Justin Quits AOL/Nullsoft

will · 23rd January 2004, 07:19

As Hugh said in the Big Kahuna thread...

Trying landoleet.org
Attempting to finger justin@landoleet.org
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Login: justin - - - - - - - - - - Name: Justin
Directory: /home/deadbeef - - - - Shell: /usr/local/bin/tcsh
Never logged in.
New mail received Thu Oct 9 15:07 2003 (PDT)
- - Unread since Mon Mar 10 12:28 2003 (PST)
Mail forwarded to: justin@blorp.com
Plan:
Jan 22, 2004

Well, it took a bit longer than I (or likely anybody else expected), but after four and a half years, I've resigned from my position at AOL. Yay/sigh/etc.

This will likely be the last time I update this .plan, but I might find myself updating the .plan of justin@blorp.com.

peace out.

eof
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End of finger session
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Justin, you rocked our world. Not just once, but again, again, again, again and again. May it continue without AOL holding you back.

As for the future of winamp, loyal fans, that will be left in the very able hands of Christope and Francis. Winamp is going to continue progessing.

Much Love,

Will Fisher

james · 23rd January 2004, 07:21

I'm REALLY looking forward to what Justin can do without the evil shackles of AOL

Good luck, mate...

baafie · 23rd January 2004, 07:23

Indeed. Good luck, Mr Frankel.. and thank you for all your great work.

apollos · 23rd January 2004, 07:29

/me buys Justin a beer, and a new llama, thank you for your excellent program dude <3

mark · 23rd January 2004, 07:30

so he has given up nullsoft? brave move, I thought he had some kinda part ownership thingy going on....

baafie · 23rd January 2004, 07:32

[blorp.com]

Login: deadbeef Name: Justin

Directory: /home/deadbeef Shell: /bin/tcsh

On since Wed Jan 21 19:37 (PST) on ttyp0, idle 3:51, from 66.93.182.32

Last login Thu Jan 22 23:50 (PST) on ttyp8 from dslips.landolee

Mail last read Fri Jan 23 00:00 2004 (PST)

Mail forwarded to:

"|IFS=' '&&exec /usr/local/bin/procmail -f-||exit 75 #deadbeef"

Plan:

January 22, 2004 @ 10:01pm

Just updated my .plan at landoleet.org, too. Won't repeat it here (in two words:

I've resigned). So begins chapter 3... or something cliche/poetic there.

Or wait, does I've count as a single word? ha ha.

EnDurA · 23rd January 2004, 08:42

well i'm sorry to see him go. But were ever he is, and whatever he's doing, I know that he'll give it all he has. Rock on Justin

Viper007Bond · 23rd January 2004, 08:46

I doubt this is the last we'll be hearing of him..

zootm · 23rd January 2004, 09:18

nice one.

ryan · 23rd January 2004, 09:26

I'm excited to see what Justin is going to do now.

DuaneJeffers · 23rd January 2004, 09:31

So Long Justin. I hope you brain comes up with the next biggest thing. I wonder if Nullsoft will be hiring soon, cause I might start college in fall in SF ... but who knows.

Anywho, Thank you Justin for the best thing since sliced bread (Winamp).

-Duane

mrharhar · 23rd January 2004, 09:50

Thanks Justin. Your the king.

taylormemer · 23rd January 2004, 10:09

Thankyou very much Justin. You have brought joy to the WinAmp community.

s0be · 23rd January 2004, 10:59

good god, it sounds like you guys are mourning him. If anything, I see this as his rebirth. Consider this that best friend, who was married to the ball and chain of a woman, never letting him come out and get beligerantly drunk. He doesn't have anyone to whip him now, and he'll be back in full force.... sure, he might spend the first few (days, weeks, months.... it depends on how bad the oppressors are) in a drunken stupor, but once the reverse intervention has happened, nothing bad can come of it.

s0be

baafie · 23rd January 2004, 11:07

Well, this is a goodbye. These are the winamp forums, and winamp's main developer has just quit. So obviously this is not a good thing for winamp.

/me shrugs

taylormemer · 23rd January 2004, 11:15

I don't think o, well I hope not, WinAmp is widely known and loved so I think WinAmp will still grow.

sidd · 23rd January 2004, 12:04

wowsers.. i thought the day would never come.

Im *slightly* worried about whether or not AVS will ever see more development. Maybe this was the reason for the incredible spree of updates pre-WA5. Oh well..

