AMD Displays 1st Dual Core Chips

EfaustuS9 · 31st August 2004, 06:57

Once again AMD has beaten Intel to the punch, by displaying the first working dual core system.

http://www.theinquirer.net/?article=18169

MStar · 31st August 2004, 06:57

I like the big Intel ad on that story ^.^

J_Darnley · 31st August 2004, 10:12

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Originally posted by MStar
I like the big Intel ad on that story ^.^

Ads? What ads?
Hmm... Desktops in 2005. Might have to look further into that.

mikm · 31st August 2004, 15:48

Good ol' Adblock. I'll just get a server chip that supports it so I have the option to go dual-processor.

I also heard that the AMD chips will have dual caches, which I heard is a bad thing :/

Smeggle · 31st August 2004, 16:19

I picked this up on Intel chips last night from yahoo...

Intel Announces Chip Shrinking Milestone

Quote:

SAN JOSE, Calif. - Contradicting fears that the semiconductor industry's pace of development is slowing, Intel Corp. announced it has achieved a milestone in shrinking the size of transistors that will power its next-generation chips.

The Santa Clara, Calif.-based company said Monday it has created a fully functional 70 megabit memory chip with transistor switches measuring just 35 nanometers — about 30 percent smaller than those found on today's state-of-the-art chips.

By shrinking the size of the transistors and other features etched into the silicon, more of the tiny devices can be squeezed onto a single chip. As a result, microprocessors become more powerful and memory chips can store more data without growing in size.

Interesting stuff - wonder when moores law is gonna be broken? can't go on forever. There's bound to be a stage where it just won't go any further,

~

General Geoff · 31st August 2004, 17:14

When the boundaries of science are encountered as far as chip-making goes, then the industry will turn to alternative methods on how to make faster chips. Better logic, more efficient programming and instruction sets, etc...

mikm · 31st August 2004, 18:19

Quantum computing...

J_Darnley · 31st August 2004, 18:24

Organic computing...

billyvnilly · 31st August 2004, 18:50

i agree w/ Darnley...organic is the way to go...

anyone? was this in a movie or is this real? i remeber hearing about jets that would use organic microchips...(they would have to be kept at 0 C) upon crash they would be useless and melt. or this just a goal?

mikm · 31st August 2004, 18:51

Then your computer could get two kinds of viruses

CaboWaboAddict · 31st August 2004, 18:56

Quote:

Originally posted by billyvnilly
i agree w/ Darnley...organic is the way to go...

anyone? was this in a movie or is this real? i remeber hearing about jets that would use organic microchips...(they would have to be kept at 0 C) upon crash they would be useless and melt. or this just a goal?

Star Trek?

J_Darnley · 31st August 2004, 19:53

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Originally posted by CaboWaboAddict
Star Trek?

Partly. I went to a lecture at my school about organic conductors and semi-conductors. They were very basic in the form of glowing diodes.
But this is getting off-topic now.

dylman · 31st August 2004, 20:28

I have a friend who did his Ph.D on organic semiconductors. Apparently they're going to be very big in display technology, especially foldable/rollable computer displays.

ScorLibran · 31st August 2004, 20:35

I'm just glad they were able to capture the test data before the prototype melted through the system board.

But seriously, I'm curious about the operating temperature range of this new CPU, and average running temps for both idle and load. (The "details" page doesn't say.)

I really hope AMD can consistently build cooler-running CPUs while maintaining the high-performance everyone expects based on their other product lines. As long as VIA chipsets are avoided, they've mostly beaten the compatibility issues that plagued them in past years. If they can make cooler chips, keep making them faster, and keep the prices just below those of Intel, they'll dominate the small system processor market within 5 years.

At least things are better now than in K6-2 days. Even when you weren't having hardware compatibility problems (which were way too frequent), overclocking still required active fire suppression to be near by.

Myxomatosis · 31st August 2004, 22:35

Quote:

Originally posted by mikm
Good ol' Adblock. I'll just get a server chip that supports it so I have the option to go dual-processor.

I also heard that the AMD chips will have dual caches, which I heard is a bad thing :/

Actually its the other way around, single caches are bad becuase core will usually "fight" over usage.

Remember, Athlon 64 FX = Operton So Dual cores for high end computing not far away.

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General Geoff Major Dude Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Allentown, Pennsylvania Posts: 1,254	When the boundaries of science are encountered as far as chip-making goes, then the industry will turn to alternative methods on how to make faster chips. Better logic, more efficient programming and instruction sets, etc...

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billyvnilly Forum King, M.D. Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Detroit burbs Posts: 3,379	i agree w/ Darnley...organic is the way to go... anyone? was this in a movie or is this real? i remeber hearing about jets that would use organic microchips...(they would have to be kept at 0 C) upon crash they would be useless and melt. or this just a goal?

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ScorLibran Resident Floydian Join Date: Aug 2003 Posts: 6,222	I'm just glad they were able to capture the test data before the prototype melted through the system board. But seriously, I'm curious about the operating temperature range of this new CPU, and average running temps for both idle and load. (The "details" page doesn't say.) I really hope AMD can consistently build cooler-running CPUs while maintaining the high-performance everyone expects based on their other product lines. As long as VIA chipsets are avoided, they've mostly beaten the compatibility issues that plagued them in past years. If they can make cooler chips, keep making them faster, and keep the prices just below those of Intel, they'll dominate the small system processor market within 5 years. At least things are better now than in K6-2 days. Even when you weren't having hardware compatibility problems (which were way too frequent), overclocking still required active fire suppression to be near by. I'm a psychosomatic sister running around without a leash.

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