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God exists. Here are the arguments
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A bunch of arguments for God's existance. I've picked out the best, but you should really read the thing itself to get the full impact. Quote:
Freedom of speech is the basic freedom of humanity. When you've lost that, you've lost everything. 1\/\/4y 34|<$p4y 1gp4y 33714y, 0d4y 0uy4y? | Roses are #FF0000; Violets are #0000FF; chown -R ${YOU} ~/base The DMCA. It really is that bad. : Count for your life. |
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Frankly, this is an impossible thing to discuss with most people. So many people have made up there the minds, and are not willing to consider it. Besides, beliefwise, and argument is not needed, wanted or require. The belief alone is enough.
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Major Dude
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hahahaha
That's the funniest thing i have seen all day, so true aswell. Well done ![]() edit/ Quote:
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Little Winged One
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I'm sorry, I refuse to accept the belief that some dude with some 'Plan' that involves allowing children to be raped and murdered daily should be ruling over the Universe.
/edit I also find this funny Quote:
just as feathery as ever | portfolio | a poignant quote |
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Creators aren't necessarily rulers.
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"I just want to lie in my own crusty filth, eating rancid egg sandwiches, until some unfortunate paramedic has to blow down my door to find my bloated and pasty corpse wedged between the nightstand and mattress stained with Bengay and Robitussin DM." - Greg Gutfeld on sex and seniors "Syphilis does not stay in Vegas. Debt collectors do not stay in Vegas. Dead hookers stay in Vegas, but the guilt stays with you forever." - Bill Schultz |
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Forum King
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It's supposed to be funny, people. Though discovering that for yourself makes the whole thing a lot funnier. [edit]Whoops. Missed some edits.
Freedom of speech is the basic freedom of humanity. When you've lost that, you've lost everything. 1\/\/4y 34|<$p4y 1gp4y 33714y, 0d4y 0uy4y? | Roses are #FF0000; Violets are #0000FF; chown -R ${YOU} ~/base The DMCA. It really is that bad. : Count for your life. |
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Forum King
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By the way, my ultimate favs are in bold.
Freedom of speech is the basic freedom of humanity. When you've lost that, you've lost everything. 1\/\/4y 34|<$p4y 1gp4y 33714y, 0d4y 0uy4y? | Roses are #FF0000; Violets are #0000FF; chown -R ${YOU} ~/base The DMCA. It really is that bad. : Count for your life. |
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Major Dude
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sooo great. has happened all too often. the X, X`, etc one too.
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Major Dude
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God knows everything, correct? Well then, to him, we are in the past,present, and future at the same time, and doing an infinate number of things while we're at it. Thoughout our 100 year long lives, we are a mare frackon of a split second of a thought to him. He can't change anything, because to him he knows that the alturnaives are happening AND arn't happening, and he knows all the alturnatives.
If god truely knows everything, this is true. Therefore, god is on crack. OR Therefore, STFU and got on with your lifes. OR Therefore, a LONG time ago, god was a person with a greatly accalerated perception of reality, bordering on precognition, and was basicily really fucking smart. Then people took his image and exagerated it, distorted it, and exagerated it some more. OR "OMG BUNNEH WITH A WAFFLE ON IT'S HEAD~!~!!~~!~!!1" /me is off to actually read all of it, and see the humor in it if there is any. This is just more rambling brought to you by Fucking Bored Productions™. ¯¯¯¯Joe Bloggs____ ¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯ |
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BTW I do believe in God. Why? I don't know either. Perhaps I'm a fool, but I've considered atheism, and it doesn’t make sense for me. I believe in God for personal reasons, and it answers for me the question ‘What is the purpose of our lives?’ I'm not trying to convince anybody here, I just thought I'd mention my beliefs.
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This is real proof why God exists (philosophically and theologically speaking, of course):
http://www.fordham.edu/halsall/source/aquinas3.html "Welcome to the Island of people who know too much."..."Did you really think balloons would stop him?!" See what I'm listening too. |
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if nobody knows that God exists for sure, then how are you all so sure what his responsibilities and powers are. we can't prove that the bible is right either so we can't use that as proof.
I do believe in God by the way. i'm just not so sure of his responsibilites Never underestimate the bandwidth of a station wagon full of tapes hurtling down the highway. |
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Nullsoft Newbie
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They both say that event Z has cause Y, and the cause Y (itself an event) had a cause also. Thus there must be an orginal cause. This is flawed because of the authors misunderstanding of infinity. If the future of the universe is a closed one (the big crunch theory) then it is quite plausble to say that the universe will (and indeed has) keep big-bang-ing and big-crunch-ing for ever. Scientists don't know if the big crunch will happen (they cannot measure the hubble constant accuratly enough). This "proof" would deny that possible happening. Of course, the christian is now saying "but what orginally created that? Must be God!" to whom I say, chaos theory says that we cannot know what happened before the big bang. So, jumping to MASSIVE conclusions that the bible is the truth is not the way to go. It is accepting a popular and easy answer to a difficult question. That answer stifles the need to find out more. Not just for you, but for everyone. The third "proof" says "Hence not all things are mere accidents" The argument hinges on this, but the explanation why is not convincing at all. The forth "proof" says "Therefore there exists something that is the cause of the existence of all things" yet it doesn't explain why this is so. It explains the possibility of the existance of things that are "extreme", but doesn't go anywhere near to justifying that statement. The fifth proof starts off my saying "The fifth proof arises from the ordering of things for we see that some things which lack reason, such as natural bodies, are operated in accordance with a plan." In all honesty, I cannot understand what this is saying, and certainly cannot be the basis of a proof. DO NOT PM ME WITH TECH SUPPORT QUESTIONS |
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Foorum King
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[quote]originally posted by eleet-2k2
This is real proof why God exists (philosophically and theologically speaking, of course): http://www.fordham.edu/halsall/source/aquinas3.html({quote] All I can see there are wrong premises leading to wrong conclusions. Or was that supposed to be a joke as well? @k_rock923: If you believe in a god that has infinite power and knowledge then he would also be responsible for everything, because he would be able to change it if he wanted to. |
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how the do we know that? we have no idea. people who believe in God's infinite power just assume he created everything. who's to say that someone else created it and now he controls it? who's to say that God created it and now some other God of equal power now controls it. and eventually when that God screws up and destroys everything, the first God comes along again and recreates everything. whatever happened to the laws of conservation of matter and energy. according to those laws, matter and energy can neither be created nor destroyed. but on the other hand, all matter and energy had to originate somewhere.
