Hidden, Satanic messeges?

squakMix · 22nd April 2004, 03:16

http://albinoblacksheep.com/flash/stairway.php

hgnis · 22nd April 2004, 03:20

Now that is freaky. Is this shit legit?

bored154 · 22nd April 2004, 03:20

woah.....

squakMix · 22nd April 2004, 03:24

Quote:

Originally posted by hgnis
Now that is freaky. Is this shit legit?

Try reversing it yourself, and see.

ryan · 22nd April 2004, 03:28

o.O

Myxomatosis · 22nd April 2004, 03:28

As I was talking to squak... It seems impossible to have so many lines be satanic concidentally (sp?) or maybe they tried to put it in there, but that's unlikely.

...The world may never know...

Loveless · 22nd April 2004, 03:36

Google people.

http://www.positiveatheism.org/crt/cliff73.htm

Ah hah. Now you have to make up your own mind. Whatever shall you do.

squakMix · 22nd April 2004, 03:42

Seriously, Open a wav. editor (nero is packaged with one) and play it backwards.

horse-fly · 22nd April 2004, 04:00

as i have heard, that kind of stuff isn't legal anymore.

stupid government...

Jay · 22nd April 2004, 05:02

Quote:

Originally posted by squakMix
Seriously, Open a wav. editor (nero is packaged with one) and play it backwards.

did so with soundforge, it's legit.

Loveless · 22nd April 2004, 05:13

I hope and pray you are using the term legit loosely, though I do obviously pull my previously posted Google link. I shall, however, find a better one that succinctly states "get real."

mrharhar · 22nd April 2004, 05:25

Oh crap it is real.
Worked with my own copy of the song.

It actually worked.

Jay · 22nd April 2004, 05:30

Quote:

Originally posted by Loveless
I hope and pray you are using the term legit loosely, though I do obviously pull my previously posted Google link. I shall, however, find a better one that succinctly states "get real."

why are you taking this so seriously? I only did this because it sounded interesting. I am not going to fall to my knees and beg the lord led zepplin for forgiveness or start running around saying that led zepplin is associated with the devil. I just find odd coincidences like this amusing, like Pink floyd and the wizard of oz. It's fun.

Too-DAMN-Much · 22nd April 2004, 05:51

/wonders if the satanic message in "chicago" is real too

Jay · 22nd April 2004, 05:59

Quote:

Originally posted by Too-DAMN-Much
/wonders if the satanic message in "chicago" is real too

lol got to love chicago, they do worship the devil though

horse-fly · 22nd April 2004, 06:02

all the better, kxrm

nybergh · 22nd April 2004, 07:12

This one is oooold.

Like 30 years or so... (no, I don't mean the song; the backmasking theory).

I wouldn't care so much about Stairway, but you've got to remember that Jimmy Page (the guitarist of the band) had a mania in owning stuff related to Aleister Crowley (some british satanist/black magic guy from the 19:th century). As far as I rememeber the song In My Time Of Dying (that was published on Physical Graffiti) has the lenght of 11:05,something, at least winamp's MPEG file info box tells me the lenght is 666 seconds, wich I hardly can think of accidential... Especially as In My Time Of Dying is an old blues/gospel song that Led Zeppelin sang maybe to make joke of it. Check out the lyrics if you're interested, not exactly what you'd expect from a hard-rock band...
...But i like the song

BTW Maybe this should be moved to the music-forum?

Vie · 22nd April 2004, 16:27

I just found out my mom and dad actualy knew about this back IN the 70's.

Mike H. · 22nd April 2004, 16:42

Did you actually listen to the song backwards? It does not sound Satanic at all. OK, it does sound like "the one whose little path would make me sad" but that doesn't make any sense. Just accept the fact that Led Zeppelin lyrics don't make sense in either direction and continue enjoying.

xzxzzx · 22nd April 2004, 16:43

*looks for Stairway To Heaven Mp3*
*doesn't find it*

oh well...

nybergh · 22nd April 2004, 16:46

Quote:

I just found out my mom and dad actualy knew about this back IN the 70's.

