit and surrounded by a choir, opened the awards. She removed the habit to reveal a skimpy top and leather chaps, breaking into the chorus of her song "Dirrty."

"This is my show and if anyone's going to be getting the award for showing the most skin, it's me," Aguilera told the audience."

If that's the only way you can get a guy to buy your shit then your a slut.

BEST MALE Artist
Justin Timberlake
Justin Timberlake BEST MALE Artist
O.K. Mtv executives It's time to put down the crack pipe. Or the xtc or whatever your on.

I watched the "show" until Missy Elliott came on then I couldn't take anymore. "Work it"
Bitch you got alot more "working it" to do.

This stuff is a bunch of crap and makes me want to puke!

Dancing around and showing your phat ass isn't Music.

Mtv you may pull the wool over the eyes of millions of people but not me. Mtv your a joke.

Nominees for the MTV Europe Music Awards 2003

Winners

How MTV Took Over Europe

U.S Pop Stars Sweep MTV Europe Music Awards


Is the music industry on a fright train to hell.
Or did I miss the train to heaven.

Or I'm I just not hip or "with it" anymore?

Did you see the show?

What do you think?

[Cylob]

I can't offer any words of comfort, believe it or not, the music-buying generation love this crap. People are into personalities now, the music takes a back seat.

It pained me as well. To add insult to injury, almost all of these so-called artists were american. It was like Harlem coming to Edinburgh.

I just ignore the mainstream and associated award shows. It's all crap.

Rock n Roll is dead.

[Cylob]

To add, men have no balls. It's all DIY and cookery now....

There are no more rebels.

[Xerxes]

Originally posted by Cylob
buying generation love this crap. People are into personalities now, the music takes a back seat.



...There are no more rebels.

But isn't the rebel aspect part of the personality thing that puts music in the back seat?

[Cylob]

My idea of a rebel is someone who takes a guitar, strums a decent tune and sings the blues. Someone like:

[nybergh]

The White Stripes
Best Rock? Best rock! Best rock! Best Rock!!!!!! Is this for real? I know their music. It's not the best. It's not even really ROCK!
For BEST ROCK "Queens Of the Stone Age" were not even a Nominee

What is ROCK if it's not White Stripes? The music of The White Stripes sounds like simplified version classic Blues-ROCK (<=hell, did you see that: the word ROCK.)mixed with the pure 60's pop-style.

If the words Blues-ROCK doesn't ring a bell for you, I'm forced to mention great names like Zeppelin, Deep Purple, Uriah Heep, Cream, Ten Years After, Janis Joplin, Jimi Hendrix and erarly Black Sabbath. These artists again had their roots in original rhytm'n'blues/rock'n'roll and chicago-blues. Remember that even HEAVY METAL was blues-rock in the very beginning...

Ok, TWS' music may be a little overrated but it's fun someone dares to play real Blues. There have allways been a great demand for bluesrock but not enough (good) artists. Therefore the few ones actually playing it get overrated.

I like Queens of The Stone Age as well and it's FUCKING STRANGE they weren't nominated, but remember that all post-nirvana-stuff that you actually think about as the only real rock of today is just an echo from the era when Zepplin's album Presence was released... all that is left is the distorted fuzzy guitar, no BLUES at all.

Maybe we shouldn't care about MTV, it's just corrupted crap. QOTSA maybe just made mean comments about the MTV or the producers wanted to vary a bit, last year the Awards were quite Foo-Fighters fixated...

But listen here:
MORE BLUES, please!!!
Rockers, forget some of your Nirvana and Iron Maiden and play Ten Years After, Cream and Led Zep instead!!!!

[Cylob]

Originally posted by nybergh
What is ROCK if it's not White Stripes? The music of The White Stripes sounds like simplified version classic Blues-ROCK (<=hell, did you see that: the word ROCK.)mixed with the pure 60's pop-style.

If the words Blues-ROCK doesn't ring a bell for you, I'm forced to mention great names like Zeppelin, Deep Purple, Uriah Heep, Cream, Ten Years After, Janis Joplin, Jimi Hendrix and erarly Black Sabbath. These artists again had their roots in original rhytm'n'blues/rock'n'roll and chicago-blues. Remember that even HEAVY METAL was blues-rock in the very beginning...

I don't think WS are in the same league as the above. To me, their music sounds too minimalistic, too lazy, lacking a bit of punch. If you like, plain boring. Pavement do lo-fi far better.

I'm waiting for real rock to re-emerge. Bands such as BRMC and Interpol give me hope.

[NJK]

Originally posted by Cylob
I'm waiting for real rock to re-emerge. Bands such as BRMC and Interpol give me hope.

In the netherlands there is a band with the name "Kane" they are promising too.

[marvinbarcelona]

I know what you guys mean, I'm sitting here listening to Nuggets (eight compilation of the best of the psychedelic years) and wondering where it all went wrong? There have always been manufactored bands and artists and I guess there always will be, but I don't think they have dominated in the way they do today.

The respite from the torrent of garbage that is played on radio, let alone tv, is the John Peel show on Radio 1. He plays alot of, what I would call crap, but it's always new and always none-mainstream.

Hopefully this will end soon. We are waiting for a new puck style movement to emerge and shake the record industry up, but, I fear it has gone the way of the film industry where the accountants have taken over. They see money in recycling the last hit that happened.

Bollocks!..../me turning up the old cd player

[marvinbarcelona]

PS - Missy Elliott is excellant.

[Cylob]

Originally posted by marvinbarcelona
PS - Missy Elliott is excellant.

Do you mean:

A) Missy Elliott the personality
B) Missy Elliott the music
C) Both

I agree with your assumption about accountants taking over. We've seen the record industry's true colours over the last decade. The beast is fat, ugly and greedy.