Congrats justin! or somthing

...

mc^^^^ · 23rd January 2004, 12:22

i was hoping justin would go out with a bang

but i guess winamp made him $100 million richer so i guess id at least have *some* respect.... maybe haha

DJHotIce · 23rd January 2004, 12:38

if this is for real then I'm sad to see him go. I doubt that it's fake mentioning a moderator wrote this.

Justin Farewell. Let me know how it goes later down the road. NULLSOFT won't be the same w/o you! AOL hehe won't be the same without you. Good move to resign because the AOL's stupid heads are just out to make more money off of you.

It's been real. I can't wait to see what next project you'll go after. Coding is a lifestyle you just can't leave it so I know you'll be going after other projects in the future.

Sincerely
DJHotIce

inthegray · 23rd January 2004, 13:03

though i wish Justin the best, and hope he continues to innovate and do whatever he likes doing... i'm wondering what will happen with winamp now?

will he have no involvement, officially or unofficially? will there be less to expect, in terms of new "killer" features and improvement? how crippled is the Nullsoft team now?

these are unsteady times.

will · 23rd January 2004, 13:10

Quote:

Originally posted by inthegray
i'm wondering what will happen with winamp now?

Francis and Christophe are both awesome coders, and they will doing the development now (infact, they coded a lot of winamp 5). Winamp will continue to progress and rock, rest assured.

dlinkwit27 · 23rd January 2004, 14:26

Closing time
Open all the doors and let you out into the world
Closing time
Turn all of the lights on over every boy and every girl
Closing time
One last call for alcohol so finish your whiskey or beer
Closing time
You don't have to go home but you can't stay here

I know who I want to take me home
I know who I want to take me home
I know who I want to take me home

Closing time
Time for you to go out to the places you will be from
Closing time
This room won't be open till your brothers or your sisters come
So gather up your jackets, move it to the exits
I hope you have found a friend
Closing time
Every new beginning comes from some other beginning's end

I know who I want to take me home
I know who I want to take me home
I know who I want to take me home
Take me home

Best of luck to ya!

mark · 23rd January 2004, 15:30

Amen

Bizzeh · 23rd January 2004, 15:41

before, justin had the money of aol to back him.
now, he doesnt have the AOL chains holding him down, AND has his own money to back him.
i have a fealing, justin is planing somthing BIG

cmountford · 23rd January 2004, 15:47

agreed...I'm most curious to see how the situation takes shape

unfnknblvbl · 23rd January 2004, 15:49

Justin Frankel
John Carmack

Two programmers who can do no wrong and are veritable Gods in their respective realms.

Thankyou Justin for the time you've spent at Nullsoft and making Winamp the best media player available today.

May you find some way to blow our minds with your newfound freedom

Mr_007 · 23rd January 2004, 15:50

Sorry for this news.
my very like justin.

WhiteRayven · 23rd January 2004, 15:53

I smell Wasabi... Any one else?

dlinkwit27 · 23rd January 2004, 16:02

I wonder what the contracts were that he was under. AOL may have put in there a clasue about not creating any "rival software" for X years, or working for a rival companyh or something to that affect.

liquidmotion · 23rd January 2004, 16:02

porn.

Kaboon · 23rd January 2004, 16:48

53x.

Arvenius · 23rd January 2004, 16:49

i heard rumours of him working on a new video-codec especially designed for pron, rumours also has it that this thingy can encode 2hr dvd quality porn to 200mb...
but thats only rumours of course =)

evil_oj · 23rd January 2004, 16:53

Thanks for everything Justin!

Kind of a bummer to hear that you're leaving, but it makes it OK to know that you weren't happy under AOL. I think Winamp will do just fine from here on, cuz you've lead it in the right direction.

Winamp has never not been #1 for mp3, and now all sorts of media.

Most of my favourite music has been played through Winamp, and music is really important to me, so Winamp too is important to me.

Take it easy dude! Thanks again for all the innovation!

MasterViVi · 23rd January 2004, 16:54

God, another one gone >_>

G'bye Justin

eleet-2k2 · 23rd January 2004, 20:12

Good bye Justin and thank you for all your hard work and dedication! You will be missed.

s1138 · 23rd January 2004, 20:21

mixed feelings...
happy he is gonna be free to do what he wants.
sad, he wont be part of nullsoft/winamp. it was his creation after all.
hopefully we will still see some awesome shit coded by him.

anubis2003 · 23rd January 2004, 20:31

I'm sure he'll be back - not here, but somewhere else. He'll remain one of the better programmers out there making some of the sweetest shit. Justin - good job on everything you've done and good luck on everything you will do in the future.

Germ · 23rd January 2004, 21:07

He has yet to /quit - he's still idling like he normally does.

