Winamp Sucks Now

[m_kaminsky]

Been using Winamp forever...now I'm switching cause it alwase crashes under vista, pretty much anything WILL NOT PLAY. Anyone know about a better player?

[Koopa]

Anyone know about a better player?

No, there is no player, which is as powerful, customizable and innovative like Winamp is.

For no other player, you can grab tons of good skins and plug-ins.

So, instead of posting crap like this, you should read the sticky threads in tech support forum.

Winamp works fine under Vista, video support was improved and CD burning is fixed in the latest beta.

[Wolfgang]

It's amazing how much the Winamp dev team suck for not having coded with forwards compatibility in mind.

m_kaminsky, don't you think it would be more useful to, as koopatrooper points out, to look for a solution first? If you don't find one, then politely ask if there is a solution, describing your problem so that something can be done about it to help you and others.

Saying WINAMP SUCKS just isn't helpful and doesn't make people sympathetic to your cause. The fact you can't see that is bewildering since I would have thought it would be common sense, but unfortunately there is an awful lot of stupidity in this world.

[puppet87112]

Before saying win amp sucks which is doesn't have you ever thought about the fact that it might be your Opperating system.

Visa has compatability issues, the software manufactures have to come out with an upgrade to make things work on vista (generic cameras and stuff like that should work)

Programs that are not vista compatible can also cause major problems. I have vista and just did an upgrade, with all the non vista stuff on my compture it kept me from getting to my control pannel and it went slower than malasses in the winter time.

So its not win amp so to say its your os.

I am sure win amp will come up with a patch soon.

[psycho_maniac]

Originally posted by m_kaminsky
Been using Winamp forever...now I'm switching cause it alwase crashes under vista, pretty much anything WILL NOT PLAY. Anyone know about a better player?

WHY would we tell you about a "better" player on a "winamp" forum?

[UltraZelda64]

Well... I jumped off Microsoft's ship going on a year ago. As much as Winamp's latest habits have been pissing me off (especially adding useless crap like the video support CD burning, and discontinuing the "full" non-eCrap bundle), I still tend to keep an eye on it. Guess that's just what happens when you've used something for a decade... you just can't 100% let go.

Luckily, on my new home (Linux), I have found something that in most cases is *at least* as good as Winamp itself, and in some ways even outdoes it. Audacious. It uses a Winamp-style interface to begin with, and all Winamp 2.x themes are compatible, and it's got a bunch of input plug-ins that would have to be manually installed in Winamp.

Of course... it's for Linux, and since you're still on Windows... well, I guess that's of no help to you. IMO, if you "upgraded" to Vista, I think Winamp should be the least of your worries... Vista itself is probably your problem. Bleh... I'll take Windows XP any day.

[Backpacker40]

winamp does suck, or there wouldnt be so many people saying so.

I have tried everything suggested so far, but to no avail.

Ive attached a HiJackThis file, if there is nothing showing in there that is helpful, than all I have left is to permanantly uninstall winamp and use something what actually works without crashing all the time.

thanks in advance for listing to my acute frustrations.

[robdog2004]

it's not that winamp sucks its windows and windows vista that stink since they want you to use windows media player instead of other software to play music (like any major os company)

personally i would suggest going back to windows xp until windows 7 comes on the market and even at that wait a few years before updating (so they get all the kinks out)

[Backpacker40]

Originally posted by robdog2004
it's not that winamp sucks its windows and windows vista that stink since they want you to use windows media player instead of other software to play music (like any major os company)

personally i would suggest going back to windows xp until windows 7 comes on the market and even at that wait a few years before updating (so they get all the kinks out)

Thank you for responding.

I am have been, and still am running XP.

I can remember when winamp was THE media program to have.

Now all it ever does is crash.

I attached a HijackThis hoping for some help?

[robdog2004]

all i can think of doing is
1 check to see if any music drives are attached
if so detach them and see if that works
2 delete the winamp.ini from winamps folder in the app data in your user profile (normally stored c:/documents and settings/(user)/application data/winamp)
notice if you delete this file any and all settings will be lost with the program
those maybe the only options you have backpacker

p.s. (user) is the name you logon to in windows

[Backpacker40]

Originally posted by robdog2004
all i can think of doing is
1 check to see if any music drives are attached
if so detach them and see if that works
2 delete the winamp.ini from winamps folder in the app data in your user profile (normally stored c:/documents and settings/(user)/application data/winamp)
notice if you delete this file any and all settings will be lost with the program
those maybe the only options you have backpacker

p.s. (user) is the name you logon to in windows

Thank you, Ill give those a try.

