Need consultancy

[bingo]

Hi,

For my business I will need the help of a consultant to fix some troubles :
1/ find the proper encoding settings and bitrate
2/ way to provide a fluent stream between videos
3/ establish a method document for employees to produce videos

Please can you contact me by PM with :
1/ your hourly rate
2/ your TAX ID
3/ some information about your company

Regards

[Inedible Bulk]

wtf

you cant just ask nicely in here and expect help, like the other pornographers have done to use our free help to booster their shady business?

[bingo]

no bulk, I can't - when you run a business you need to justify the costs, thanks a lot for the advice

and congrates for having found

[ken52787]

I think he means that there are plenty of people willing to help for free. I'd help out, but I've been insanely busy. If I get a day with not much happening and you still need help, I'll see what I can do.

[darkstar2002c]

The help he is willing to pay for needs to be extremely reliable and also needs to come in a timely manner. The problems he speaks of are for example, problems when encoding videos on two seperate machines. When I encode a video with a profile I have it works fine. However, when he uses the same profile settings on another computer (no matter what OS) his videos differ in bitrate and quality and therefore when our server plays my video and then switches to a video he has encoded their are problems with switching (ie: pink squares, temporary buffering, etc.) He is willing to pay for help if someone can provide a solution that will work flawlessly. We have struggled with these problems for quite some time and we need the help with these problems to get several projects started.

If anyone is serious about helping and KNOWS they can provide helpful solutions and wants to make a bit of money, please contact us. If you want to provide answers for free thats fine but we have used free solutions for some time now and none of them have worked. What we need here is quick help that works flawlessly.

[Inedible Bulk]

I don't think there are any businesses that deal professionally with NSV support and management.

[Jeeper One]

Hi everyone:

Bingo - PLAIN & SIMPLE....

NSV is NOT currently designed for commercial use (and now I doubt it will ever be). If you need commercial streaming media, Real or Windows Media is what you're looking for.

Cheers for now & Happy Holidays everyone

[B0b]

Originally posted by Inedible Bulk
you cant just ask nicely in here and expect help[?]

He wants to pay for help; let him.

As darkstar2002c has pointed out, free help is great, but it does not gurantee results and it has a "I don't owe you anything" attitude, which is to be expected, since it is free.

This is the reason many companies do not use open source software, they need support and guarantees, even if it costs money.

bingo, I would help you out, but I would have to charge you a lot since I would be working for the competition.

[B0b]

Originally posted by darkstar2002c
our server plays my video and then switches to a video he has encoded their are problems with switching (ie: pink squares ...)

*cough* weekend porn *cough*

[rockouthippie]

Don't use VP6.1, Then you won't have pink splotches, unless you're dating Paris Hilton.... well those would be more sorta .... well I digress .....

[darkstar2002c]

Originally posted by B0b
*cough* weekend porn *cough*

Indeed, the stream we are discussing here is Weekend Porn. We would however have the same problems on our other streams, any of the Darkstar TV channels IF "bingo" was uploading his videos. In regards to Weekend Porn we have this problem because we both share the 'load'... * cough * of providing content which gives us the ability to use seperate sources for our videos and also gives us more videos in the long run (since two people are downloading and encoding at once, obviously). We do not have this problem on other streams because "bingo" hasn't uploaded any videos to these streams YET... yet is the keyword here and the reason why is probably obvious - we don't want the other streams running how Weekend Porn is, we don't want any of them running that way. However, it is a little different when you run a 3-4 minute music video and have problems switching as opposed to an adult video that is 30 minutes - an hour or more in length. It isnt as much of a problem and isnt noticed as much when it is only in that state. However, we cannot charge people for something that has a problem - even if the problem is some blocks and perhaps a short re-buffer. To go "live" in the sense that we would begin making money off of this, we need to have a stream that is as close to flawless as possible.

As suggested by "rockouthippie" we will attempt to use VP3 instead of VP6.1 however I am worried about the loss of quality or the increased amount of bandwidth needed to achieve the same level of quality. What methods would you reccomend, or is the use of VP3 even what you are getting at here?

Thanks in advance and so-far for everyones thoughts and opinions, it is much appreciated.

[ken52787]

Well since I thoroughly support the Weekend Porn stream ;-D I'll see if I can't help. Darkstar, I got your aim, I'll talk to you later.

[bingo]

and one year of premium membership for ken52787

[ken52787]

Bingo, what is your aim? Darkstar is afk and I got some time to kill.

[bingo]

I do not exist ken - sorry

[toqer]

I thought about your problem. I've been having the same problem myself.

I read about Video Toaster Basically it's what i've been screaming for all along, except really expensive. A virtual DV tape drive.

It's treated just like a DV tape drive. So connect 2 pc's together, one to be the virtual tape drive and the other to be the encoding machine.

