Was Darwin Wrong?

Russ · 8th November 2004, 23:07

cyu · 8th November 2004, 23:08

ryan · 8th November 2004, 23:08

Nice

SSJ4 Gogitta · 9th November 2004, 00:32

I want the map... Haven't had a good map of the world in a long time.

aFfLiCtEd · 9th November 2004, 00:36

I'm tempted to say that it's "just" a theory.

mikm · 9th November 2004, 00:48

A theory with enough credible evidence that every (afaik) accredited university in the country supports.

aFfLiCtEd · 9th November 2004, 00:55

lol . . . I was quoting line 6&7 of the article.

squakMix · 9th November 2004, 00:57

hah, nice Russ

mikm · 9th November 2004, 01:03

Quote:

Originally posted by aFfLiCtEd
lol . . . I was quoting line 6&7 of the article.

Ahh...missed that

S-uper_T-oast · 9th November 2004, 01:41

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Over 98% of practicing biologists believe in the basic principles of neo-Darwinian evolution, but over 76% of Americans disagree.

http://www.evolutionexperiment.com/

Damn I hate my country sometimes...

Mattress · 9th November 2004, 04:45

I think it's a bad argument to compare the theory of evolution and the theory of relativity. Relativity is a mathematical formula that equations can be run amd then the results can be tested in an experiment. Or is that wrong?

Evolution is a theory about the origin of life on this planet, there aren't any numbers to run, there's no equation to plug it into and then test the results, like if life started on x billion years BC and evolution occurs at a rate of y, and extinction occurs at a rate of z then we could run that equation and get the number of different species that should exist on the planet today. right?

I'm not saying evolution is wrong, I'm saying it's a poor comparison.

or are there equations that can be run using the theory of evolution?

Jaak · 9th November 2004, 04:55

Quote:

Originally posted by Mattress
I think it's a bad argument to compare the theory of evolution and the theory of relativity. Relativity is a mathematical formula that equations can be run amd then the results can be tested in an experiment. Or is that wrong?

Evolution is a theory about the origin of life on this planet, there aren't any numbers to run, there's no equation to plug it into and then test the results, like if life started on x billion years BC and evolution occurs at a rate of y, and extinction occurs at a rate of z then we could run that equation and get the number of different species that should exist on the planet today. right?

I'm not saying evolution is wrong, I'm saying it's a poor comparison.

or are there equations that can be run using the theory of evolution?

imho relativity is much harder to proove that evolution, because relativity doesnt make sense when distances are very small, that where string teory comes in, but thats another subject and discussion.
For me evolutions has be pooven enough, already comparing DNA-s of spicies is proof enough... if your not familiar with darwn theory you really should read about it, it makes a lot of sense.
I cant think how somebody could possiby believe in sucha *cough*bullshit as creational evolution, ofcourse 'merica is quite a surprising country

Now i better run now, late to school

shakey_snake · 9th November 2004, 05:09

Was Darwin Wrong? As a Christian I can say no.
But then again, Darwin never said anything about the evolution of all spieces from a primordial soup.
Darwin wouldn't recognize his theory today. But then again, Darwin was a priest, not an atheist.

Mattress · 9th November 2004, 05:16

As any physicist will gladly tell you the universe goes toward entropy and disorder.

fwgx · 9th November 2004, 06:28

LOL shaky_snake and Mattress. Perhaps some study of closed systems, synchronisation in nature, complex systems and perhaps evolution would mean you didn't make yourself look foolish in the future.

ShyShy · 9th November 2004, 06:35

Quote:

Originally posted by shakey_snake
Was Darwin Wrong? As a Christian I can say no.
But then again, Darwin never said anything about the evolution of all spieces from a primordial soup.
Darwin wouldn't recognize his theory today. But then again, Darwin was a priest, not an atheist.

You'll have to find a copy of that article, cause it does say that Darwin did study to become a pastor, but after his travels, became an agnostic. But, he never said it outloud cause his wife would've whupped him one. She was a firm church-goer

will · 9th November 2004, 08:47

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Originally posted by Mattress
As any physicist will gladly tell you the universe goes toward entropy and disorder.

Don't go talking about things you clearly don't understand.

This part of thermodymanics is relating to fact that heat is the most disordered form of energy. And that when energy is transformed from one form to another, some is wasted as heat.

This does NOT refer to the organisation of atoms in beings and planets.

The earth is not a closed system, the sun dumps HUGE amounts of energy on the earth every day.

Widdykats · 9th November 2004, 11:22

Quote:

Originally posted by S-uper_T-oast
http://www.evolutionexperiment.com/

Damn I hate my country sometimes...

Yep!

MagnumOne · 9th November 2004, 14:49

I Guess You'll Have To Wait And Find Out The Real Truth On Darwin's Theory..100% Factual..

The consideration to that *Fact* is this though.....

You Have To Die First.....LOL!!..Which is always *Too Late*

Or...... Not

...Hmmm!! Decisions,Decisions..??

Mattress · 9th November 2004, 16:08

I was under the impression that matter was a form of energy.

I guess I'm just a big dumb idiot.

will · 9th November 2004, 16:51

Quote:

Originally posted by Mattress
I was under the impression that matter was a form of energy.

I guess I'm just a big dumb idiot.

