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19th January 2004, 12:26
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Microsoft Corporation vs MikeRoweSoft
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19th January 2004, 13:37
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DAMN YOU! I was just about to post this.
[edit] But yeah. Total bullshit. [/edit] Freedom of speech is the basic freedom of humanity. When you've lost that, you've lost everything. 1\/\/4y 34|<$p4y 1gp4y 33714y, 0d4y 0uy4y? | Roses are #FF0000; Violets are #0000FF; chown -R ${YOU} ~/base The DMCA. It really is that bad. : Count for your life. |
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19th January 2004, 13:43
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DAMNIT! i was too....
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19th January 2004, 14:12
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I think it's totally wrong. I mean, it's not the guy's fault that it happens to be his name.
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19th January 2004, 14:26
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yeah but he is using the fact that if he puts the name together and adds the soft it siunds like microsoft ...may not agree myself and wouldn't see a problem but I'd say he is intending the similarity ..I mean why use the soft? his name iss mike rowe not mike rowe soft ...so it is his intention of use rather than his actual name that they are complaining on.
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19th January 2004, 15:25
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I think he is entitled to the domain. His business is not hurting Microsoft in any way and nobody could confuse Microsoft and MikeRoweSoft.
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19th January 2004, 15:33
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Except people trying to explain it with speech impediments.
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19th January 2004, 17:01
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I meant the companies themselves, not the pronunciation of their names. A visitor to mikerowesoft.com would not be there because he/she is looking for a Microsoft product.
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19th January 2004, 21:50
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His names Mike Rowe, he will likely one day develop software and is currently into web design. Mike Rowe, Software, he has every right to MikeRoweSoft. If it's his bussness, then isn't MikeRoweSoft already a legal entity on it's own?
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20th January 2004, 04:25
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I would just like to say that this is purely ridiculous regardless of WHAT you believe you in.
More importantly I don't like looking an idiot when ppl put BREAKING NEWS in the GENERAL discussion thread. *grumbles*  http://forums.winamp.com/showthread....hreadid=165689 They say if you play a Microsoft CD backwards you hear satanic messages. That's nothing, if you play it forwards it installs Windows. |
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20th January 2004, 07:00
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good point, didn't think copyrights were phoenetic like that can you say : hukt on kopyrites? I hate everyone, so you don't have to. |
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20th January 2004, 10:41
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i think they are. same reason you can't make a logo identical to the coke one, and just change the name... or - more appropriately - can't start selling "Koka Kola"...
   
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20th January 2004, 14:50
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id think it would be alittle different from that zootm.
its the guys name!
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20th January 2004, 15:00
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it's an intentional play on words. he knew very well microsoft would come after him if he did it, and he probably did it intentionally to see if he could milk ms for it.
microsoft wouldnt have gone after him if it wasnt a valid case. they have the best lawyers in the world. |
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20th January 2004, 16:14
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hmm...someone's going to hell and it sure isn't Mike!!
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20th January 2004, 18:58
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We discussed this subject this afternoon in History Class when we started talking about current news and I brought this up. Basically I agree with MS on this. The kid could have just created the site Mike Rowe and left it at that. There is no need for him to have MikeRoweSoft. Indeed he might create software that would then make it then Mike Rowe's Software. If he made the domain www.mikerowe.com and I was looking for software Mike Rowe has created, I would not type in www.mikerowesoft.com to look for it. It was done on purpose and I believe he has no right to that domain.
[edit] Has anyone looked at his site? He has already set up a pay pal account to get funds to help 'pay' for his lawyer. I personally think that he made such a big deal out of it to get his name out [/edit] I came for the hatred. I stayed for the ballbag. |
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20th January 2004, 19:49
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the company is mi-cro... the guy's name is mike rowe... they are pronounced differently
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21st January 2004, 00:06
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either way, it seems pretty obvious that guy didn't register that domain name with the intentions of keeping it (rather making a quick buck selling MS a worthless domain name (prolly expecting to lose it and gain a decent settlement/compensation ) )
but even still it should remain his (doubt it will), but he should be allowed to keep it, now if he makes his own linux distribution and sells it there it becomes quite a lot more questionable I hate everyone, so you don't have to. |
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21st January 2004, 06:17
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"Mic row soft" Anyway, since mikerowesoft.com is actually a site for buisness work, Microsoft doesn't really have a case. It's the guy's name, and his buisness is associated with the site "mikerowsoft.com". I don't think he's trying to make a quick buck, anyway. Freedom of speech is the basic freedom of humanity. When you've lost that, you've lost everything. 1\/\/4y 34|<$p4y 1gp4y 33714y, 0d4y 0uy4y? | Roses are #FF0000; Violets are #0000FF; chown -R ${YOU} ~/base The DMCA. It really is that bad. : Count for your life. |
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22nd January 2004, 02:11
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I like it how microsoft offered him $10!
