Rock & Roll's Hall of Fame - The Official Mosaic?

[Cylob]

Nominations for:

Rock & Roll's Hall of Fame - The Official Mosaic

Anyone?

[eheiney]

Nine Inch Nails - Pretty Hate Machine

Isn't it obvious?

[Cylob]

Good, good, keep the ball rolling!

[zootm]

Rush - 2112.

You know you want to. Go on.

[Cylob]

I reckon I can get 3 or 4 Rush albums on the page.

Probably also...

Permanent Waves
Moving Pictures
Power Windows

[ScorLibran]

An often overlooked Rush album that I consider worthy of nomination is Roll The Bones.

Other's I'd nominate:
Pink Floyd ~ The Piper At The Gates Of Dawn
Pink Floyd ~ Animals
Liz Phair ~ Exile In Guyville
Alice In Chains ~ Facelift
Rage Against The Machine ~ Rage Against The Machine

[eheiney]

How big are you planning for this to be? And when it's finished will there be, or is there currently, a list of all albums in the mosaic?

[Cylob]

It'll finally have (I suppose) 500 albums (maybe more). I have a list of contents, I just need to polish it.

If nothing else, it'll make for an original frontage to any website.

Originally posted by ScorLibran
An often overlooked Rush album that I consider worthy of nomination is Roll The Bones.

I remember the Roll The Bones tour (Wembley Arena), I was seated directly behind a pillar. The gig was splendiverous though, they played Xanadu in all its glory. Shame about the opening band (some racket known as Primus).

[gaekwad2]

The whole thing looks a bit random

I mean, U2? INXS???

[Cylob]

Inxs did a couple of top-drawer albums.

U2 are there though because "an alltime greats list ain't an alltime greats list without U2".

Ours is not to reason why....

[DJ Egg]

Hawkwind - Levitation
Black Sabbath - Vol. 4 // Master of Reality
Led Zeppelin - IV // Physical Graffiti
Rush - Hemispheres
Tangerine Dream - Cyclone
Can - Ege Bamyasi // Future Days // Flow Motion
Steve Hillage - Open
Ozric Tentacles - Strangeitude
King Crimson - Discipline
Joy Division - Unknown Pleasure
Killing Joke - Killing Joke (1st album)
Siouxsie - Join Hands
Pixies - Bossanova // Doolittle
Radiohead - The Bends // OK Computer
John Martyn - Solid Air // One World
Bowie - Man Who Sold the World (well, it's more RnR than Low)
Neil Young - Harvest // After The Goldrush // Rust Never Sleeps
Frank Zappa - Zoot Allures // Joe's Garage: Acts 1-3
Yes - Close to the Edge
ELP - Brain Salad Surgery
Joe Satriani - Flying in a Blue Dream
Alice Cooper - Killer
Roy Harper & Jimmy Page - Whatever Happened to Jugula +
Jimi Hendrix - Electric Ladyland // Are You Experienced
The Doors - Strange Days
Pink Floyd - Animals
Jefferson Airplane - Surrealistic Pillow // Collector Series (66-74)
Talking Heads - Fear of Music // Remain in Light
Tool - Aenima // Lateralus

[Cylob]

Thanks, just another few hundred and I'm 'there'.

[gaekwad2]

Originally posted by Cylob
Inxs did a couple of top-drawer albums.

U2 are there though because "an alltime greats list ain't an alltime greats list without U2".

Ours is not to reason why....

Well I'm glad all my drawers are 100% Inxs-free.

Maybe they did some good records, I don't know all of them, but the completely unsatisfying pseudo-rock on records like Kick was part of what turned me away from the mainstream in the first place.

[Cylob]

I was fortunate enough to hear The Swing before Kick, which made all the difference.

I reckon they were tarnished at the time by U2's fame, all vaguely similar bands being singled out for stoning (including Simple Minds).

If you get a chance to listen to "The Swing", you'll find 9/10 very decent tracks. The only track that sucks is the title song (why does that always happen)???

[Youth_Brigade]

the Ramones- Ramones
the Ramones- Leave Home
the Ramones- Rocket To Russia

[Cylob]

You'll be pleased to hear that Ramones (1976) is the first tile.

[gaekwad2]

Originally posted by Cylob
I reckon they were tarnished at the time by U2's fame, all vaguely similar bands being singled out for stoning (including Simple Minds).

I thought Simple Minds got shunned for continuing to make records despite obviously having run out of ideas after New Gold Dream.