You could run both on the same PC, but I would bet there could be some performance issues.

Ok, now you just have your crew plug in a DV video camera, and either dump their tape to the virtual tape drive, or record live to it (save a bundle on tapes). You then set up a virtual DV tape playlist (feature of video toaster) and hit play.

Since it's treated just like another DV tape drive on the 1394 bus, go over to your encoder pc and start encoding. You could probably have it doing that full time.

I'd be pretty certain this can do what you're looking for. Video toaster iirc has been around since the amiga.

--toq

[rockouthippie]

Last time I checked on ON2 (VP6.1, not 6.2) they wanted $500 for a commercial license. That might be worthwhile, as the quality is better, even though my experiments have shown some real stability problems.

If you do this "live", instead of using a shouter (like sc_nsv), you make yourself some more problems as well. You'll need a constant uplink, something you may not be able to count on from garden variety DSL or cable modem.

Switching the source stream probably isn't a problem, if it's coordinated. Autodumpusers and autodumpsourcetime (sc_serv.ini) could probably be adjusted to make that work.

I haven't played with 6.2, but 6.1, despite it's bragging, didn't seem to me to be all that much better.

[toqer]

I see a big difference between the vp3 and vp6. There is a lot less compression artifacting.

Also I think the commercial license doesn't apply to broadcasters. It's geared more towards embedded platform builders, or folks with zillions of dollars. I've been using vp6 all along with no complaints from on2.

[rockouthippie]

I told ON2 EXACTLY what I was doing. They told me $500.

Yes there is less artifacting in VP6.?. I still haven't found this to be very stable.

One way to help artifacting is to use the "temporal smoother" with VirtualDub.

Also, increasing contrast helps a lot too. The artifact blotchiness sometimes is caused by noise. Increasing contrast helps remove the noise.

[Jeeper One]

Hi everyone:

Well Kevin - YOU are trying to MAKE $$$ off your website. Most of the rest us ARE NOT.

That's the difference & THAT is why ON2 said that you had to pay.

I've used VP6.1 ever since my station first went on the air. They've never asked ME for any $$$ either.

Cheers for now & Happy Holidays everyone

[bingo]

Originally posted by Jeeper One
I've used VP6.1 ever since my station first went on the air. They've never asked ME for any $$$ either.

Read the licence again
Happy Holidays

[Inedible Bulk]

Originally posted by bingo
Read the licence again
Happy Holidays

maybe you should read about it.

[slavas]

Originally posted by Inedible Bulk
maybe you should read about it.

nahh i was wrong
>2. license, sublicense, rent, lease, sell or transfer in any manner any portion of the >Software or the work product resulting from the use of the Software;
this line could be interpreted as forbidding transfer(=broacast) work product resulting from the use of the Software (=encoded material?)

although later there was "topic" there somebody asked on2 about non comercial use and they mailed that it's ok, su dunno for real, btw codec now is way cheaper

[sankt]

$99.00 (US) for a commercial use license.

[Inedible Bulk]

Originally posted by sankt
$99.00 (US) for a commercial use license.

yeah, but that doesn't make me happy.

http://yro.slashdot.org/article.pl?s...tid=123&tid=17

they paid full on license fees for everything, and STILL got sued by the company THEY PAID A LICENSE TO.

so, companies are suck. the reason i'm not thinking its great from on2 is they go "oh, you paid for vfw license, we see you're streaming, so we're guessing you're using the streaming codec, and thus HAND OVAH THE 1500$", and i'd be like "DRAT YOU SANKT"

drat you.

[rockouthippie]

No Jeeper. I am trying to AFFORD my website. Unlike you, I have two dedicated servers, 3 support machines.

Fart into Tripod!

[ken52787]

Originally posted by Inedible Bulk
so, companies are suck. the reason i'm not thinking its great from on2 is they go "oh, you paid for vfw license, we see you're streaming, so we're guessing you're using the streaming codec, and thus HAND OVAH THE 1500$", and i'd be like "DRAT YOU SANKT"

I haven't seen them go after anyone who use the codec without a license so I highly doubt they'll bug you for streaming. If they did, I'd be like "bitch, give me my $99 US back!"

[rockouthippie]

I'd like to get this straight with Jeeper. It would be nice to make money from my site. IT WOULD ALSO BE REALLY NICE IF I COULD BREAK EVEN.

It costs $500 a month or better to run WebRanger TV. I'm not re-encoding torrents. I buy the material. That doesn't even count "Dewey" and "Lewey".... Two 2.5 Ghz Bartons with A terabyte of hard drives, that spend their time encoding content.

I do this because I like it, and I'm always upside down.

[toqer]

Ya you're like me, down for OCP!

(original content providers)