Next song / next preset

Titule · 13th January 2005, 21:34

I was sure that this feature is implemented: Select the next preset (also randomly with possible randomly chosen transitions) whenever a new song starts.
I searched here but could not find how to enable it. (Just how to switch presets after n seconds).
I still believe it must be there somewhere since it is not in the wishlist.

Do you know where it is?

[Ishan] · 14th January 2005, 12:56

gee....there is such an option? i did'nt know either

hboy · 14th January 2005, 13:13

this smells...like potential flaming!

Warrior of the Light · 14th January 2005, 14:00

Look at the date
now don't tell me you searched the forums before you posted
in other words, no it is not possible

Titule · 15th January 2005, 11:05

Thanks for the link.
I did search, but the thread does not include the keywords I was looking for. Believe me, I'd rather have found a quick answer to my problem instead of opening a new thread and wait a few days for the answer.
It seems to be popular to answer every question that was asked before with eyes-rolling and "you should have searched", while I'm confinced that most people did so and would prefer to find the answer in the fist way or the FAQ.
And if I've found the link, I would still have asked if it has been implemented, since the request is three years old.
So I propose to put it on the wishlist, could one of the admins please move this thread there? (I don't want to next dude flaming me for cross-posting

)

Yathosho · 15th January 2005, 11:48

isn't that possible with hotlist and/or avs playlister? i never used any of them, but i think they can probably do what you are looking.

Titule · 17th January 2005, 20:04

Thanks for your info.
I checked avs playlister and lost expectation of my life. This program is unusable, horribly designed, and crashed two times in 15 minutes.
Hotlist is stucked in a beta version with no further active development.

PAK-9 · 18th January 2005, 13:04

You lost expectation of your life?

Titule · 18th January 2005, 18:52

I think so. I should have measured my blood pressure when evaluating this program to be sure, though.

[Ishan] · 20th January 2005, 07:44

i have'nt tried AVS playlister......i have used hotlist once....altho i dont require these programs

winamp is enough for me

goebish · 29th January 2005, 20:12

This would require a general purpose plugin.

Note: I first made Playlister for my personal use and it does what I want

Titule · 5th February 2005, 13:52

Why does it require a plugin?
AVS already knows when a new song starts, you can see this in the beat detection section: There you can choose how to detect the beats when a new song starts (adapt or learn new).
So the trigger ist there.
All what it needs is to connect it to the switch preset section.

goebish · 5th February 2005, 14:35

This cannot be done by an APE so it require a general purpose plugin. I'm currently making one, please stand by.

jheriko · 5th February 2005, 14:54

if its that easy... make your own.

TomyLobo · 7th February 2005, 02:56

Quote:

Originally posted by goebish
This cannot be done by an APE

wrong. it can even be done by pure avs code (with some tricks of course

)

TomyLobo · 7th February 2005, 03:00

here's an example

[Ishan] · 7th February 2005, 13:30

was that what was asked in the begining? i think that preset just displays the list of songs played.

I suppose the main topic of the thread was something else. He wanted a new preset for every new song.

APE's cannot do that i think.

Warrior of the Light · 7th February 2005, 13:56

they can't since the ape is a part of the preset. the first preset without the .ape wouldn't cycle to the next preset

Titule · 7th February 2005, 23:56

Quote:

Originally posted by [Ishan]

I suppose the main topic of the thread was something else. He wanted a new preset for every new song.

That's true. I'm male and I want a new preset for every new song.

TomyLobo · 8th February 2005, 08:10

Quote:

Originally posted by [Ishan]
was that what was asked in the begining? i think that preset just displays the list of songs played.

I suppose the main topic of the thread was something else. He wanted a new preset for every new song.

APE's cannot do that i think.

don't think so narrow

APEs can (and do!) run while not added to a preset, too.
here is an example http://www.deviantart.com/deviation/7800156

they can even compile code and do other nice things without being ever added to a preset

Titule · 12th March 2005, 21:06

Hm.
I don't understand everything said here, about APEs and whatsoever.
I understood that some people say it would be possible to program it. But I don't see that my problem was solved, or did I miss something?