Omega X · 23rd January 2004, 22:11

I wonder what Winamp will be without him running the show? Maybe its about time to shop for a new media player just in case the Next few Winamp versions become crap, which is the usual AOL standard.

Germ · 23rd January 2004, 22:26

Look kid, we've told everyone a few times already that Christophe and Francis are working on future releases of Winamp, like they have the previous releases. Winamp will be fine and at it's current state is very very good already. People like you are really really annoying. Really.

23rd January 2004, 07:21	#2
james Forum PFY (Major Dude) Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: WR3 or NG7 Posts: 6.2+3i Posts: 1,698	I'm REALLY looking forward to what Justin can do without the evil shackles of AOL Good luck, mate... He uses statistics like a drunk uses lamp-posts: for support, not illumination.

23rd January 2004, 08:46	#8
Viper007Bond Major Dude Join Date: May 2002 Location: Portland, OR Life: None Posts: 1,054	I doubt this is the last we'll be hearing of him.. - Viper007Bond \| Viper007Bond.com

23rd January 2004, 09:31	#11
DuaneJeffers Major Dude Join Date: May 2001 Location: Winter Park, FL Posts: 1,776	So Long Justin. I hope you brain comes up with the next biggest thing. I wonder if Nullsoft will be hiring soon, cause I might start college in fall in SF ... but who knows. Anywho, Thank you Justin for the best thing since sliced bread (Winamp). -Duane Website Yeah, that's pretty much it. :-\

23rd January 2004, 09:50	#12
mrharhar Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: From: From: From: From: From: From: From: From: From: From: From: From: From: From: From: From: From: Posts: 233	Thanks Justin. Your the king. -there is no signature-

23rd January 2004, 10:09	#13
taylormemer made his slipknot mask in woodwork class (Forum King) Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Adelaide, Australia Posts: 3,447	Thankyou very much Justin. You have brought joy to the WinAmp community. DeviantART\|¤¤\|DS-Lair\|¤¤\|Dissectional\|¤¤\|Pearl Drums\|¤¤\|Viralsound\|¤¤\|PabUK Hey you! Don't tell me there's no hope at all. Together we stand, divided we fall.My PLAYLIST MSN: taylor.jake@hotmail.com

23rd January 2004, 07:19	#1
will Nullsoft Newbie (Moderator) Join Date: Mar 2001 Location: Sheffield, England Posts: 5,569	Justin Quits AOL/Nullsoft As Hugh said in the Big Kahuna thread... Trying landoleet.org Attempting to finger justin@landoleet.org - Login: justin - - - - - - - - - - Name: Justin Directory: /home/deadbeef - - - - Shell: /usr/local/bin/tcsh Never logged in. New mail received Thu Oct 9 15:07 2003 (PDT) - - Unread since Mon Mar 10 12:28 2003 (PST) Mail forwarded to: justin@blorp.com Plan: Jan 22, 2004 Well, it took a bit longer than I (or likely anybody else expected), but after four and a half years, I've resigned from my position at AOL. Yay/sigh/etc. This will likely be the last time I update this .plan, but I might find myself updating the .plan of justin@blorp.com. peace out. eof - End of finger session ------------------------------------------------------ Justin, you rocked our world. Not just once, but again, again, again, again and again. May it continue without AOL holding you back. As for the future of winamp, loyal fans, that will be left in the very able hands of Christope and Francis. Winamp is going to continue progessing. Much Love, Will Fisher DO NOT PM ME WITH TECH SUPPORT QUESTIONS

23rd January 2004, 07:23	#3
baafie feminazi (Major Dude) Join Date: Apr 2001 Posts: 1,767	Indeed. Good luck, Mr Frankel.. and thank you for all your great work.

23rd January 2004, 07:29	#4
apollos Forum King Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Canterbury & Plymouth Posts: 4,176	/me buys Justin a beer, and a new llama, thank you for your excellent program dude <3

23rd January 2004, 07:30	#5
mark Forum King Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Norn Ir'nd, leek... Posts: 6,287	so he has given up nullsoft? brave move, I thought he had some kinda part ownership thingy going on....

23rd January 2004, 07:32	#6
baafie feminazi (Major Dude) Join Date: Apr 2001 Posts: 1,767	[blorp.com] Login: deadbeef Name: Justin Directory: /home/deadbeef Shell: /bin/tcsh On since Wed Jan 21 19:37 (PST) on ttyp0, idle 3:51, from 66.93.182.32 Last login Thu Jan 22 23:50 (PST) on ttyp8 from dslips.landolee Mail last read Fri Jan 23 00:00 2004 (PST) Mail forwarded to: "\|IFS=' '&&exec /usr/local/bin/procmail -f-\|\|exit 75 #deadbeef" Plan: January 22, 2004 @ 10:01pm Just updated my .plan at landoleet.org, too. Won't repeat it here (in two words: I've resigned). So begins chapter 3... or something cliche/poetic there. Or wait, does I've count as a single word? ha ha.