Vie, do you mean the stairway-thing or that one of in my time of dying?

Syphyr · 22nd April 2004, 16:47

How do you reverse messages using nero's editing program?

horse-fly · 22nd April 2004, 17:00

um... i just converted the file into wav and used the windows sound recorder

Vie · 22nd April 2004, 17:31

Quote:

Originally posted by nybergh
Vie, do you mean the stairway-thing or that one of in my time of dying?

Stairway

xzxzzx · 22nd April 2004, 17:32

Here's the parts extracted from a fairly low quality Mp3:
The parts are there, but without the text, I wouldn't recognize any of the words. Keep in mind that that human mind is very skilled at seeing/hearing things that arn't there (ever look at a cloud looking for something in particular?); that is, the human mind generally tries to fit things it observes into something understandable...

http://xzxzzx.com/fmp3/stairwayforwards.mp3

http://xzxzzx.com/fmp3/stairwaybackwards.mp3

hgnis · 22nd April 2004, 18:25

Now what subliminal messages might Wierd Al be sending in his stuff now.

Too-DAMN-Much · 22nd April 2004, 19:42

Quote:

Originally posted by hgnis
Now what subliminal messages might Wierd Al be sending in his stuff now.

wow there's a thought, mebbe all his songs have messages berating the original people who made them....

Jay · 22nd April 2004, 19:46

nah they probably just have some weird reference to the number 27

LollipopLustKil · 22nd April 2004, 20:11

Odd, considering I found this out last week.

Zepplin's studio engineerer (forget his name now) used to do this all the time on songs. He could somehow take the lyrics and echo them off the guitars and other instruments.

My favorite part of that is the little toolshed part though.

I hear that Sabbath has a TON of backwards messages in their songs though, try searching for those.

Mike H. · 22nd April 2004, 20:24

^ You can hear Black Sabbath's messages just playing it forward.

LollipopLustKil · 22nd April 2004, 20:27

True, but I bet there's even more backwards.

Also, Zepplin had the same studio engineerer as Pink Floyd. I've never tried it, but I bet there are some there too.

morgado · 22nd April 2004, 23:02

That's OLD. There is an Non Governamental Organization here on Brasil that takes these stuff seriuously. It has some law things against MTV Brasil and other things !
Try to take a look in english ...
ONG MENSAGEM SUBLIMINAR

cyu · 22nd April 2004, 23:08

wow..

van der graaf · 23rd April 2004, 00:29

My buddy used to own a record store in redondo beach, CA and he had a Tammy Faye Baker ep sitting around...so we decided to play it backwords one day and...no joke...it said "give me money" as clear as day...funny, but in the end...who really gives a shiite?

Smeggle · 23rd April 2004, 01:45

*YawnS* Not this one again ..very old ...and Ozzy never has bit the head of a Bat - No matter what the idiot media say ....

Another Manufactured bit of rubbish is what I reckon (More truth in that than I probably think) as some one says The human mind plays tricks attempting to 'Fill' in the missing but's - simply here your 'Trying' to hear words - The logical side of your brain is trying to make some sence out of the garbage your playing ( What music/singing sounds like in reverse - Garbage) and so it (the Brain) try's to sort it out it 'Hears' words - summit like that, still won't stop the blue rinse brigade from there battle cry "There corrupting our children@ - just like they were 'Corrupted" with Rock'N'Roll and Swing befor e that, befor e that The Charlston era's - like I say very old and getting boring now.....

~

Fickle · 23rd April 2004, 01:47

big.

fucking.

Deal.

When you play revolution No 9 by the Beatles (White Album), the words "Number 9, Number 9" it sounds like "turn me on Dead Man." IT's just a coincidence. Weird, but true. Also, if they hadn't had the words up on that chart thinger, I wouldn't have been able to find a lot of the meaning.
It's just a curiosity, folks. Nothing more.

Phyltre · 23rd April 2004, 01:59

I agree that probably some of this is people just interpretting random garbage into coherent monologue. However, I must say that I am much more likely to "interpret" things from listening to backwards-played music than I am to interpret something from, say, music in another language. But wouldn't that be essentially the same thing (at least when I don't know the other language?)