[NJK]

Originally posted by marvinbarcelona
The respite from the torrent of garbage that is played on radio, let alone tv, is the John Peel show on Radio 1. He plays alot of, what I would call crap, but it's always new and always none-mainstream.

they wheel him into the studio each day?

quit the jokes he's been on for ages - in the days radio one was still on the am band I used to listen to his show- the only thing I hated about radio one is the "needle time" - must be the reason why offshore radio became so big in the 70's and 80's

too bad they are only on fm these days. radio one was one of the great stations to listen to.
together with the late radio luxemburg and the late radio caroline
( every great station seems to be gone nowdays)

[Xerxes]

Originally posted by Cylob
My idea of a rebel is someone who takes a guitar, strums a decent tune and sings the blues

They are rebelling from people who grab a fiddle, play indecent tunes, and belt country?

I still don't get the rebel aspect of music. It seems to be mandatory for appreciation, but it is too fleeting of a thing to hold on for long.

[Cylob]

Originally posted by Xerxes
I still don't get the rebel aspect of music. It seems to be mandatory for appreciation, but it is too fleeting of a thing to hold on for long.

I was about to agree, but then there are the boy bands and pop-idols...

[Xerxes]

To some extent rebellious music has to have something to rebel against...

[marvinbarcelona]

Missy Elliot's music, I've never met her and so can't comment on her as a person.

Peel may be old, but he stills plays new music, still searches for the unusual and still clearly loves music of all kinds. If I reach Peel's age and I'm still in music as much as I am now, then I'll be a very happy man.

[Cylob]

Originally posted by Xerxes
To some extent rebellious music has to have something to rebel against...

Of course! My favourite bands have rebelled against the whole spectrum of society - from politics to plain angst. The Jesus & Mary Chain and Stone Roses rebelled against the music industry itself.

I admire anyone who defies convention - 'we'll play the guitar this way...............'.

[Cylob]

Originally posted by marvinbarcelona
Peel may be old, but he stills plays new music, still searches for the unusual and still clearly loves music of all kinds. If I reach Peel's age and I'm still in music as much as I am now, then I'll be a very happy man.

Me as well marvin. He also has a happy family life and supports Liverpool FC to-boot.

What more could you want? (I could think of 1 or 2 things)...

[Xerxes]

Originally posted by Cylob
The Jesus & Mary Chain and Stone Roses rebelled ...

What I want to understand is what rebellion has to do with music. If these people played their instruments just as well but sang songs about whirligigs and moonpies, would depriving the concept of rebellion make the music unlistenable/unmarketable?

People are lamenting how music has fallen since the so called "Golden age" of the 60's-80's rock/punk. My working hypothesis is that the "rebellion fetish" that music depended on in these decades has imploded. There is simply nothing to rebel against anymore, and anything that still exists has already been given a treatment by a better artist in the past.

[ShyShy]

Originally posted by marvinbarcelona
Missy Elliot's music, I've never met her and so can't comment on her as a person.

It's ok, marvin, we'll have a grand ol' time sitting in the corner together

[Namelessv1]

Well, the letters MTV automatically take away any credibilty.

[marvinbarcelona]

Originally posted by ShyShy
It's ok, marvin, we'll have a grand ol' time sitting in the corner together

I shall bring my pipe and some rough shag.

[nybergh]

To me, their [The White Stripes'] music sounds too minimalistic, too lazy, lacking a bit of punch. If you like, plain boring. Pavement do lo-fi far better.

Minimalistic, ok, yeah, and boring, hmm in the long run maybe. Most of what u say is true but tell me what I should listen to instead of WS... as I said I prefer blues-rock.

[Cylob]

That's an easy one nyberg:

Built to Spill - Ancient Melodies of the Future


PJ Harvey - Stories From the City, Stories From the Sea


Juliana Hatfield - Beautiful Creature


Lambchop - Nixon

Originally posted by Xerxes
There is simply nothing to rebel against anymore, and anything that still exists has already been given a treatment by a better artist in the past.

There's one thing left to rebel against - the state of the mainstream.

[nybergh]

Thanks, Cylob!
I already ordered some CD's you recommended from my the libary in my town!

[Cylob]

That's the way to do it nybergh - borrow, rip, return.

[nybergh]

right, in 96-224 kbps VBR (average 160) and joint stereo with LAME!
Why use Kazaa bullshit quality when you've got a good libary-system in your town.

Just a few days of waiting and 50 €-cent in ordering-fees. That's the libary, man! Serving the people their task!

[Cylob]

Aaaah, the smell of a freshly-ripped CD.

[Xerxes]

Originally posted by Cylob

There's one thing left to rebel against - the state of the mainstream.

The mainstream will always BE mainstream- pandering, unintelligent, trite. The existence of the mainstream is what makes rebel music rebellious in the first place. If it didn't exist, then rebel music couldn't exist. Why attack it for the sake of nothing else to sing about? There's plenty of other things to talk about, like Whirligigs and Moonpies.

[Cylob]

Originally posted by Xerxes
There's plenty of other things to talk about, like Whirligigs and Moonpies.

As long as it carries a good tune.

Whenever I think about the 1980-2000 generation I come out in a cold sweat. Alot of them must have watched and enjoyed the awards. *takes pistol from top drawer, closes blinds, looks at photo of family*

[Mr_007]

This is really hot concert of mtv.

[Cylob]

Did you watch it mr_007? What were your favourite moments?

[Xerxes]

I want my Muslim Telivision!

[Cylob]

LOL! Apparently the show 'Pop Idol' is big in Iraq.