Matter is a form of energy, but the organisation of matter does not contribute to its entropy. (on the human scale, at least)

Entropy is about ENERGY not evolution.

SSJ4 Gogitta · 9th November 2004, 17:22

Oooo, Ahhhh...

xzxzzx · 9th November 2004, 17:43

Quote:

Originally posted by Mattress
As any physicist will gladly tell you the universe goes toward entropy and disorder.

You're right, and eventually the sun will burn out and that will be the end of life on Earth.

hgnis · 9th November 2004, 18:12

Quote:

Originally posted by Russ
Was Darwin Wrong?

A walk down any street here will give the obvious answer: YES.

morgado · 9th November 2004, 20:18

Was he wrong ?! Dunno .. Who am I to tell this. you ppl here have high I.Q. discussions here .... or ...
No, I'm just to tired to try to understand all this ... But nice magazine !

Myxomatosis · 9th November 2004, 22:12

Yes, Darwin was wrong. Dinosaurs are just a conspiracy to throw us off...

S-uper_T-oast · 9th November 2004, 22:32

Gogitta, that Earth at night picture is really cool looking!

9th November 2004, 22:59

76% of America doesn't believe in evolution? That's crazy! I'm a practicing Catholic and I believe in evolution. Going by what my Theology teacher taught me last year, so does the Catholic Church, at least to an extent. It only contends that God directed the course of evolution and was responsible for the creation of the basic components from which we evolved. The Bible's Creationistic principles are antequated and now really only serve the purpose of teaching about God's love, etc.

However, I can be horribly, horribly wrong on my understanding of Evolution, so please forgive me if that is the case.

Russ · 9th November 2004, 23:03

Furthermore:

Quote:

Only 37 percent of the polled Americans were satisfied with allowing room for both God and Darwin—that is, divine initiative to get things started, evolution as the creative means. (This view, according to more than one papal pronouncement, is compatible with Roman Catholic dogma.)

10th November 2004, 00:10

Quote:

Originally posted by Russ
This view, according to more than one papal pronouncement, is compatible with Roman Catholic dogma.

Awesome. I was right. Thank you, Russ.

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Mattress Forum King Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Milwaukee Posts: 4,577	I think it's a bad argument to compare the theory of evolution and the theory of relativity. Relativity is a mathematical formula that equations can be run amd then the results can be tested in an experiment. Or is that wrong? Evolution is a theory about the origin of life on this planet, there aren't any numbers to run, there's no equation to plug it into and then test the results, like if life started on x billion years BC and evolution occurs at a rate of y, and extinction occurs at a rate of z then we could run that equation and get the number of different species that should exist on the planet today. right? I'm not saying evolution is wrong, I'm saying it's a poor comparison. or are there equations that can be run using the theory of evolution? Besides shooting out a big blank from your buttock, you can feel as if your root chakra leaked sweet hot mucus.

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SSJ4 Gogitta Followed by Gnomes (Forum King) Join Date: Dec 2000 Location: West Virginia Googolplex: 10^10¹°° FB:/SSJ4.DominusDeus DeviantArt: DominusDeus XboX GT: A Wild Meeseeks Playstation 4: DominusDeus Posts: 7,162	I want the map... Haven't had a good map of the world in a long time.

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aFfLiCtEd Major Dude Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Over Here Posts: 876	I'm tempted to say that it's "just" a theory.

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aFfLiCtEd Major Dude Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Over Here Posts: 876	lol . . . I was quoting line 6&7 of the article.

9th November 2004, 05:16	#14
Mattress Forum King Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Milwaukee Posts: 4,577	As any physicist will gladly tell you the universe goes toward entropy and disorder. Besides shooting out a big blank from your buttock, you can feel as if your root chakra leaked sweet hot mucus.

9th November 2004, 06:28	#15
fwgx Rudolf the Red. (Forum King) Join Date: Nov 2000 Posts: 9,314	LOL shaky_snake and Mattress. Perhaps some study of closed systems, synchronisation in nature, complex systems and perhaps evolution would mean you didn't make yourself look foolish in the future. "We think science is interesting and if you disagree, you can fuck off."

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MagnumOne Banned Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: LMAO!..In Canada Posts: 557	Was Darwin Wrong..?? I Guess You'll Have To Wait And Find Out The Real Truth On Darwin's Theory..100% Factual.. The consideration to that Fact is this though..... You Have To Die First.....LOL!!..Which is always Too Late Or...... Not ...Hmmm!! Decisions,Decisions..??

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Mattress Forum King Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Milwaukee Posts: 4,577	I was under the impression that matter was a form of energy. I guess I'm just a big dumb idiot. Besides shooting out a big blank from your buttock, you can feel as if your root chakra leaked sweet hot mucus.

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9th November 2004, 22:59	#28
toejam07 Guest Posts: n/a	76% of America doesn't believe in evolution? That's crazy! I'm a practicing Catholic and I believe in evolution. Going by what my Theology teacher taught me last year, so does the Catholic Church, at least to an extent. It only contends that God directed the course of evolution and was responsible for the creation of the basic components from which we evolved. The Bible's Creationistic principles are antequated and now really only serve the purpose of teaching about God's love, etc. However, I can be horribly, horribly wrong on my understanding of Evolution, so please forgive me if that is the case.

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