I wouldn't put anything past some of these bands, so why worry about it? Frankly, Britney Spears worries me more. I'd play HER music backward, if I had the stomach for it.

squakMix · 23rd April 2004, 02:03

Quote:

Originally posted by Fickle
big.

fucking.

Deal.

I guess when you discover a hidden satanic messege when you play a song backward, it's no deal at all.

what IS a "big deal" in your book?

ryan · 23rd April 2004, 02:06

Fickle -- "Getting Laid"

*hides*

DJ Egg · 23rd April 2004, 03:00

Yeah, this is well old.
Heh. Didn't know about the rest of it, but I remember ~25 years ago a friend of mine having the vinyl, and by manually playing it backwards you can clearly hear "Here's to my sweet Satan" for the line "you can always change the road you're on".

@nybergh
Page even went as far as buying Crowley's old mansion.
Not sure if he still lives in it though...

22nd April 2004, 03:16	#1
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22nd April 2004, 03:20	#2
hgnis Hobbit Humper Forum King Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: banned camp Posts: 4,127	Now that is freaky. Is this shit legit? I am so important I feel the need to let it be known like a liberal discovering the internets for the first time. Uh hur hur hur. I also wash myself with a rag on a stick. Reality bites <3

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22nd April 2004, 03:28	#6
Myxomatosis aka bRiAnFuRY Fuck it dude... let's go bowling. (Major dud) Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 1,162	As I was talking to squak... It seems impossible to have so many lines be satanic concidentally (sp?) or maybe they tried to put it in there, but that's unlikely. ...The world may never know... Alex Jones: Do you want the puppet on the right or the puppet on the left? What a bunch of garbage; liberal democrat, conservative, republican. It's all there to control you! Two sides of the same coin. Two management teams bidding for control, the CEO job of Slavery, Incorporated! The truth is out there in front of you, but they lay out this buffet of lies. I'm sick of it, and I'm not going to take a bite out of it, do you got me?

22nd April 2004, 03:36	#7
Loveless Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2001 Posts: 421	Google people. http://www.positiveatheism.org/crt/cliff73.htm Ah hah. Now you have to make up your own mind. Whatever shall you do. WOT NO FANNY PACKS? (. .) ----------------------w-O-w-----------

22nd April 2004, 03:28	#5
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22nd April 2004, 03:42	#8
squakMix wwwyzzerdd (Forum King) Join Date: May 2003 Posts: 3,458	Seriously, Open a wav. editor (nero is packaged with one) and play it backwards. Check out my music

22nd April 2004, 04:00	#9
horse-fly Account Closed Join Date: Apr 2001 Posts: 2,360	as i have heard, that kind of stuff isn't legal anymore. stupid government...

22nd April 2004, 05:13	#11
Loveless Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2001 Posts: 421	I hope and pray you are using the term legit loosely, though I do obviously pull my previously posted Google link. I shall, however, find a better one that succinctly states "get real." WOT NO FANNY PACKS? (. .) ----------------------w-O-w-----------

22nd April 2004, 05:25	#12
mrharhar Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: From: From: From: From: From: From: From: From: From: From: From: From: From: From: From: From: From: Posts: 233	Oh crap it is real. Worked with my own copy of the song. It actually worked. -there is no signature-

22nd April 2004, 05:51	#14
Too-DAMN-Much The Big Bad Boots (Forum King) Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: 420 Big Buds Way Posts: 3,964	/wonders if the satanic message in "chicago" is real too I hate everyone, so you don't have to.

