Save AVS...!!!

MaTTFURY · 5th December 2004, 02:13

Save the AVS, i been hearing rumours of you deciding NOT to re-do AVS ? can u release the source code or something???!

mikm · 5th December 2004, 02:29

AVS will not be ditched, but it will probably not be developed further aside from bug fixes.

The source code won't be relased, as it will cause compatibility problems with many different versions flying around (just like how most software isn't compatible across Linux distros without seperate compiles).

Also, keep in mind that the AVS code is very mature, and it is doubtful that somebody who has never seen it before can do much to improve it.

MaTTFURY · 5th December 2004, 06:04

what about Jaak he's the master of avs, c++ etc (linux)

mikm · 6th December 2004, 12:20

What about UnConeD?

DrO · 6th December 2004, 13:04

Quote:

Originally posted by mikm
The source code won't be relased

that's partially true, all of the code won't be released but... the expression evaluation library (NS-EEL) was released publically back when 5.04 came out (there's at least a copy in the sdk installer i make.

also what's this crap of 'deciding NOT to re-do AVS'?? i don't see AVS being ditched from the Winamp distro so whoever said that needs to be sorted out if you know what i mean...

-daz

MaTTFURY · 6th December 2004, 21:32

i see it piece by piece crumbling away...

mikm · 6th December 2004, 21:51

For example?

DrO · 6th December 2004, 21:55

Quote:

Originally posted by MaTTFURY
i see it piece by piece crumbling away...

please do explain this since i've no idea of what you're talking about??

-daz

DJ Egg · 6th December 2004, 22:02

Maybe he's talking about his brain?

MaTTFURY · 6th December 2004, 23:03

im sorry maybe ill clarify next time :P, i was talking about the amount of people who cant be bothered to read pak-9's manual (770#) words... or dirkdeftlys

DJ Egg · 6th December 2004, 23:06

Yeah, right

Tell ya what, let's move this from the Wishlist to AVS forum...

Jaak · 7th December 2004, 07:58

Quote:

Originally posted by MaTTFURY
what about Jaak he's the master of avs, c++ etc (linux)

WHAT THE FUCK?

Warrior of the Light · 7th December 2004, 08:08

heh lol. looks like you got promotion

Isn't this subject overdiscussed already? please lock this before the biggest flaming ever begins

UnConeD · 7th December 2004, 13:39

AVS is (c) nullsoft, but everyone who developed on it has left. It's unlikely there will be updates. AVS is not going to be open-sourced because AVS is a valuable asset to Winamp, and the competition between media players is fierce.

However, maybe in the future the community might make a vis. I have some code lying around that I might pick up after my exams in January

.

I agree about Jaak's skills though. The skills shown off in Jaak's third pack is just crazy.

PAK-9 · 7th December 2004, 17:57

I would seriously consider e-mailing AOL/Winamp developers with your queries about AVS, they may be happy to persue development with a third party or otherwise. Provided you give them a reason, the community, benefits to their product etc.. they will have a reason to listen to you.

Anything posted here is speculation and discussion, and therefore will get you no closer to 'saving' AVS.

NemoOrange · 10th December 2004, 05:08

still dreaming of that magical community-visualizer . . .

MaTTFURY · 10th December 2004, 07:01

lol

PAK-9 · 11th December 2004, 16:08

Quote:

Originally posted by NemoOrange
still dreaming of that magical community-visualizer . . .

And fridges might fly.

*cough* sorry I mean 'pigs'.

5th December 2004, 02:13	#1
MaTTFURY Major Dude Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Australia, Posts: 1,356	Save AVS...!!! Save the AVS, i been hearing rumours of you deciding NOT to re-do AVS ? can u release the source code or something???! i am not normal, no really.

5th December 2004, 02:29	#2
mikm Major Dude Join Date: May 2001 Location: somewhere else Posts: 1,286	AVS will not be ditched, but it will probably not be developed further aside from bug fixes. The source code won't be relased, as it will cause compatibility problems with many different versions flying around (just like how most software isn't compatible across Linux distros without seperate compiles). Also, keep in mind that the AVS code is very mature, and it is doubtful that somebody who has never seen it before can do much to improve it. powered by C₈H₁₀N₄O₂

5th December 2004, 06:04	#3
MaTTFURY Major Dude Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Australia, Posts: 1,356	what about Jaak he's the master of avs, c++ etc (linux) i am not normal, no really.

6th December 2004, 12:20	#4
mikm Major Dude Join Date: May 2001 Location: somewhere else Posts: 1,286	What about UnConeD? powered by C₈H₁₀N₄O₂

6th December 2004, 21:32	#6
MaTTFURY Major Dude Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Australia, Posts: 1,356	i see it piece by piece crumbling away... i am not normal, no really.

6th December 2004, 21:51	#7
mikm Major Dude Join Date: May 2001 Location: somewhere else Posts: 1,286	For example? powered by C₈H₁₀N₄O₂

6th December 2004, 22:02	#9
DJ Egg Techorator Winamp & Shoutcast Team Join Date: Jun 2000 Posts: 35,894	Maybe he's talking about his brain? Playlist -\|- Twitter

6th December 2004, 23:03	#10
MaTTFURY Major Dude Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Australia, Posts: 1,356	im sorry maybe ill clarify next time :P, i was talking about the amount of people who cant be bothered to read pak-9's manual (770#) words... or dirkdeftlys i am not normal, no really.

6th December 2004, 23:06	#11
DJ Egg Techorator Winamp & Shoutcast Team Join Date: Jun 2000 Posts: 35,894	Yeah, right Tell ya what, let's move this from the Wishlist to AVS forum... Playlist -\|- Twitter

7th December 2004, 08:08	#13
Warrior of the Light Forum King Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: The Netherlands Posts: 4,121	heh lol. looks like you got promotion Isn't this subject overdiscussed already? please lock this before the biggest flaming ever begins Jesus loves you [yes, you] so much, he even died for you so that you will not need to die, but live forever

7th December 2004, 13:39	#14
UnConeD Whacked Moderator Join Date: Jun 2001 Posts: 2,104	AVS is (c) nullsoft, but everyone who developed on it has left. It's unlikely there will be updates. AVS is not going to be open-sourced because AVS is a valuable asset to Winamp, and the competition between media players is fierce. However, maybe in the future the community might make a vis. I have some code lying around that I might pick up after my exams in January . I agree about Jaak's skills though. The skills shown off in Jaak's third pack is just crazy.

7th December 2004, 17:57	#15
PAK-9 Major Dude Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: The United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland Posts: 1,374	I would seriously consider e-mailing AOL/Winamp developers with your queries about AVS, they may be happy to persue development with a third party or otherwise. Provided you give them a reason, the community, benefits to their product etc.. they will have a reason to listen to you. Anything posted here is speculation and discussion, and therefore will get you no closer to 'saving' AVS. http://PAK-9.deviantart.com ...innit

10th December 2004, 05:08	#16
NemoOrange Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Philadelphia, USA Posts: 135	still dreaming of that magical community-visualizer . . .

10th December 2004, 07:01	#17
MaTTFURY Major Dude Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Australia, Posts: 1,356	lol i am not normal, no really.

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