Emanations - First Pack

DarracottDude · 14th May 2006, 21:49

I decided to go ahead and release my first pack of avs presets (16). Any feedback from you guys will help me improve the next pack. Perhaps there are some winners in here, perhaps not. A few of them i really like, probably because i made them. :-)

Enjoy!!

//edit: Oh yeah ... also feel free to remix any of these. :-)

usgroup1_winamp · 17th May 2006, 15:47

Nice pack,
I remixed your Wavy Flower

DarracottDude · 17th May 2006, 16:36

Thanks, very cool!!

JaVS_v2.5 · 17th May 2006, 17:19

Ermmm.. I just wanna say that there are good and bad presets in this pack. Should added more interesting presets.. like techy-things. People like me, love chrome-colour preset!

btw, nice pack though..

keep up the g00d w0rx

DarracottDude · 17th May 2006, 19:40

Thanks for the good words. At least they are not all bad. :-)

I just discovered avs a few weeks ago, so it will take me some time to learn the "techy" stuff.

//edit: Oh, and i'll try to include a "chrome" preset in my next pack, just for you. :-)

DarracottDude · 21st May 2006, 14:58

Sorry if i'm being too impatient, but after posting my beginner pack a week ago, i've been rather disappointed at the response. I was expecting at least a clue as to which of these presets were good, bad, or just ok.

fastingaciu · 21st May 2006, 15:03

Try and post it on the plugin section. You will get some great feedback over there.

DarracottDude · 21st May 2006, 16:04

Quote:

Originally posted by fastingaciu
Try and post it on the plugin section. You will get some great feedback over there.

While searching THIS forum, i've seen beginner packs reviewed and critiqed, each and every preset was commented on. I was hoping for something like that, or at least some idea about my first attempt at avs, more than just "nice pack" for example. I just want a clue to help me improve.

Thanks.

DummyDDD · 26th May 2006, 11:00

Well it's nice that you've (at least partially) learned how to use the superscope and there are some of the presets that a really nice. My personal favs in this one is orchid, pretty, rotoswirl and wavy flower. The rest of the presets seem to empty to me, because there is no effect that is in focus, and nothing that fills the background. My favorite preset in the pack is orchid, because it fills up the screen nicely, and has a nice movement, although it gets somewhat repetitive.

Although the oscilliscope theme that many of the presets has is good for music visualization, I think that it's used for too many presets here, and that you should try to find a way to present it in a way that will seem more interresting. Also you should probably check your presets for unneeded parts, for instance there were sevral effectlists and probably some water that were unneeded (and dragged down the framerate slightly).

DarracottDude · 26th May 2006, 12:55

Many thanks for your comments and suggestions. I'm sure they will help me to do better on my next pack. I'm trying different things now, but music response will always be a must.

I've also started learning Texer II, i like this APE, so my next pack will have some Texer II presets.

ASD5A · 26th May 2006, 13:40

actually these presets look pretty typical for a beginner pack. some of the superscope work is quite decent but try to
find other bg filling methods than water.

usgroup1_winamp · 7th June 2006, 20:10

I was playing with that remix of wavy flower and I got this shiny effect, wow it looks so nice to me.

Grandchild · 8th June 2006, 23:39

Overall some promising ideas, but the execution is not that good [yet]. I know this is the standard 1st pack statement... Anyway the main point in your pack is [like so often in the beginning] the coloring and background. Practise, it's not that you lack artistic sense, practise, practise! Oh, and [if you haven't already] start reading Pak-9's programming guide, it's the ultimate key to better AVSing!