22nd April 2004, 06:02	#16
horse-fly Account Closed Join Date: Apr 2001 Posts: 2,360	all the better, kxrm

22nd April 2004, 07:12	#17
nybergh Dialup Junkie (Major Dude) Join Date: May 2003 Location: Helsinki, Finland Posts: 1,219	This one is oooold. Like 30 years or so... (no, I don't mean the song; the backmasking theory). I wouldn't care so much about Stairway, but you've got to remember that Jimmy Page (the guitarist of the band) had a mania in owning stuff related to Aleister Crowley (some british satanist/black magic guy from the 19:th century). As far as I rememeber the song In My Time Of Dying (that was published on Physical Graffiti) has the lenght of 11:05,something, at least winamp's MPEG file info box tells me the lenght is 666 seconds, wich I hardly can think of accidential... Especially as In My Time Of Dying is an old blues/gospel song that Led Zeppelin sang maybe to make joke of it. Check out the lyrics if you're interested, not exactly what you'd expect from a hard-rock band... ...But i like the song BTW Maybe this should be moved to the music-forum? See also:Radio Paradise, listener supported aac+ stream\|My home outside IRC\|Last.fm

22nd April 2004, 16:27	#18
Vie Forum King Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Thoron fields and Duranium shadows. Posts: Crap mostly Posts: 8,003	I just found out my mom and dad actualy knew about this back IN the 70's. Member most in need of SpellCheck Lifetime Achievement Award I'm a Twitch Streamer these days, it's weird.

22nd April 2004, 16:42	#19
Mike H. Forum Esperantist (Major Dude) Join Date: Nov 2000 Posts: 1,135	Did you actually listen to the song backwards? It does not sound Satanic at all. OK, it does sound like "the one whose little path would make me sad" but that doesn't make any sense. Just accept the fact that Led Zeppelin lyrics don't make sense in either direction and continue enjoying.

22nd April 2004, 16:43	#20
xzxzzx Forum King Join Date: Aug 2002 Posts: 7,254	looks for Stairway To Heaven Mp3 doesn't find it oh well... Freedom of speech is the basic freedom of humanity. When you've lost that, you've lost everything. 1\/\/4y 34\|<$p4y 1gp4y 33714y, 0d4y 0uy4y? \| Roses are #FF0000; Violets are #0000FF; chown -R ${YOU} ~/base The DMCA. It really is that bad. : Count for your life.

22nd April 2004, 16:47	#22
Syphyr Junior Member Join Date: Apr 2004 Posts: 3	How do you reverse messages using nero's editing program?

22nd April 2004, 17:00	#23
horse-fly Account Closed Join Date: Apr 2001 Posts: 2,360	um... i just converted the file into wav and used the windows sound recorder

22nd April 2004, 17:32	#25
xzxzzx Forum King Join Date: Aug 2002 Posts: 7,254	Here's the parts extracted from a fairly low quality Mp3: The parts are there, but without the text, I wouldn't recognize any of the words. Keep in mind that that human mind is very skilled at seeing/hearing things that arn't there (ever look at a cloud looking for something in particular?); that is, the human mind generally tries to fit things it observes into something understandable... http://xzxzzx.com/fmp3/stairwayforwards.mp3 http://xzxzzx.com/fmp3/stairwaybackwards.mp3 Freedom of speech is the basic freedom of humanity. When you've lost that, you've lost everything. 1\/\/4y 34\|<$p4y 1gp4y 33714y, 0d4y 0uy4y? \| Roses are #FF0000; Violets are #0000FF; chown -R ${YOU} ~/base The DMCA. It really is that bad. : Count for your life.

22nd April 2004, 18:25	#26
hgnis Hobbit Humper Forum King Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: banned camp Posts: 4,127	Now what subliminal messages might Wierd Al be sending in his stuff now. I am so important I feel the need to let it be known like a liberal discovering the internets for the first time. Uh hur hur hur. I also wash myself with a rag on a stick. Reality bites <3

22nd April 2004, 19:46	#28
Jay Moderator Alumni Join Date: May 2000 Location: Next Door Posts: 8,942	nah they probably just have some weird reference to the number 27 -Jay \| Radio Toolbox.com

22nd April 2004, 20:11	#29
LollipopLustKil Insomniac (Forum King) Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Ohio Posts: 3,033	Odd, considering I found this out last week. Zepplin's studio engineerer (forget his name now) used to do this all the time on songs. He could somehow take the lyrics and echo them off the guitars and other instruments. My favorite part of that is the little toolshed part though. I hear that Sabbath has a TON of backwards messages in their songs though, try searching for those. Scotty Doesn't Know

22nd April 2004, 20:24	#30
Mike H. Forum Esperantist (Major Dude) Join Date: Nov 2000 Posts: 1,135	^ You can hear Black Sabbath's messages just playing it forward.