OK then (still not convinced the following deserve to be on a list with Inxs):
Aphex Twin - ...I Care Because You Do
Autechre - tri repetae
Barrington Levy - Here I Come
Bastro - Bastro Diablo Guapo
Beach Boys - Surf's Up
Big Black - Songs About Fucking
Blue Öyster Cult - Secret Treaties
Bonnie "Prince" Billy - I See A Darkness
Buzzcocks - Another Music In A Different Kitchen
Cat Power - What Would The Community Think
Chico Buarque - Construção
The Chills - Submarine Bells
Cocteau Twins - Treasure and Heaven Or Las Vegas
Coil - Love's Secret Domain ()
Curtis Mayfield - Curtis
Dead Kennedys - Plastic Surgery Disasters
Eno - Taking Tiger Mountain (By Strategy)
The Fall - Dragnet and The Infotainment Scan
fIREHOSE - Ragin', Full-On
The Go-Betweens - Before Hollywood and Tallulah
Helmet - Meantime
Iggy Pop - The Idiot
King Crimson - Lizard and Starless And Bible Black
Laibach - Opus Dei
LFO - Frequencies
Liaisons Dangereuses (selftitled)
Jeff Mills - Purpose Maker Compilation
Naked City - Torture Garden
Nicolette - Now Is Early
Nomeansno - Wrong
Orbital (the brown album)
Pet Shop Boys - Bilingual
Prefab Sprout - Steve McQueen
Prong - Beg To Differ
The Residents - Not Available
Shellac - Terraform
Siouxsie & The Banshees - Juju (Join Hands is unbeatable of course)
Slayer - Reign In Blood
Suicide (selftitled)
Van Der Graaf Generator - Pawn Hearts
Van Dyke Parks - Song Cycle
Voivod - Nothingface
Robert Wyatt - Rock Bottom

(I'm sure I forgot lots of essential stuff)
edit: removed a few that were there already (hope I caught all)

[Cylob]

Originally posted by gaekwad2
I thought Simple Minds got shunned for continuing to make records despite obviously having run out of ideas after New Gold Dream.

Quite right!! If lynching was legal, "Belfast Child" would've been just cause.

Thanks for the list, between you and Egg I have enough to fill another 2-3 rows. By the end of (next) month I'll have the 'definitive' music mosaic. Perhaps if I shunt the 2 x Inxs tiles to obscure corners they'll be less obvious...

Right, Michael Jackson's next up.

[zootm]

Originally posted by ScorLibran
An often overlooked Rush album that I consider worthy of nomination is Roll The Bones.

That's a great album, but I prefer Counterparts of their work of that "phase".

On topic:
Therapy? - Semi-Detached
Faith No More - King for a Day, Fool for a Lifetime

I'm gonna get in trouble for my definition of "rock and roll", I can feel it

[DJ Egg]

Aphex Twin, Autechre, LFO, Jeff Mills, and Orbital are classed as rock+roll?
If it's that such loose a term, then it virtually opens it up to almost anything.

But yeah, I definitely agree with some of the other ones in gaekwad's list.
I was gonna include some of those myself, eg. Buzzcocks, VDGG, Cocteau Twins (though I'd probably choose "Head Over Heels" instead) but wasn't sure if they were truly worthy of "Hall of Fame" status.

Of course, I could add a few hundred more... ;-)

[gaekwad2]

Originally posted by DJ Egg
Aphex Twin, Autechre, LFO, Jeff Mills, and Orbital are classed as rock+roll?
If it's that such loose a term, then it virtually opens it up to almost anything.

There was already some Aphex Twin in the mosaic (The Prodigy, Future Sound Of London as well).

[Cylob]

Originally posted by zootm
I'm gonna get in trouble for my definition of "rock and roll", I can feel it

I'd consider anything to be rock (except Jimmy Somerville's solo work).

I'm not sure about Rush's latter albums, my fave's Test For Echo. But on a canvas of 20 x 38 tiles (760 total), I intend to get at least 3 on there. No-one would complain if it contained 10 Beatles covers.

I'd put the Cocteau's on for their services to dreampop, and while I'm at it, Spacemen 3, Slowdive, Lush (even)?

[Spazz333]

Black Sabbath - Paranoid
Jackyl - Jackyl (so sue me!)

[Cylob]

I need a red herring, but Jackyl could be pushing the boat out.

Isn't there a classic alternative metal album (besides RATM)?

[gaekwad2]

Kyuss - Welcome To Sky Valley

And I forgot Fugazi - 13 Songs

[Cylob]

That's the problem - once you take the lid off the box, it's off.

[gaekwad2]

Well, if you need 760...

How about
Nancy & Lee
and some Serge Gainsbourg (not sure what album though, Initials B.B. would probably be the safest choice)

[Cylob]

When the 760 are there, it'll be tweaked, then framed.

BTW, Inxs are proudly displayed in my sig..

[DJ Egg]

Still sticking with my interpretation of RnR (ie. guitar-based bands, or crossover, but not solely electronic - note: Tange-D's 'Cyclone' was an exception, because it had guitars, heh).