^..^ · 13th March 2005, 01:03

no your problem isn`t solved yet. You should wait until one of those ape-freaks solved it

I don't get that idea, that an ape can work, while it's not in the current preset. But it might be possible...

goebish · 13th March 2005, 12:31

Quote:

Originally posted by Titule
I was sure that this feature is implemented: Select the next preset (also randomly with possible randomly chosen transitions) whenever a new song starts.
I searched here but could not find how to enable it. (Just how to switch presets after n seconds).
I still believe it must be there somewhere since it is not in the wishlist.

Do you know where it is?

here it is: Auto preset cycler
uncompress it in your winamp/plugins directory.
it's a general purpose plugin, simple to config:

random preset must be disabled in AVS config, transitions can be enabled, just configure your avs editor as there:
http://goebish.free.fr/vfx/avs%20preset%20switcher.jpg

Hope you won't lose expectation of your life just another time

I'd like some peoples to test it before publishing ...

^..^ · 13th March 2005, 13:08

At first it worked without problems, i tested many differnet settings (transitions etc) and everything was fine, but after a while it showed a bug: evertime a new song starts or i forward to the next one i get that windows *dong* sound.. Any idea why?

goebish · 13th March 2005, 13:16

I can't reproduce it

More details ?

edit: got it,I've to go for now but I'll try to fix it tonight

^..^ · 13th March 2005, 13:29

i have no idea why i get that! Suddenly it was there and i cannot remove it again! So i can't reproduce it either, im still having it...

I reinstalled your plugin but i still get this win-notifications sound when it loads a new preset...
At first i thought it's because of the prompt-box you get when you made changes to a preset. But since i reinstalled the plugin and loaded an untouched preset the problem shouldn't be there anymore...

Titule · 13th March 2005, 15:40

No, I did not lose anything again. It did not crash. Thanks.

But:
It seemed to work the first few minutes, but than there was a transition in the middle of a song. Than I rememebered you wanted the random preset change disabled (why?) so I did and from that time I never had a preset change again.
I tried de-activating and activating again, re-started winamp.
No change. I did not even get the windows ding that ^..^ gets.

^..^ · 13th March 2005, 17:32

it seems that only i am getting that ding, so it's not that bad. (Also i don't really need this plugin). However it seems that it doesn't have anything to do with the "save changes" box. Cause i still get that sound when this feature is disabled. Any idea why it could be? btw "random preset advance" is disabled.

goebish · 13th March 2005, 18:49

"Ding" problem should be fixed now.
Download it from the same location.
Thank for testing

Titule · 13th March 2005, 19:33

I downloaded and installed it.
Still it does nothing.
I'm watching the same preset over and over now.
Getting bored.
Losing expectations of life now...

Is there something I can do for debugging?

goebish · 13th March 2005, 19:39

Try classic & modern skin, attached & detached visualization window ...
Strange as it seemed to work first ...

^..^ · 13th March 2005, 20:03

hey, no annoying "ding" anymore! It works fine now! Great job!
What was the problem with that sound anyways?

Titule · 13th March 2005, 21:53

Nothing. Not even a "ding".
In classic/modern/detached/attached
with "Random" on/off,
with "randomly switch presets" off/on and 10/30/100/1000 seconds

At least my bloodpressure did not go up, so I assume the program does not do any harm.

goebish · 14th March 2005, 05:37

Problem with sound was because I sent a WM_SYSKEYDOWN message to the avs window instead of WM_KEYDOWN followed by WM_KEYUP.
Titule I really don't know what's wrong with you. Can some more people give it a try ?

edit:

I'm just looking at the include files of the new SDK and I see:

code:
#define IPC_SETVISWND 611 // param is hwnd, setting this allows you to receive ID_VIS_NEXT/PREVOUS/RANDOM/FS wm_commands

#define ID_VIS_NEXT                     40382

#define ID_VIS_PREV                     40383

#define ID_VIS_RANDOM                   40384

#define ID_VIS_FS                       40389

#define ID_VIS_CFG                      40390

#define ID_VIS_MENU                     40391



#define IPC_GETVISWND 612 // returns the vis cmd handler hwnd

#define IPC_ISVISRUNNING 613

#define IPC_CB_VISRANDOM 628 // param is status of random

So I think I can code it a proper way than sending keydown/keyup messages to the avs window after retrieving his handle with FindWindow/FindWindowEx
Time to go to work now, I'll update it this evening.

