What the Hell Kind of Genre is This?

Spazz333 · 12th January 2004, 09:10

I just tried to rerip my Veruca Salt CD's and Resolver's genre came up as... and I quote, Riot Grrrl/Queercore.

Three words here. What the Fuck?

Cylob · 12th January 2004, 09:16

I'm glad you're troubled by genre mismatches as well.

I've had some truly ridiculous ones (unfortunately I can't remember them now)....

Give it a day.

When adding tracks to my library I change the genre to 'unknown' straight away. I like to make my own mind up about these things. Take a band like Stereolab who span 20 genres - I changed the lot to 'Ambient Pop.

Spazz333 · 12th January 2004, 09:19

It isn't just mismatch. Most programs I have rip straight to Rock/Pop. But fucking queercore?

By the way, here's the full list of genres I use.

1. Alternative
2. Classic Rock
3. Metal
4. Pop
5. Punk
6. Rap
7. Rock
8. Techno

I don't really like having 6,000 genres. Only use I can find is when hunting Indie bands, Alt Metal ones generally kick ass.

Cylob · 12th January 2004, 09:39

Only 8? My current list of subgenres....

Electronic
Ambient Electronic
Detroit
Disco
Electroclash
Hip-Hop
House
Krautrock
New Wave
Trance

Post-Rock/Experimental
Ambient Pop
Bossa Nova
Dreampop
Lo-Fi
Space Rock

Rock N Roll
Britpop
C86
Darkwave
Goth
Grunge
Hair Metal
Indie Pop
Indie Rock
Madchester
Post Punk
Prog-Rock
Punk
Punk-Pop
Rap
Retro Rock
Riot Grrrl

I also use 'Covers' and 'Extended'.

ShyShy · 13th January 2004, 20:46

Meh, I so freakin' lazy, I throw all *cough*downloads*cough* into one folder.

And just have a folder for each artist/band that I currently have on the ol' puter.

Cylob · 13th January 2004, 20:49

Man!!!! You need a friendly hacker to sort your system for you. But credit where credit's due, most women still don't know what MP3's are (it's true)....

Spazz333 · 13th January 2004, 21:28

I dunno. A good friend of mine is a woman who has known what an mp3 is for quite awhile, though she just realized how cool they can be for parties.

Anyways, my organization is like Shy's. Root/Artist/title.mp3 Media Monkey Rocks for Organization

Cylob · 14th January 2004, 22:02

Quote:

Originally posted by Spazz333
Media Monkey Rocks for Organization

Welcome to the club.

If a lazy person (like yourself) can do wonders with it, think what a control freak (like me) can do....

ScorLibran · 14th January 2004, 22:41

Quote:

Originally posted by Spazz333
I just tried to rerip my Veruca Salt CD's and Resolver's genre came up as... and I quote, Riot Grrrl/Queercore.

Three words here. What the Fuck?

What's funny is Veruca Salt isn't even close to either of those genres. They're Alternative Rock, or maybe Alternative Pop/Rock.

Queercore is the likes of Team Dresch, while Riot Grrrl is made up of bands like Bratmobile, L7, Bikini Kill, and Sleater-Kinney.

How dare they pollute my favorite genre with Veruca Salt?!?!

(I do like Veruca Salt...got their first two albums...but they're not even close to Riot Grrrl.)

(...And I just realized the part about it "coming up" as those genres. That's exactly why I turn off anything that can "come up" on my ripper/encoder, like AMG/CDDB/freedb. I manually type in EVERYTHING. Even track numbers.)

LollipopLustKil · 14th January 2004, 22:45

Quote:

Originally posted by Spazz333
Anyways, my organization is like Shy's. Root/Artist/title.mp3 Media Monkey Rocks for Organization

I have "C:\DC++\A-Z\Artist\Album\# - Name.mp3"

Media Monkey is the king for all of this. I don't like being in complete control 24/7, like Cylob is.

I just like to know where it is, through the Artist, not genre. I have playlists for that.

d0rk · 14th January 2004, 23:14

D:\Brian\Brian's Music\blah-blah

Spazz333 · 15th January 2004, 00:44

I use the media library to maintain my obsessive control. I just organize em on my harddrive so I can find em quick in a pinch. Good ole custom views.

m0e · 15th January 2004, 01:48

The only genre's I believe in or use are "good music" and "crap not worth listening to". I let CDDB tag my music when i rip it using CDex and when I'm done i use the mass tagging feature in the media library to remove the genre's from the tags.

Cylob · 15th January 2004, 05:42

Quote:

Originally posted by LollipopLustKil
I have "C:\DC++\A-Z\Artist\Album\# - Name.mp3"

Media Monkey is the king for all of this. I don't like being in complete control 24/7, like Cylob is. I just like to know where it is, through the Artist, not genre. I have playlists for that.

This was my exact set-up man (file structure plus player).

I've started moving bands into genre folders (for the benefit of slsk users)....

Spazz333 · 15th January 2004, 09:16

I wish I had the benefit of high bandwith to share the wealth, then I might think of doing the same and trying to spread the disease that is my musical taste to the world. I share mainly my bands that I downloaded from mp3.com for share on Soulseek. That way the RIAA won't have much to hit me for and I can spread the good Indies around

Cylob · 15th January 2004, 09:42

Too right Spazz - share and share alike.