Part 2

System of a Down - Hypnotize/Mezmerize // Toxicity
Wishbone Ash - Argus
Dead Kennedys - Fresh Fruit for Rotting Vegetables
A Perfect Circle - Mer de Noms
Muse - Absolution
Mogwai - Happy Songs for Happy People // Come On Die Young
Beck - Mellow Gold
Dead Can Dance - Into the Labyrinth // Spiritchaser // Toward the Within
Propaganda - A Secret Wish
Kong - Phlegm
Hawkwind - Hall of the Mountain Grill // Warrior on the Edge of Time // Astounding Sounds Amazing Music // Quark Strangeness and Charm
Porcupine Tree - The Sky Moves Sideways
Stranglers - Black and White
Coil - Horse Rotorvator
Stereolab - Transient Random Noise Bursts...
Magazine - Real Life // Secondhand Daylight
Bauhaus - In The Flat Field
Stiff Little Fingers - Inflammable Material // Nobody's Heroes
Wire - Pink Flag
PWEI - This is the Day... This is the Hour
The Ruts - The Crack
999 - Separates
Killing Joke - What's This For
Gang of Four - Entertainment
Cure - 17 Seconds // Pornography
Devo - Jocko Homo
Psychic TV - Allegory and Self
Curve - Doppelganger
NiN - The Fragile
Loop - A Gilded Eternity
Spacemen 3 - Playing with Fire
Smashing Pumpkins - Gish
Alan Parsons Project - Eye in the Sky // Instrumental Works
Rainbow - Rainbow Rising (1st and only good album, imho)
All About Eve - Scarlett and Other Stories
Edie Brickell - Shooting Rubberbands at the Stars
30 Seconds to Mars - 30 Seconds to Mars
Smile Empty Soul - Smile Empty Soul
Filter - Short Bus

[Cylob]

Originally posted by DJ Egg
PWEI - This is the Day... This is the Hour

Yay!

While you've been doing all the proper R&R research, I've been adding tiles like Madonna. But then, everything on the page rocks in one form or another.

Yes, even Autechre.

Wait there, I thought I saw Curve in the list. I must be pissed.

[ScorLibran]

BTW...great idea Cylob. I can't wait to see the final result.

[Cylob]

It'll be a frontage to my web domain (more useful than a gimmicky flash presentation). The next time someone starts a "best albums of all time" thread I'll just send the link (and get back to my porn).

It's fortunate to have people like egg around, it'd be a crime to keep his expertise to himself.

[gaekwad2]

Motörhead - Ace Of Spades

You can't legally have a Rock'n'Roll mosaic without Motörhead.

[Cylob]

The last thing I want's a visitation from Lemmy, so I'd better make it so.

[k_rock923]

The Doors - L.A. Woman
Deep Purple - Machine Head
Van Halen - Van Halen I

[gaekwad2]

Young Marble Giants - Colossal Youth

(after listening to the latest Broadcast album which sounds like Colossal Youth played through a fuzzbox)

[Cylob]

I don't know what to make of Tender Buttons...

I preferred them when they sounded like Andy Warhol's music box. Still, it adds to the 'experience' (diversity and all that).

[gaekwad2]

Not sure either, but I always found their songwriting somehow lacking (in a way that's hard to pinpoint, it just leaves me with the feeling that it could be better).

btw(looking at mosaic), no Cibo Matto?

and while at it:
Pizzicato Five - This Year's Girl
(I think it's safe to like them again.)

[Cylob]

Originally posted by gaekwad2
Not sure either, but I always found their songwriting somehow lacking (in a way that's hard to pinpoint, it just leaves me with the feeling that it could be better).

Work and Non-Work for me is 10/10 stuff. The fact it was recorded at the bottom of a scottish loch is neither here nor there. The Noise Made By People isn't far off, the percussion on "You Can Fall" is nothing short of breathtaking.

Trish hasn't got the best voice on the planet, so the music's got to be A+ (on the last album, it's more like B-)? They can become scary at a stroke...

I have a Cibo Matto album on the cards, not sure about Pizzicato Five though (they're out of favour at the minute). How is it, at the start of the track you think "utter crap", and by the end it's..... "hmmm, not bad at all". I'm sure something illegal's going on.

[gaekwad2]

Originally posted by Cylob
Trish hasn't got the best voice on the planet,

Hmm, actually I like her voice (better than, say, Toni Halliday).

Originally posted by Cylob
I have a Cibo Matto album on the cards, not sure about Pizzicato Five though (they're out of favour at the minute).

I thought the backlash was over.
If interest is at a low you have to "buy ahead of the curve" before everybody else remembers how important and influential they were.

Originally posted by Cylob
How is it, at the start of the track you think "utter crap", and by the end it's..... "hmmm, not bad at all". I'm sure something illegal's going on.

Talking about NO again?