23rd January 2004, 08:42	#7
EnDurA Major Dude Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: East Coast of Aus Posts: 1,467	well i'm sorry to see him go. But were ever he is, and whatever he's doing, I know that he'll give it all he has. Rock on Justin

23rd January 2004, 09:18	#9
zootm Forum King Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: the nether reaches of bonnie scotland Posts: 13,375	nice one.

23rd January 2004, 09:26	#10
ryan not fucked, not quite. (Forum King) Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Missouri via Tennessee Posts: 8,813	I'm excited to see what Justin is going to do now.

23rd January 2004, 10:59	#14
s0be Major Dude Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: melbourne Posts: First Posts: 1,313	good god, it sounds like you guys are mourning him. If anything, I see this as his rebirth. Consider this that best friend, who was married to the ball and chain of a woman, never letting him come out and get beligerantly drunk. He doesn't have anyone to whip him now, and he'll be back in full force.... sure, he might spend the first few (days, weeks, months.... it depends on how bad the oppressors are) in a drunken stupor, but once the reverse intervention has happened, nothing bad can come of it. s0be And On that day, the Lords of the land said unto their Master Architect, "The temple you have made to the gods of Wasabi and Maki has brought us no great prosperity" and they sent out him into the lands. As he traveled to a far off land, he found he wasn't traveling alone, but that he had gained companions, and when they found their new land, they started work on a new temple, one that would be OPEN to all who wanted to worship. from The Book of Wasabi C 12 Vs 09 (pg 2003)

23rd January 2004, 11:07	#15
baafie feminazi (Major Dude) Join Date: Apr 2001 Posts: 1,767	Well, this is a goodbye. These are the winamp forums, and winamp's main developer has just quit. So obviously this is not a good thing for winamp. /me shrugs

23rd January 2004, 11:15	#16
taylormemer made his slipknot mask in woodwork class (Forum King) Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Adelaide, Australia Posts: 3,447	I don't think o, well I hope not, WinAmp is widely known and loved so I think WinAmp will still grow. DeviantART\|¤¤\|DS-Lair\|¤¤\|Dissectional\|¤¤\|Pearl Drums\|¤¤\|Viralsound\|¤¤\|PabUK Hey you! Don't tell me there's no hope at all. Together we stand, divided we fall.My PLAYLIST MSN: taylor.jake@hotmail.com

23rd January 2004, 12:04	#17
sidd Major Dude Join Date: May 2003 Location: Australia Posts: 1,353	wowsers.. i thought the day would never come. Im slightly worried about whether or not AVS will ever see more development. Maybe this was the reason for the incredible spree of updates pre-WA5. Oh well.. Congrats justin! or somthing ...

23rd January 2004, 12:22	#18
mc^^^^ Forum King Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Perth, Australia MSN: mcbriar@ii.net Posts: All your posts are belong to me!!!! Posts: 2,608	i was hoping justin would go out with a bang but i guess winamp made him $100 million richer so i guess id at least have some respect.... maybe haha

23rd January 2004, 12:38	#19
DJHotIce Forum Loser (Forum King) Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: That place I can't remember the name. Posts: 4,617	if this is for real then I'm sad to see him go. I doubt that it's fake mentioning a moderator wrote this. Justin Farewell. Let me know how it goes later down the road. NULLSOFT won't be the same w/o you! AOL hehe won't be the same without you. Good move to resign because the AOL's stupid heads are just out to make more money off of you. It's been real. I can't wait to see what next project you'll go after. Coding is a lifestyle you just can't leave it so I know you'll be going after other projects in the future. Sincerely DJHotIce -DJHotIce Bounce Multimedia - Professional Web Design

23rd January 2004, 13:03	#20
inthegray Major Dude Join Date: Sep 2003 Posts: 704	though i wish Justin the best, and hope he continues to innovate and do whatever he likes doing... i'm wondering what will happen with winamp now? will he have no involvement, officially or unofficially? will there be less to expect, in terms of new "killer" features and improvement? how crippled is the Nullsoft team now? these are unsteady times. eric is awesome