22nd April 2004, 20:27	#31
LollipopLustKil Insomniac (Forum King) Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Ohio Posts: 3,033	True, but I bet there's even more backwards. Also, Zepplin had the same studio engineerer as Pink Floyd. I've never tried it, but I bet there are some there too. Scotty Doesn't Know

22nd April 2004, 23:02	#32
morgado Major Dude Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: away from my baby Posts: 1,097	That's OLD. There is an Non Governamental Organization here on Brasil that takes these stuff seriuously. It has some law things against MTV Brasil and other things ! Try to take a look in english ... ONG MENSAGEM SUBLIMINAR I Love You Ana Luiza MSN

22nd April 2004, 23:08	#33
cyu Major Dude Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: in front of my pc Posts: 1,617	wow..

23rd April 2004, 00:29	#34
van der graaf Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2004 Posts: 130	My buddy used to own a record store in redondo beach, CA and he had a Tammy Faye Baker ep sitting around...so we decided to play it backwords one day and...no joke...it said "give me money" as clear as day...funny, but in the end...who really gives a shiite?

23rd April 2004, 01:45	#35
Smeggle Just Strolling By (Major Dude) Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: A Long Winding Road..... Posts: 3,259	YawnS Not this one again ..very old ...and Ozzy never has bit the head of a Bat - No matter what the idiot media say .... Another Manufactured bit of rubbish is what I reckon (More truth in that than I probably think) as some one says The human mind plays tricks attempting to 'Fill' in the missing but's - simply here your 'Trying' to hear words - The logical side of your brain is trying to make some sence out of the garbage your playing ( What music/singing sounds like in reverse - Garbage) and so it (the Brain) try's to sort it out it 'Hears' words - summit like that, still won't stop the blue rinse brigade from there battle cry "There corrupting our children@ - just like they were 'Corrupted" with Rock'N'Roll and Swing befor e that, befor e that The Charlston era's - like I say very old and getting boring now..... ~ Music is Life, Love and Happiness :\|: Life is Music. Serren - 1985 - 2005 Religion? Religion is a Blasphemy against humanity - From the film What the Bleep do we know siggy link So stumbling? whats it all about

23rd April 2004, 01:47	#36
Fickle Butterknife of Justice (Forum King) Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Behind you. Posts: 5,502	big. fucking. Deal. When you play revolution No 9 by the Beatles (White Album), the words "Number 9, Number 9" it sounds like "turn me on Dead Man." IT's just a coincidence. Weird, but true. Also, if they hadn't had the words up on that chart thinger, I wouldn't have been able to find a lot of the meaning. It's just a curiosity, folks. Nothing more. Go read a book without pictures pabook? \| Look, a blog! \| Buy Stuff I Wrote

23rd April 2004, 01:59	#37
Phyltre Forum King Join Date: Sep 2002 Posts: 2,751	I agree that probably some of this is people just interpretting random garbage into coherent monologue. However, I must say that I am much more likely to "interpret" things from listening to backwards-played music than I am to interpret something from, say, music in another language. But wouldn't that be essentially the same thing (at least when I don't know the other language?) I wouldn't put anything past some of these bands, so why worry about it? Frankly, Britney Spears worries me more. I'd play HER music backward, if I had the stomach for it.

23rd April 2004, 02:06	#39
ryan not fucked, not quite. (Forum King) Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Missouri via Tennessee Posts: 8,813	Fickle -- "Getting Laid" hides

23rd April 2004, 03:00	#40
DJ Egg Techorator Winamp & Shoutcast Team Join Date: Jun 2000 Posts: 35,894	Yeah, this is well old. Heh. Didn't know about the rest of it, but I remember ~25 years ago a friend of mine having the vinyl, and by manually playing it backwards you can clearly hear "Here's to my sweet Satan" for the line "you can always change the road you're on". @nybergh Page even went as far as buying Crowley's old mansion. Not sure if he still lives in it though... Playlist -\|- Twitter

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