Dancing notes
the colors are a bit to flat, and with such simple renders a background is needed. just try a simple gradient, they do wonders. [and the notes' necks are on the wrong side, they need to be right when pointing upwards]
Starfish
I like this one, but still the background is missing. movements are nice and colors are too most of the time, though they'd better be less random.
Singing head
waaaahahaaahhaaa, this cannot be! ok funny indeed but too little action!
his mouth should move more often than twice a second.
Scissors
standard but ok. disabling the water effect removes the flickkering in the background and speeds this thing up. you could use a blur or better a convo filter to achieve the same effect.
Rotoswirl
I like it. but not mindblowing, standard rather
Raindrops
there are better presets which are good for their 'chill-factor'
Pretty
I find this one to be really interesting if only there would be a background and better coloring
Pinwheel
Faaaar too simple to go w/o a background...
Oscillodance 1&2
The colors are good on this one imo. but they are so nicely created and spoiled at the same time by the nowadays boring water effect. the mix doesn't bring anything new to the screen...
Orchid
would be really great with a background and more exciting coloring
Next to nothing
well this one is nice, but the regular AVS-watcher sees at once, that this is only a "slight fuzzily" + DDM standard movement remix of Oscillodance.
Mothership
really good movements and ships imo. but the background makes it look like a pile of... well, I'll spare you that.
Equalizer plus
looks good now with the yellow membranes [right word?] I liked the original [yes, I mean v1!] aproach to the movement of the boxes better though.
Wavy flower
Hehey, looks like a distinct color scheme to me. and decent movements. but the desaturated feedback as a background..., well, better than nothing but still not that pleasing to the eyes

I hope you now know what to do.
GC

review resolution[s]: 200x150 & 400x300

DarracottDude · 9th June 2006, 13:22

Many thanks for reviewing my first pack. This will be a great help to me. I still have a lot to learn, especially about backgrounds.

DarracottDude · 10th June 2006, 13:52

Quote:

Originally posted by Grandchild

Oh, and [if you haven't already] start reading Pak-9's programming guide, it's the ultimate key to better AVSing!

Thanks for the tip about Pak-9's programming guide. I had previously found the link to this guide in this thread titled "A list of AVS Tutorials" on the AVS Forum

http://forums.winamp.com/showthread....hreadid=209060

And at this link ...

http://www.deviantart.com/download/11200891/

I downloaded AVS_Programming_Guide.zip. In this zip was a folder with 18 exercises and a WordPad document titled "AVS Programming Guide" (303 kb). But when i try to open this document, i get this message ...

"WordPad has caused an error in MSWRD832.CNV. WordPad will now close."

I just downloaded it again, with the same result. Any idea why i can't open this document? The exercises are great, but i'm sure there is much more good stuff in the WordPad document.

Thanks in advance

DummyDDD · 11th June 2006, 11:03

Wordpad cannot show the document correctly, because it doesn't support all of the graphics of Word documents. If you don't have Word you should download a free office pack (like openoffice, k-office or abiword).
The exercises should be done while reading the document, which does contain much more good stuff.

DarracottDude · 11th June 2006, 14:56

Thanks for the tip. I don't have Word, so i downloaded AbiWord. Now i have the full benefit of the Pak-9 programming guide. A quick glance revealed lots of great study material. :-)

17th May 2006, 17:19	#4
JaVS_v2.5 Forum King Join Date: May 2005 Location: Seremban 2, Malaysia Posts: 2,717	Ermmm.. I just wanna say that there are good and bad presets in this pack. Should added more interesting presets.. like techy-things. People like me, love chrome-colour preset! btw, nice pack though.. keep up the g00d w0rx Last played [offline]: Lamb of God - Nippon -- JaVS :: h i p o t e s i s

21st May 2006, 15:03	#7
fastingaciu Major Dude Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Canada Posts: 940	Try and post it on the plugin section. You will get some great feedback over there. Those who can do, do; those who can't do, teach.

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17th May 2006, 16:36	#3
DarracottDude Member Join Date: Apr 2006 Posts: 67	Thanks, very cool!!

17th May 2006, 19:40	#5
DarracottDude Member Join Date: Apr 2006 Posts: 67	Thanks for the good words. At least they are not all bad. :-) I just discovered avs a few weeks ago, so it will take me some time to learn the "techy" stuff. //edit: Oh, and i'll try to include a "chrome" preset in my next pack, just for you. :-)

21st May 2006, 14:58	#6
DarracottDude Member Join Date: Apr 2006 Posts: 67	Sorry if i'm being too impatient, but after posting my beginner pack a week ago, i've been rather disappointed at the response. I was expecting at least a clue as to which of these presets were good, bad, or just ok.