Im not worried about any settings, there doesnt seem to be any settings since the upgrades to crash mode.

Bill

[net-cruizer]

lol, it's funny how retarded some people are.
For starters, Vista is crap, and you're saying Winamp is, and now you wanna switch players?
Maybe you should switch operating systems first, then try Winamp again.
Also, maybe you're PC is just junk, and Vista suckin back all your resources and messin everything up, may be causing the perfect Winamp from functioning properly.

[robdog2004]

whats bad is that even microsoft realized that vista stinks and have already scraped the project and are woking on windows 7 to get it ready for release later this year

[Entegy]

Originally posted by robdog2004
whats bad is that even microsoft realized that vista stinks and have already scraped the project and are woking on windows 7 to get it ready for release later this year

Not this again... XP is the deformed child of the Windows line. 7's release marks the return to the old release schedule of one OS about every 3 years. Vista=end of 2006. 7=end of 2009.

And 7 wouldn't be as welcomed if Vista hadn't been around since it's built of the same codebase.

[Backpacker40]

Originally posted by net-cruizer
lol, it's funny how retarded some people are.
For starters, Vista is crap, and you're saying Winamp is, and now you wanna switch players?
Maybe you should switch operating systems first, then try Winamp again.
Also, maybe you're PC is just junk, and Vista suckin back all your resources and messin everything up, may be causing the perfect Winamp from functioning properly.

Let me say this again:

I am, and I have been running XP.

My PC is just fine.

THE ONLY PROBLEM IS WINAMP!

It used to be the premier media player.

Now all it EVER does is CRASH and DIE!

[Backpacker40]

Originally posted by robdog2004
all i can think of doing is
1 check to see if any music drives are attached
if so detach them and see if that works
2 delete the winamp.ini from winamps folder in the app data in your user profile (normally stored c:/documents and settings/(user)/application data/winamp)
notice if you delete this file any and all settings will be lost with the program
those maybe the only options you have backpacker

p.s. (user) is the name you logon to in windows

robdog, I followed your suggestions, but again, to no avail.

I then deleted everything winamp completely and tried to re-download.

It still crashes hard and fast every time.

I greatly appreciate the time you took to help, but, as it turns out, winamp truely sucks, as EVERYONE says it does.

Just google the words "winamp sucks" and you get "286,000 for WINAMP SUCKS"

Not only will I be completely removing winamp from my system(AGAIN), I am now currently, and forever will be telling everyone I know, meet, or even aquaintance, how badly winamp sucks.

Because winamp really, truely does suck.

[Omega X]

I run Winamp on Seven and Vista flawlessly.

Clueless people installing Winamp sucks.

[Backpacker40]

Originally posted by Omega X
I run Winamp on Seven and Vista flawlessly.

Clueless people installing Winamp sucks.

Not clueless one bit.

Ive done everything suggested.

If winamp was worth a crap, it wouldnt crash, and die, constantly.

The real truth is, winamp sucks so bad that EVERYBODY says so.

Just google "winamp sucks" and see what I mean.

winamp sucks because winamp sucks and its winamps fault it sucks.

[robdog2004]

sounds more like your system is having problems which is causing winamp to crash
since my system is basically the same as yours win xp sp3
and it runs smoothly on mine
the only next step would be to upload the crash log
and the last step (which i hope it doesn't come down to) is to format your system and to reload all the basic programs you had and install all current updates from microsoft

[Mr Jones]

Originally posted by Backpacker40


Just google the words "winamp sucks" and you get "286,000 for WINAMP SUCKS"

If you Google 'Winamp is Great' you get about 6,950,000 results, just saying......

/Still using winamp for over 10 years now, still never crashes for me on any system I've used, 98/me/2000/xp/vista/7, I must be doing something wrong!

[Backpacker40]

Originally posted by Mr Jones
If you Google 'Winamp is Great' you get about 6,950,000 results, just saying......

/Still using winamp for over 10 years now, still never crashes for me on any system I've used, 98/me/2000/xp/vista/7, I must be doing something wrong!

