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Old 29th July 2004, 19:49   #1
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bug tester please! :)

Surprise! new skin

A company (www.TemplateMonster.com) approached me last week or so and asked me to make a skin for them, and I agreed. I've almost finished it, and I'd like for someone to bug-test it if possible

They need the skin soon, so I basically need to finish it in the next few hours, as I won't have time in the next several days to work on it. So if someone has the chance to bug-test it soon, that would be terrific

All windows are skinned except for VIDEO and cursors (both of which I'm going to be working on now).

Suggestions regarding aesthetics and/or usability are welcome, but keep them straightforward, as I plan to complete the skin very soon

Thanks!
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Old 29th July 2004, 20:04   #2
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Amazing design stillwater. I like the volume bar alot, and the colors go together well. Can't find any bugs, good work on it.
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Old 29th July 2004, 20:18   #3
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i like those fading playlist squares alot!...really nice effect.

everything looks great and it stays true to the site fairly well.

only little annoyance is how the red "flap" in the playlist titlebar middle touches the blue border.....i would lower it so it has a few lines of white in between the red and blue. notice how the red doesnt touch the blue anywhere else in the skin?...

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Old 29th July 2004, 21:22   #4
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Well, this between a couple and a few hours later, so I hope I made it . . .

First of all, it looks bug free to me. Second of all, I think it looks great; I can't see why the website wouldn't be happy with it. Both usability and aesthetic are excellent. I remain everjealous of your balances and volumes.

Some suggestions: I'm not too keen on the min/max buttons turning red when selected. Nothing on the site really does that - mouseovers and selections usually turn lighter or darker blue and personally, I think it looks better than the red inside those buttons.

The title font in the unhighlighted media window (dark red font against the red background) is a bit tough to read.

You can put this right in the "not at all straightforward and most likely very time consuming category", but it would be nice to see the vis background in the Main expanded a bit so it can "curl" like the titles in the Eq, Playlist and Library. I just think it would pull the skin together that much more.

This kinda looks like a big deal. Good luck with it.
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Old 29th July 2004, 21:23   #5
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I like! Only thing that bugs me is the asymmetry of the open button arrows even though its in the middle of the skin. I like the playlist menus, very cool

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Old 29th July 2004, 22:10   #6
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Thanks everyone I appreciate the bug-tests and comments

I sent the skin off before NIS's post, so the only suggestion I had a chance to use was xeno's playlist one, which I used. Though I may update the skin, depending on how much they like this version.

And bummer! Just minutes after I sent it, I found a bug. It's a tiny one, but one that I think does detract from the skin's usability, if only by a tiny bit: the colon in the PL time display is missing. I don't know what's more annoying: the fact that it's a mere two forgotten pixels, the fact that I noticed it minutes after sending, or the fact that I forget that damn colon with almost every skin I complete


I doubt anyone cares, but I said on a different thread recently that I only had one more winamp skin to make before I hung up my winamp skinning boots for good (which is no longer true anyway, due to the Nostalgia contest). The TemplateMonster.com skin, however, was not the one that I meant. I've recently been working on another skin, which I aim to finish before the boots get hung up as well. I'll post a screenshot in case anyone has any feedback about it.
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Old 29th July 2004, 22:16   #7
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nice perspective on the main window.

to help the "depth" look you could make the whole main window darker than the eq to make it look like it goes "in"

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Old 29th July 2004, 23:06   #8
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I always forget that colon too. I don't think it's a huge deal, 'cause the colon is there in both the Main and Playlist winshade modes, so no matter how the skin is displayed, you'll always have one window with coloned time. But isn't fun to wildly obsess about the little things?

The new skin looks superkeen. I love the Main and the whole funky (simple and clean!) control panel look. I've tried getting a similar depth effect on a skin with zero success. So kudos. This skin strikes me as suitable for a million different colour versions. (Think about it. Please.)

Only suggestion at this point. Back off a bit on the gel highlights. They need a bit more transparency for a more natural look.
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Old 30th July 2004, 04:33   #9
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first skin, as people said, looks good, and no bugs.

second skin. Download++ from me if you finish it
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Old 30th July 2004, 06:33   #10
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Skin looks good, maybe consider giving it a titlebar that sticks out more to heighten the illusion of depth.

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Old 9th August 2004, 15:43   #11
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...But isn't fun to wildly obsess about the little things? .
That's the essence of skinning, isn't it?


I've added cursors and changed a couple of little things. It's now published:
http://www.1001winampskins.com/skin_...l?skin_id=3361
http://www.deviantart.com/view/9620658/

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Old 10th August 2004, 16:10   #12
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I just downloaded from winamp site. I found bug(maybe).
Tested with wa5.04, color of inside library is something wrong.
You should fill the color of white divider of pixel row into background color(light blue).
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Old 10th August 2004, 18:51   #13
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That's weird, because it's white on my computer.
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Old 10th August 2004, 22:30   #14
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I've attached a screenshot of how it looks on mine. Almost everything is different on yours - even the buttons, which are BMP. Are the buttons different simply because of the GIF screenshot? Or are they actually yellowish on your computer?

I don't know why the background is black on yours. Does it really happen only on my skin?

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Old 10th August 2004, 22:33   #15
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Oops! I didn't just forget to attach the screenshot - I forgot to make the screenshot

Here it is:
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Old 11th August 2004, 08:18   #16
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Almost everything is different on yours - even the buttons, which are BMP. Are the buttons different simply because of the GIF screenshot? Or are they actually yellowish on your computer?
Don't mind about the buttons, it's cause of gif format.

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Does it really happen only on my skin?
Here are example, but those skin were published before wa5 released.

http://www.winamp.com/skins/details.php?id=136750
http://www.winamp.com/skins/details.php?id=136433
http://www.1001winampskins.com/skin_...l?skin_id=2397

I edited the background color of genex.bmp, problem was solved.
Everyone in this thread haven't pointed out this problem, so this maybe my system's problem. I will try full uninstall and reinstall with no 3rd party plugins later, and will check it again.

P.S. Do you understand my broken English? I'm really worried about that.
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Old 11th August 2004, 14:37   #17
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Full unintall > Delete temporary internet files > Download wa5.04full > Reinstall >
Run Winamp > Download Templatemonster skin

nothing has changed. weird.
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Old 11th August 2004, 16:13   #18
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When you say nothing changed, do you mean you had the same problem as before, or nothing bad happened to the skin this time?

Anyway, I'm really liking this skin StillWater. I use it all the time now, and I like the new cursors. Very cool.
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Old 11th August 2004, 17:50   #19
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Problem is still exist.@I don't know why the reason but forget about it,
when I edited background color of genex.bmp, problem is solved.

I agree with you HaloHQ, animation cursor is very cool.
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Old 11th August 2004, 17:50   #20
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I remember hearing somewhere that it's really important that the background color of genex.bmp stayed the same.

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Old 13th August 2004, 00:20   #21
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WooooA

I saw the preview of your template monster skin at 1K1WS and (i couldt test the bugs but) It looked so smooth and easy to use... I think it's a great website skin...

Well...about the copernic one...It's colours are the same as in the plastik one?no complains about it...
...It looks great!I'm anxious to see some animations in there...

nothing more to say...
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Old 15th August 2004, 00:11   #22
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Old 15th August 2004, 02:57   #23
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Hey man - thanks for the contest plug!
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Old 16th August 2004, 12:55   #24
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And thanks for my plug too. Much appreciated :-D

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Old 17th August 2004, 20:11   #25
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I seem to have the same black Library background problem. Buttons are the same tho.
Got the skin from 1001WS.
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