26th May 2006, 11:00	#9
DummyDDD Junior Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 33	Well it's nice that you've (at least partially) learned how to use the superscope and there are some of the presets that a really nice. My personal favs in this one is orchid, pretty, rotoswirl and wavy flower. The rest of the presets seem to empty to me, because there is no effect that is in focus, and nothing that fills the background. My favorite preset in the pack is orchid, because it fills up the screen nicely, and has a nice movement, although it gets somewhat repetitive. Although the oscilliscope theme that many of the presets has is good for music visualization, I think that it's used for too many presets here, and that you should try to find a way to present it in a way that will seem more interresting. Also you should probably check your presets for unneeded parts, for instance there were sevral effectlists and probably some water that were unneeded (and dragged down the framerate slightly).

26th May 2006, 12:55	#10
DarracottDude Member Join Date: Apr 2006 Posts: 67	Many thanks for your comments and suggestions. I'm sure they will help me to do better on my next pack. I'm trying different things now, but music response will always be a must. I've also started learning Texer II, i like this APE, so my next pack will have some Texer II presets.

8th June 2006, 23:39	#13
Grandchild Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Germany Posts: 339	Overall some promising ideas, but the execution is not that good [yet]. I know this is the standard 1st pack statement... Anyway the main point in your pack is [like so often in the beginning] the coloring and background. Practise, it's not that you lack artistic sense, practise, practise! Oh, and [if you haven't already] start reading Pak-9's programming guide, it's the ultimate key to better AVSing! Dancing notes the colors are a bit to flat, and with such simple renders a background is needed. just try a simple gradient, they do wonders. [and the notes' necks are on the wrong side, they need to be right when pointing upwards] Starfish I like this one, but still the background is missing. movements are nice and colors are too most of the time, though they'd better be less random. Singing head waaaahahaaahhaaa, this cannot be! ok funny indeed but too little action! his mouth should move more often than twice a second. Scissors standard but ok. disabling the water effect removes the flickkering in the background and speeds this thing up. you could use a blur or better a convo filter to achieve the same effect. Rotoswirl I like it. but not mindblowing, standard rather Raindrops there are better presets which are good for their 'chill-factor' Pretty I find this one to be really interesting if only there would be a background and better coloring Pinwheel Faaaar too simple to go w/o a background... Oscillodance 1&2 The colors are good on this one imo. but they are so nicely created and spoiled at the same time by the nowadays boring water effect. the mix doesn't bring anything new to the screen... Orchid would be really great with a background and more exciting coloring Next to nothing well this one is nice, but the regular AVS-watcher sees at once, that this is only a "slight fuzzily" + DDM standard movement remix of Oscillodance. Mothership really good movements and ships imo. but the background makes it look like a pile of... well, I'll spare you that. Equalizer plus looks good now with the yellow membranes [right word?] I liked the original [yes, I mean v1!] aproach to the movement of the boxes better though. Wavy flower Hehey, looks like a distinct color scheme to me. and decent movements. but the desaturated feedback as a background..., well, better than nothing but still not that pleasing to the eyes I hope you now know what to do. GC review resolution[s]: 200x150 & 400x300

9th June 2006, 13:22	#14
DarracottDude Member Join Date: Apr 2006 Posts: 67	Many thanks for reviewing my first pack. This will be a great help to me. I still have a lot to learn, especially about backgrounds.

11th June 2006, 11:03	#16
DummyDDD Junior Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 33	Wordpad cannot show the document correctly, because it doesn't support all of the graphics of Word documents. If you don't have Word you should download a free office pack (like openoffice, k-office or abiword). The exercises should be done while reading the document, which does contain much more good stuff.

11th June 2006, 14:56	#17
DarracottDude Member Join Date: Apr 2006 Posts: 67	Thanks for the tip. I don't have Word, so i downloaded AbiWord. Now i have the full benefit of the Pak-9 programming guide. A quick glance revealed lots of great study material. :-)