23rd January 2004, 14:26	#22
dlinkwit27 has no CT (Forum King) Join Date: Sep 2000 Posts: 13,236	Closing time Open all the doors and let you out into the world Closing time Turn all of the lights on over every boy and every girl Closing time One last call for alcohol so finish your whiskey or beer Closing time You don't have to go home but you can't stay here I know who I want to take me home I know who I want to take me home I know who I want to take me home Closing time Time for you to go out to the places you will be from Closing time This room won't be open till your brothers or your sisters come So gather up your jackets, move it to the exits I hope you have found a friend Closing time Every new beginning comes from some other beginning's end I know who I want to take me home I know who I want to take me home I know who I want to take me home Take me home Best of luck to ya! ::Deviant Me::Last.fm::WhatPulse Stats::Folding @ Home

23rd January 2004, 15:30	#23
mark Forum King Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Norn Ir'nd, leek... Posts: 6,287	Amen

23rd January 2004, 15:41	#24
Bizzeh Forum Pirate Beta Team Join Date: Oct 2001 Posts: 2,032	before, justin had the money of aol to back him. now, he doesnt have the AOL chains holding him down, AND has his own money to back him. i have a fealing, justin is planing somthing BIG Wap Server For Winamp 5 :: Kill All The Humans :: Blackpool Hotels

23rd January 2004, 15:47	#25
cmountford The Rapper (Major Dude) Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: St. Louis, MO Posts: 992	agreed...I'm most curious to see how the situation takes shape I'm a DJ. You can DL my mixes free from my website: www.djcmount.com You have the right to refrain from posting unless you write in the "rap battles" thread. Anything you say can and will be used against you in a court by mods.

23rd January 2004, 15:49	#26
unfnknblvbl Member Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: Adelaide, Australia Posts: 69	Justin Frankel John Carmack Two programmers who can do no wrong and are veritable Gods in their respective realms. Thankyou Justin for the time you've spent at Nullsoft and making Winamp the best media player available today. May you find some way to blow our minds with your newfound freedom

23rd January 2004, 15:50	#27
Mr_007 Banned Join Date: Feb 2003 Posts: 2,838	Sorry for this news. my very like justin.

23rd January 2004, 15:53	#28
WhiteRayven Major Dude Join Date: Aug 2003 Posts: 682	I smell Wasabi... Any one else? Why make something idiot proof?? Someone will only make a better idiot!

23rd January 2004, 16:02	#29
dlinkwit27 has no CT (Forum King) Join Date: Sep 2000 Posts: 13,236	I wonder what the contracts were that he was under. AOL may have put in there a clasue about not creating any "rival software" for X years, or working for a rival companyh or something to that affect. ::Deviant Me::Last.fm::WhatPulse Stats::Folding @ Home

23rd January 2004, 16:02	#30
liquidmotion Smokes Two Joints Beta Team Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: SFBA Posts: 3,680	porn. For a good time: shup \| stashbox \| my homepage

23rd January 2004, 16:48	#31
Kaboon Moderator Join Date: Jun 2000 Location: Netherlands Posts: 2,494	53x. berkenpi.es

23rd January 2004, 16:49	#32
Arvenius Junior Member Join Date: Dec 2000 Posts: 34	i heard rumours of him working on a new video-codec especially designed for pron, rumours also has it that this thingy can encode 2hr dvd quality porn to 200mb... but thats only rumours of course =)

23rd January 2004, 16:53	#33
evil_oj Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: Canada Posts: 476	Thanks for everything Justin! Kind of a bummer to hear that you're leaving, but it makes it OK to know that you weren't happy under AOL. I think Winamp will do just fine from here on, cuz you've lead it in the right direction. Winamp has never not been #1 for mp3, and now all sorts of media. Most of my favourite music has been played through Winamp, and music is really important to me, so Winamp too is important to me. Take it easy dude! Thanks again for all the innovation! 5 3 I encode my music in Ogg Vorbis 2 I know enough about music and computers not to like computerized music.

23rd January 2004, 16:54	#34
MasterViVi Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2003 Posts: 290	God, another one gone >_> G'bye Justin

23rd January 2004, 20:12	#35
eleet-2k2 Forum King Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Mobil Ave. Posts: 5,381	Good bye Justin and thank you for all your hard work and dedication! You will be missed. "Welcome to the Island of people who know too much."..."Did you really think balloons would stop him?!" See what I'm listening too.

23rd January 2004, 20:21	#36
s1138 Alumni? Join Date: May 2000 Location: joja Posts: 6,936	mixed feelings... happy he is gonna be free to do what he wants. sad, he wont be part of nullsoft/winamp. it was his creation after all. hopefully we will still see some awesome shit coded by him.