^..^ · 14th March 2005, 11:49

sorry can't really follow. Actually i have no idea about real coding things. However the plugin works fine for me, although i found another bug: it seems as if you cannot deactivate it permanently. Everytime i deactivate it and restart winamp it is activated again. Is it supposed to be this way or is it really a bug?

goebish · 14th March 2005, 16:38

I just came back home... let's have a look

Updated
This one should even work for Titule (?)
Config loading/saving works fine here.

Titule · 14th March 2005, 19:28

Seems you never give up? Good, I appreciate that, but, sorry to say that:
No.
The configuration window and the version number has changed. (nice work, though

)
But nothing else.
I think now that it never worked and the first transitions I observed were the random transitions every 10 secs.
I got so unsure that I even pressed the "next" button to see if there are ANY preset changes (it worked).

How can I help? Maybe you implement to write debug-output to a file that I can send you?

^..^ · 14th March 2005, 19:42

well, here it works fine now, without re-enabling on winamp restart and without ding. Dunno, perhaps it's a matter of different winamp versions, that it doesn't work for you titule?

Titule · 14th March 2005, 19:56

It's winamp 5.08e
Is there any newer?

^..^ · 14th March 2005, 20:07

or older: im using 5.07, perhaps that's the problem?

13th January 2005, 21:34	#1
Titule Junior Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 37	Next song / next preset I was sure that this feature is implemented: Select the next preset (also randomly with possible randomly chosen transitions) whenever a new song starts. I searched here but could not find how to enable it. (Just how to switch presets after n seconds). I still believe it must be there somewhere since it is not in the wishlist. Do you know where it is?

14th January 2005, 12:56	#2
[Ishan] Major Dude Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: India Posts: 1,156	gee....there is such an option? i did'nt know either Amateur AVS'er. All over again. Last AVS Pack : Resurgence

14th January 2005, 14:00	#4
Warrior of the Light Forum King Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: The Netherlands Posts: 4,121	Look at the date now don't tell me you searched the forums before you posted in other words, no it is not possible Jesus loves you [yes, you] so much, he even died for you so that you will not need to die, but live forever

15th January 2005, 11:48	#6
Yathosho Forum King Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: AT-DE Posts: 3,366	isn't that possible with hotlist and/or avs playlister? i never used any of them, but i think they can probably do what you are looking. NSIS IDE for Atom \| NSIS for Visual Studio Code \| NSIS for Sublime Text \| NSIS.docset

18th January 2005, 13:04	#8
PAK-9 Major Dude Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: The United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland Posts: 1,374	You lost expectation of your life? http://PAK-9.deviantart.com ...innit

14th January 2005, 13:13	#3
hboy Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Hungary Posts: 217	this smells...like potential flaming!

15th January 2005, 11:05	#5
Titule Junior Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 37	Thanks for the link. I did search, but the thread does not include the keywords I was looking for. Believe me, I'd rather have found a quick answer to my problem instead of opening a new thread and wait a few days for the answer. It seems to be popular to answer every question that was asked before with eyes-rolling and "you should have searched", while I'm confinced that most people did so and would prefer to find the answer in the fist way or the FAQ. And if I've found the link, I would still have asked if it has been implemented, since the request is three years old. So I propose to put it on the wishlist, could one of the admins please move this thread there? (I don't want to next dude flaming me for cross-posting )

17th January 2005, 20:04	#7
Titule Junior Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 37	Thanks for your info. I checked avs playlister and lost expectation of my life. This program is unusable, horribly designed, and crashed two times in 15 minutes. Hotlist is stucked in a beta version with no further active development.