Music for all.

Twilightseer · 15th January 2004, 12:23

This thread reminds me of someone who posted a couple of years ago to complain that 'negerpunk' was listed in the id3v1 genre list.
Still waiting to meet someone who listens to that in order to know what it actually is

Cylob · 15th January 2004, 19:51

I don't know. I'm pretty sure I haven't got any negerpunk (though I may be wrong).

12th January 2004, 09:10	#1
Spazz333 Major Dude Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Limbo Posts: 1,498	What the Hell Kind of Genre is This? I just tried to rerip my Veruca Salt CD's and Resolver's genre came up as... and I quote, Riot Grrrl/Queercore. Three words here. What the Fuck?

12th January 2004, 09:16	#2
Cylob Forum Music King (Forum King) Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: The Future Posts: 7,175	I'm glad you're troubled by genre mismatches as well. I've had some truly ridiculous ones (unfortunately I can't remember them now).... Give it a day. When adding tracks to my library I change the genre to 'unknown' straight away. I like to make my own mind up about these things. Take a band like Stereolab who span 20 genres - I changed the lot to 'Ambient Pop. Secret Snacker & Accomplished Pen Thief At:

12th January 2004, 09:39	#4
Cylob Forum Music King (Forum King) Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: The Future Posts: 7,175	Only 8? My current list of subgenres.... Electronic Ambient Electronic Detroit Disco Electroclash Hip-Hop House Krautrock New Wave Trance Post-Rock/Experimental Ambient Pop Bossa Nova Dreampop Lo-Fi Space Rock Rock N Roll Britpop C86 Darkwave Goth Grunge Hair Metal Indie Pop Indie Rock Madchester Post Punk Prog-Rock Punk Punk-Pop Rap Retro Rock Riot Grrrl I also use 'Covers' and 'Extended'. Secret Snacker & Accomplished Pen Thief At:

13th January 2004, 20:49	#6
Cylob Forum Music King (Forum King) Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: The Future Posts: 7,175	Man!!!! You need a friendly hacker to sort your system for you. But credit where credit's due, most women still don't know what MP3's are (it's true).... Secret Snacker & Accomplished Pen Thief At:

14th January 2004, 23:14	#11
d0rk I contribute nothing. (Forum King) Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Virgacalementoflagantionio Posts: 3,030	D:\Brian\Brian's Music\blah-blah I came for the hatred. I stayed for the ballbag.

12th January 2004, 09:19	#3
Spazz333 Major Dude Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Limbo Posts: 1,498	It isn't just mismatch. Most programs I have rip straight to Rock/Pop. But fucking queercore? By the way, here's the full list of genres I use. 1. Alternative 2. Classic Rock 3. Metal 4. Pop 5. Punk 6. Rap 7. Rock 8. Techno I don't really like having 6,000 genres. Only use I can find is when hunting Indie bands, Alt Metal ones generally kick ass.

13th January 2004, 20:46	#5
ShyShy Amazon Bush Woman Forum Queen Join Date: May 2003 Location: The Sticks, Queensland Posts: 8,066	Meh, I so freakin' lazy, I throw all coughdownloadscough into one folder. And just have a folder for each artist/band that I currently have on the ol' puter.

13th January 2004, 21:28	#7
Spazz333 Major Dude Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Limbo Posts: 1,498	I dunno. A good friend of mine is a woman who has known what an mp3 is for quite awhile, though she just realized how cool they can be for parties. Anyways, my organization is like Shy's. Root/Artist/title.mp3 Media Monkey Rocks for Organization

15th January 2004, 00:44	#12
Spazz333 Major Dude Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Limbo Posts: 1,498	I use the media library to maintain my obsessive control. I just organize em on my harddrive so I can find em quick in a pinch. Good ole custom views.

15th January 2004, 01:48	#13
m0e This Space For Rent (Major Dude) Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: The great north wasteland of the States Posts: 1,458	The only genre's I believe in or use are "good music" and "crap not worth listening to". I let CDDB tag my music when i rip it using CDex and when I'm done i use the mass tagging feature in the media library to remove the genre's from the tags. KEXP

15th January 2004, 09:16	#15
Spazz333 Major Dude Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Limbo Posts: 1,498	I wish I had the benefit of high bandwith to share the wealth, then I might think of doing the same and trying to spread the disease that is my musical taste to the world. I share mainly my bands that I downloaded from mp3.com for share on Soulseek. That way the RIAA won't have much to hit me for and I can spread the good Indies around

15th January 2004, 09:42	#16
Cylob Forum Music King (Forum King) Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: The Future Posts: 7,175	Too right Spazz - share and share alike. Music for all. Secret Snacker & Accomplished Pen Thief At:

15th January 2004, 12:23	#17
Twilightseer Frenchoderator Join Date: May 2000 Location: Lavabo, fond du couloir, 3è porte à droite Posts: 6,309	This thread reminds me of someone who posted a couple of years ago to complain that 'negerpunk' was listed in the id3v1 genre list. Still waiting to meet someone who listens to that in order to know what it actually is

15th January 2004, 19:51	#18
Cylob Forum Music King (Forum King) Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: The Future Posts: 7,175	I don't know. I'm pretty sure I haven't got any negerpunk (though I may be wrong). Secret Snacker & Accomplished Pen Thief At:

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