the point is that we can argue about the existance of God forever. no matter how long we argue about this, no side can be proved right or wrong. Face it: we don't know and we never will. Never underestimate the bandwidth of a station wagon full of tapes hurtling down the highway. |
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I like to belive when we die, eventually. We will know for sure, one way or another.
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Foorum King
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@mrharhar: Believing in life after death does have one great advantage: you'll never find out you were wrong.
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Comfortably Numb
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One of the things I admire about God
is that He never tries to force you to believe or disbelieve in Him. I honestly can't say the same thing about human beings. Another thing I admire about God, is that he gave us all a brain. He then gave us the ability to use that brain, to make choises in our lives. He also leaves it up to you to make those choices. Why would He want everyone to think like He does? Wouldn't that be selfish of Him? Wouldn't that make Him more like you than you like Him? And wouldn't that make living a boring experience, one without the quest for knowledge or emotion? You may or may not believe in God. But isn't it wonderful that you've been given the ability to make that choice? |
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Forum King
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Bill Gates still lives
Therefor there is no god.
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Major Dude
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An omnisient being would be a good answer to the unawserable so that we can go on with our lives without wearing out our little brains, wouldn't it? "Man, that was a rather cruel act of god (hides medevil axe behing his back)". GOC: Purple sheet?? ¯¯¯¯Joe Bloggs____ ¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯ |
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If there is a God, and he is omnipotent, then he can change things because he can place himself in time. He could decide to not know, for example.
Freedom of speech is the basic freedom of humanity. When you've lost that, you've lost everything. 1\/\/4y 34|<$p4y 1gp4y 33714y, 0d4y 0uy4y? | Roses are #FF0000; Violets are #0000FF; chown -R ${YOU} ~/base The DMCA. It really is that bad. : Count for your life. |
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How the FUCK did this get into an argument about God's existance!? IT'S A JOKE THREAD, DAMN IT!
Freedom of speech is the basic freedom of humanity. When you've lost that, you've lost everything. 1\/\/4y 34|<$p4y 1gp4y 33714y, 0d4y 0uy4y? | Roses are #FF0000; Violets are #0000FF; chown -R ${YOU} ~/base The DMCA. It really is that bad. : Count for your life. |
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will covered the problems in the post's "proofs" quite well, so i don't feel obliged to add anything, except for the last one:
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*in this context. i know they go CrAzY sometimes
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Major Dude
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Bah! The title is mocking serious discussion. Bah, I say, BAH!
Freedom of speech is the basic freedom of humanity. When you've lost that, you've lost everything. 1\/\/4y 34|<$p4y 1gp4y 33714y, 0d4y 0uy4y? | Roses are #FF0000; Violets are #0000FF; chown -R ${YOU} ~/base The DMCA. It really is that bad. : Count for your life. |
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He was in a casting role in "Bruce Almighty"...GOD IS BLACK!!!
A very close Japanese friend I knew a while ago once said to me "Watashi no koto wo oboeta, onegai shimasu...Yakusoku?" I forgot his name though... |
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Freedom of speech is the basic freedom of humanity. When you've lost that, you've lost everything. 1\/\/4y 34|<$p4y 1gp4y 33714y, 0d4y 0uy4y? | Roses are #FF0000; Violets are #0000FF; chown -R ${YOU} ~/base The DMCA. It really is that bad. : Count for your life. |
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made his slipknot mask in woodwork class
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Ahahaha, that was too funny. Just made my day.
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Made In The USA
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Some more of my favorites...
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"I just want to lie in my own crusty filth, eating rancid egg sandwiches, until some unfortunate paramedic has to blow down my door to find my bloated and pasty corpse wedged between the nightstand and mattress stained with Bengay and Robitussin DM." - Greg Gutfeld on sex and seniors "Syphilis does not stay in Vegas. Debt collectors do not stay in Vegas. Dead hookers stay in Vegas, but the guilt stays with you forever." - Bill Schultz |
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As a believer, I find this thread...
TOO DAMN FUNNY!!!
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Yeah, god exists. I've been trying to buy a Nintendo from him for a while now...
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The Big Bad Boots
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someone call?
seriously though, what if : religion is a bunch of BS and when you die YOU'RE beliefs come true for YOU??? I hate everyone, so you don't have to. |
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