18th January 2005, 18:52	#9
Titule Junior Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 37	I think so. I should have measured my blood pressure when evaluating this program to be sure, though.

20th January 2005, 07:44	#10
[Ishan] Major Dude Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: India Posts: 1,156	i have'nt tried AVS playlister......i have used hotlist once....altho i dont require these programs winamp is enough for me Amateur AVS'er. All over again. Last AVS Pack : Resurgence

29th January 2005, 20:12	#11
goebish Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: an UFO near planet earth Posts: 164	Next song / next preset This would require a general purpose plugin. Note: I first made Playlister for my personal use and it does what I want Get more APEs

5th February 2005, 13:52	#12
Titule Junior Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 37	Why does it require a plugin? AVS already knows when a new song starts, you can see this in the beat detection section: There you can choose how to detect the beats when a new song starts (adapt or learn new). So the trigger ist there. All what it needs is to connect it to the switch preset section.

5th February 2005, 14:35	#13
goebish Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: an UFO near planet earth Posts: 164	This cannot be done by an APE so it require a general purpose plugin. I'm currently making one, please stand by. Get more APEs

5th February 2005, 14:54	#14
jheriko Forum King Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: a twist in the fabric of space Posts: 2,150	if its that easy... make your own. -- Jheriko 'Everything around us can be represented and understood through numbers'

7th February 2005, 13:30	#17
[Ishan] Major Dude Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: India Posts: 1,156	was that what was asked in the begining? i think that preset just displays the list of songs played. I suppose the main topic of the thread was something else. He wanted a new preset for every new song. APE's cannot do that i think. Amateur AVS'er. All over again. Last AVS Pack : Resurgence

7th February 2005, 13:56	#18
Warrior of the Light Forum King Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: The Netherlands Posts: 4,121	they can't since the ape is a part of the preset. the first preset without the .ape wouldn't cycle to the next preset Jesus loves you [yes, you] so much, he even died for you so that you will not need to die, but live forever

12th March 2005, 21:06	#21
Titule Junior Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 37	Hm. I don't understand everything said here, about APEs and whatsoever. I understood that some people say it would be possible to program it. But I don't see that my problem was solved, or did I miss something?

13th March 2005, 01:03	#22
^..^ Major Dude Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: There Posts: 1,002	no your problem isn`t solved yet. You should wait until one of those ape-freaks solved it I don't get that idea, that an ape can work, while it's not in the current preset. But it might be possible...

13th March 2005, 13:08	#24
^..^ Major Dude Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: There Posts: 1,002	At first it worked without problems, i tested many differnet settings (transitions etc) and everything was fine, but after a while it showed a bug: evertime a new song starts or i forward to the next one i get that windows dong sound.. Any idea why?

13th March 2005, 13:16	#25
goebish Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: an UFO near planet earth Posts: 164	I can't reproduce it More details ? edit: got it,I've to go for now but I'll try to fix it tonight Get more APEs

13th March 2005, 13:29	#26
^..^ Major Dude Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: There Posts: 1,002	i have no idea why i get that! Suddenly it was there and i cannot remove it again! So i can't reproduce it either, im still having it... I reinstalled your plugin but i still get this win-notifications sound when it loads a new preset... At first i thought it's because of the prompt-box you get when you made changes to a preset. But since i reinstalled the plugin and loaded an untouched preset the problem shouldn't be there anymore...

13th March 2005, 15:40	#27
Titule Junior Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 37	No, I did not lose anything again. It did not crash. Thanks. But: It seemed to work the first few minutes, but than there was a transition in the middle of a song. Than I rememebered you wanted the random preset change disabled (why?) so I did and from that time I never had a preset change again. I tried de-activating and activating again, re-started winamp. No change. I did not even get the windows ding that ^..^ gets.

