AVS + Flash = Totally not gonna work

OnionRingOfDoom · 16th November 2005, 02:48

**emerges from hole**

After a night of tinkering with flash, I've sucessfully created a flash version of the superscope, only without the whole beat thing. It's kinda small, so just zoom in a bunch to see it. After looking more into the possibility of having a more powerful ssc-type thing in flash, I realized that, well, flash really sucks at drawing lines from mathematical formulas.

Example: http://orod.lanpirates.net/ssc.swf
Source: http://orod.lanpirates.net/ssc.fla

**goes back into hole for another year or two**

UIUC85 · 16th November 2005, 03:56

Flash can do some fun stuff visual stuff if you put the time into it. I made a few things here and there to play around with.

3D Rhino:
https://netfiles.uiuc.edu/ssartell/R...wf?uniq=x47sgx
arrow keys rotate and +/- zoom

Inverse Kinetics:
https://netfiles.uiuc.edu/ssartell/k...f?uniq=-oriuyt
use your mouse and drag the green dots.

There's not really any pixel oriented stuff so it's a totally different platform, but it can be fun.

OnionRingOfDoom · 16th November 2005, 17:14

That's a pretty spiffy rhino right there. Unfortunatly, when you rotate it, the fps goes down the drain.

JFASI · 16th November 2005, 21:45

True, true. How, more or less, does one make such a sexy rhino?

eheiney · 16th November 2005, 22:46

You can also use home, end, page up, and page down for the rhino to make it solid, transparent, roll right, and roll left, respectively.

But, OROD, how does yours work?

UIUC85 · 16th November 2005, 23:05

Insert and delete turn on and off the edge outline too. At one point I was working on making it render with cell shading but it didn't quite work out, but the outline stayed. I can adjust the thickness of the outline too but I think I like it best at just 1.

Yeah the fps go to hell when it your rotate, but it is doing nearly 500 polygons... When I'm off work maybe I'll put up a version with a different shape with less polygons.

I wrote the engine to render said rhino over the summer when I started playing with flash. It's the same deal as doing a 3D ssc in winamp only you do 3 points for each polygon and flash has built in functions to draw shapes in 2D. There's a little more organization required in storing vertices efficiently so you don't store multiples of the same thing. I can give you more details than that but I wasn't sure exactly what you're looking for me to say about how it's done.

I was thinking about making a 3D flash game but a) I don't what kind of game I should do b) the polygon count would be pretty dang low c) the fps could be unstable. It's still a possibility though.

JFASI · 17th November 2005, 00:30

I'm better with AVS...

UIUC85 · 17th November 2005, 01:49

It would be pretty cool to have a shape drawing APE though, with options like the ones in flash. So then we could do vector graphics

JFASI · 17th November 2005, 02:50

Well, I have one on my comp, but its sooooo buggy...

Its worse than 3D Tentacles when you open it...

gordmoo · 19th November 2005, 19:13

Quote:

Originally posted by UIUC85
I was thinking about making a 3D flash game but a) I don't what kind of game I should do b) the polygon count would be pretty dang low c) the fps could be unstable. It's still a possibility though.

i think i allready saw a few 3d flash games that were compleatly 3d, used your graphics card n everything. i don't know if they used a 3rd party plugin or what. but i do remeber them.,, one was like a 3d version of sfcave but 20 times faster and a lot of fun!.. but then they started charging money n i was forced to start actually doing work at college instead of lazing around playing flash games on the net...

JFASI · 19th November 2005, 19:21

Charging can do that...

16th November 2005, 02:48	#1
OnionRingOfDoom Member Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Brookly, NYC Posts: 72	AVS + Flash = Totally not gonna work emerges from hole After a night of tinkering with flash, I've sucessfully created a flash version of the superscope, only without the whole beat thing. It's kinda small, so just zoom in a bunch to see it. After looking more into the possibility of having a more powerful ssc-type thing in flash, I realized that, well, flash really sucks at drawing lines from mathematical formulas. Example: http://orod.lanpirates.net/ssc.swf Source: http://orod.lanpirates.net/ssc.fla goes back into hole for another year or two http://jeremyabel.com

16th November 2005, 17:14	#3
OnionRingOfDoom Member Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Brookly, NYC Posts: 72	That's a pretty spiffy rhino right there. Unfortunatly, when you rotate it, the fps goes down the drain. http://jeremyabel.com

16th November 2005, 22:46	#5
eheiney und keine Eier! Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: MI, USA Posts: 1,374	You can also use home, end, page up, and page down for the rhino to make it solid, transparent, roll right, and roll left, respectively. But, OROD, how does yours work? Spiral out, my friend. You will find your way back to yourself, we all will. I'll be waiting, and shall see you on the other side...

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16th November 2005, 03:56	#2
UIUC85 Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2003 Posts: 272	Flash can do some fun stuff visual stuff if you put the time into it. I made a few things here and there to play around with. 3D Rhino: https://netfiles.uiuc.edu/ssartell/R...wf?uniq=x47sgx arrow keys rotate and +/- zoom Inverse Kinetics: https://netfiles.uiuc.edu/ssartell/k...f?uniq=-oriuyt use your mouse and drag the green dots. There's not really any pixel oriented stuff so it's a totally different platform, but it can be fun.

16th November 2005, 21:45	#4
JFASI Major Dude Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: I was hoping you could tell me Posts: 1,350	True, true. How, more or less, does one make such a sexy rhino?

16th November 2005, 23:05	#6
UIUC85 Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2003 Posts: 272	Insert and delete turn on and off the edge outline too. At one point I was working on making it render with cell shading but it didn't quite work out, but the outline stayed. I can adjust the thickness of the outline too but I think I like it best at just 1. Yeah the fps go to hell when it your rotate, but it is doing nearly 500 polygons... When I'm off work maybe I'll put up a version with a different shape with less polygons. I wrote the engine to render said rhino over the summer when I started playing with flash. It's the same deal as doing a 3D ssc in winamp only you do 3 points for each polygon and flash has built in functions to draw shapes in 2D. There's a little more organization required in storing vertices efficiently so you don't store multiples of the same thing. I can give you more details than that but I wasn't sure exactly what you're looking for me to say about how it's done. I was thinking about making a 3D flash game but a) I don't what kind of game I should do b) the polygon count would be pretty dang low c) the fps could be unstable. It's still a possibility though.

17th November 2005, 00:30	#7
JFASI Major Dude Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: I was hoping you could tell me Posts: 1,350	I'm better with AVS...

17th November 2005, 01:49	#8
UIUC85 Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2003 Posts: 272	It would be pretty cool to have a shape drawing APE though, with options like the ones in flash. So then we could do vector graphics

17th November 2005, 02:50	#9
JFASI Major Dude Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: I was hoping you could tell me Posts: 1,350	Well, I have one on my comp, but its sooooo buggy... Its worse than 3D Tentacles when you open it...

19th November 2005, 19:21	#11
JFASI Major Dude Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: I was hoping you could tell me Posts: 1,350	Charging can do that...