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22nd January 2004, 04:49
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I dont think you can copyright phonetics.and its the guys name for gods sake.
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22nd January 2004, 09:07
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Microsoft has a right to protect it's intellectual property - which includes the pronunciation of their name.
If Mike Rowe Soft was the big monopoly and Microsoft was the competitor, likewise, Mike Rowe could take action against Micro. Mike Rowe has many many alternatives - Rowe Soft, Mike Soft, or any other name. Bill Gates didn't name his company Billgatesoft, after all. 
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22nd January 2004, 10:08
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.....why let them grow even bigger by assimilating every domain name that sounds like the company's name??? I hate everyone, so you don't have to. |
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22nd January 2004, 10:29
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I just read in my newspaper today, that Microsoft has stepped down in this case. Stating "that we take our brand very serious, but in this case we might have taken it a bit too serious" (translated from english to danish and back again)
/edit: here is the reuters article - Stefan |
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22nd January 2004, 11:17
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"We appreciate that Mike Rowe is a young entrepreneur who came up with a creative domain name, so we're currently in the process of resolving this matter in a way that will be fair to him and satisfy our obligations under trademark law," Desler said.
Rowe is demanding $10,000 from Microsoft to change the site's name. kinda hard to tell doesn't quite look like they've stepped down exactly, but realised they don't rule the world cuz of the size of their bank accounts BTW, knew it! knew it!! knew it!!! looks like mike rowe was planning on loosin the site for a big fat paycheck I hate everyone, so you don't have to. |
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24th January 2004, 22:51
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24th January 2004, 23:14
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All that because his name is Mike Rowe.. Now if Some software monopoly's name would sound like mine
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24th January 2004, 23:36
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Freedom of speech is the basic freedom of humanity. When you've lost that, you've lost everything. 1\/\/4y 34|<$p4y 1gp4y 33714y, 0d4y 0uy4y? | Roses are #FF0000; Violets are #0000FF; chown -R ${YOU} ~/base The DMCA. It really is that bad. : Count for your life. |
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25th January 2004, 04:42
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25th January 2004, 04:44
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I would, as a joke. I would have said, "Sure, I'll trade you. You get http://www.mikerowesoft.com, I get http://www.microsoft.com. Deal?"
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25th January 2004, 05:58
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Personnaly, in my head, I keep pronouncing it 'Mike Raw Soft', because of the e in rowe.
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25th January 2004, 23:21
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Freedom of speech is the basic freedom of humanity. When you've lost that, you've lost everything. 1\/\/4y 34|<$p4y 1gp4y 33714y, 0d4y 0uy4y? | Roses are #FF0000; Violets are #0000FF; chown -R ${YOU} ~/base The DMCA. It really is that bad. : Count for your life. |
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26th January 2004, 02:26
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yes, but you said in your example a house, which would normally go for around 1 million dollars, but would you also sell the rights to all of the stuff you own on those harddrives, all those man hours on OS custumization, wallpapers, website projects, etc?
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26th January 2004, 03:49
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Yeah, and if you're selling the domain name, you're also selling the advertising and name. If "mikerowsoft.com" has been printed on all the buisness cards you've been giving out for the last year, you probably don't want to give it up, do you? But you probably would if the price was high enough.
Freedom of speech is the basic freedom of humanity. When you've lost that, you've lost everything. 1\/\/4y 34|<$p4y 1gp4y 33714y, 0d4y 0uy4y? | Roses are #FF0000; Violets are #0000FF; chown -R ${YOU} ~/base The DMCA. It really is that bad. : Count for your life. |
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26th January 2004, 08:06
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I still think he wanted to screw MS. I mean why couldn't he have gotten MikeRoweDesigns.com or the like? Now, his new address it MikeRoweForums.com and it is just a new page/forums not anything to do with his business. And the timing of when he purchased the Domain. He was asking for it.
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26th January 2004, 08:12
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If I was him, I'd buy mikerowesoft.net, org, us, and any other domainas he can. He'll make a fortune
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26th January 2004, 08:18
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6th February 2004, 04:06
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Ho ho ho, had my laugh of the day, when i rememered this story, and decided to check out on the outcome...
well, you gotta apriciate the irony, mikerowesoft has now partnered up with Mandrake Linux.... hehe well i think it's funny |
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