13th March 2005, 17:32	#28
^..^ Major Dude Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: There Posts: 1,002	it seems that only i am getting that ding, so it's not that bad. (Also i don't really need this plugin). However it seems that it doesn't have anything to do with the "save changes" box. Cause i still get that sound when this feature is disabled. Any idea why it could be? btw "random preset advance" is disabled.

13th March 2005, 18:49	#29
goebish Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: an UFO near planet earth Posts: 164	"Ding" problem should be fixed now. Download it from the same location. Thank for testing Get more APEs

13th March 2005, 19:33	#30
Titule Junior Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 37	I downloaded and installed it. Still it does nothing. I'm watching the same preset over and over now. Getting bored. Losing expectations of life now... Is there something I can do for debugging?

13th March 2005, 19:39	#31
goebish Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: an UFO near planet earth Posts: 164	Try classic & modern skin, attached & detached visualization window ... Strange as it seemed to work first ... Get more APEs

13th March 2005, 20:03	#32
^..^ Major Dude Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: There Posts: 1,002	hey, no annoying "ding" anymore! It works fine now! Great job! What was the problem with that sound anyways?

13th March 2005, 21:53	#33
Titule Junior Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 37	Nothing. Not even a "ding". In classic/modern/detached/attached with "Random" on/off, with "randomly switch presets" off/on and 10/30/100/1000 seconds At least my bloodpressure did not go up, so I assume the program does not do any harm.

14th March 2005, 05:37	#34
goebish Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: an UFO near planet earth Posts: 164	Problem with sound was because I sent a WM_SYSKEYDOWN message to the avs window instead of WM_KEYDOWN followed by WM_KEYUP. Titule I really don't know what's wrong with you. Can some more people give it a try ? edit: I'm just looking at the include files of the new SDK and I see: code: #define IPC_SETVISWND 611 // param is hwnd, setting this allows you to receive ID_VIS_NEXT/PREVOUS/RANDOM/FS wm_commands #define ID_VIS_NEXT 40382 #define ID_VIS_PREV 40383 #define ID_VIS_RANDOM 40384 #define ID_VIS_FS 40389 #define ID_VIS_CFG 40390 #define ID_VIS_MENU 40391 #define IPC_GETVISWND 612 // returns the vis cmd handler hwnd #define IPC_ISVISRUNNING 613 #define IPC_CB_VISRANDOM 628 // param is status of random So I think I can code it a proper way than sending keydown/keyup messages to the avs window after retrieving his handle with FindWindow/FindWindowEx Time to go to work now, I'll update it this evening. Get more APEs Last edited by goebish; 14th March 2005 at 06:36.

14th March 2005, 11:49	#35
^..^ Major Dude Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: There Posts: 1,002	sorry can't really follow. Actually i have no idea about real coding things. However the plugin works fine for me, although i found another bug: it seems as if you cannot deactivate it permanently. Everytime i deactivate it and restart winamp it is activated again. Is it supposed to be this way or is it really a bug?

14th March 2005, 16:38	#36
goebish Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: an UFO near planet earth Posts: 164	I just came back home... let's have a look Updated This one should even work for Titule (?) Config loading/saving works fine here. Get more APEs Last edited by goebish; 14th March 2005 at 19:00.

14th March 2005, 19:28	#37
Titule Junior Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 37	Seems you never give up? Good, I appreciate that, but, sorry to say that: No. The configuration window and the version number has changed. (nice work, though ) But nothing else. I think now that it never worked and the first transitions I observed were the random transitions every 10 secs. I got so unsure that I even pressed the "next" button to see if there are ANY preset changes (it worked). How can I help? Maybe you implement to write debug-output to a file that I can send you?

14th March 2005, 19:42	#38
^..^ Major Dude Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: There Posts: 1,002	well, here it works fine now, without re-enabling on winamp restart and without ding. Dunno, perhaps it's a matter of different winamp versions, that it doesn't work for you titule?

14th March 2005, 19:56	#39
Titule Junior Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 37	It's winamp 5.08e Is there any newer?

14th March 2005, 20:07	#40
^..^ Major Dude Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: There Posts: 1,002	or older: im using 5.07, perhaps that's the problem?