I tried that, and guess what, the results included names of Artists, bands, and songs that included the word 'great'.

So, I did the searsh for "windows in great" with the quotes, and there is the result:

1,330 for "winamp is great".

[lostinsound]

"i love winamp" -> 401,000

Oh snap! I like this game.

[ujay]

Originally posted by Mr Jones
... /Still using winamp for over 10 years now, still never crashes for me on any system I've used, 98/me/2000/xp/vista/7 ...

You're not trying hard enough

UJ

[homes32]

the only time Winamp has ever crashed for me is when I have loaded some (incompatible) 3rd party plugins.

[robdog2004]

same here homes
and the only other time it crashes on me is with the sansa express player since wmp wants to claim it instead

[Backpacker40]

Originally posted by lostinsound
"i love winamp" -> 401,000

Oh snap! I like this game.

yeah, sure, but if you limit the responces to be within the last year, and NOT forever you get what is true:

158 for "i love winamp".

So much for your "snap"

winamp continues to suck because winamp sucks and its winamps fault that it sucks.

except for robdog, I have received nothing but riducule from this so called help forum.

not only does winamp suck, but its help forums suck, as shown in this thread by winamp people doing nothing but making sport of people with winamp issues.

I have now deleted winamp completely and searching for something that actually WORKS!

[Wildrose-Wally]

In my opinion the biggest problem is the amount of plugins people install. I only intall what I want to use, nothing else.

If you don't use a certain file type, Winamp don't have to play it. Don't install the plugin for it. Don't install visualization plugins that you don't use. Don't install library features that you don't want, etc.

Keep it lean and clean, and you will have better results.

When all those plugins are installed, sooner or later one is going to have issues with another.

That's my opinion anyway. Take it for what it's worth.

[Alpha2k6]

Originally posted by net-cruizer
lol, it's funny how retarded some people are.
For starters, Vista is crap *snip*

Thats a funny way to start a post.. vista is doing just fine, saying its crap says more of you not trying it, having sucky hardware or not knowing how to configure it.

The only flaw I find is the curent skin not showing up while hoovering over the status bar or using alt+tab.
I know this is bug is probably as old as this topic.. but still looks bad..

Also a 64-bit version would be nice, to show that winamp is till alive and kicking and changing with the times.

Also want to add that WinAMP does not suck at all its a great little player

[homes32]

Originally posted by Wolfgang
Saying WINAMP SUCKS just isn't helpful and doesn't make people sympathetic to your cause. The fact you can't see that is bewildering since I would have thought it would be common sense, but unfortunately there is an awful lot of stupidity in this world.

don't complain about peoples help when all you can do is say. "winamp sucks. it crashes all the time"

oh good that narrows it down to about 5,000 different reasons. I should be able to use my magic crystal ball to pull out the right one!


[/end of rant]

now. when Winamp crashes do you get a Windows error/debug message? if you click the show more link it should popup a window telling you what module crashed. that would be helpful here.

does anybody know if giving this guy a copy of the gen_crasher plugin(winamp's crash reporter) would help him out?

[EbonHawkAU]

I have been running Winamp Pro on Windows 2008 Server both 32 and 64 bit for more than 6 months.

Flawless operation...
(see www.win2008workstation.com for some suggested settings)

The only exception is the need to run Winamp in administrator mode to allow for audio ripping and CD burning (I would imagine sonic engine requires administrator rights). This must be due to the administrator requirements for any advanced CD operations (such as a CD/DVD burning) on Windows 2008 Server.

All in all, I am very happy with the product and its features... and I do agree with many posters here, if you do have a problem with Winamp please post the details and ask for help. Playing troll is counterproductive.

Kind Regards
EH.au

[infoteze]

WINAMP running fine in win 7 and win server 2008, no problems..

[Serpher]

Same here. On XP, Vista, Seven works fine. No crashes and etc.

[Entegy]

Originally posted by Alpha2k6
Also a 64-bit version would be nice, to show that winamp is till alive and kicking and changing with the times.

Also want to add that WinAMP does not suck at all its a great little player

As nice as that sounds, a 64-bit Winamp would probably break compatibility with every plug-in ever.

[voodoohippie]

I run a Radio station 24/7 with Winamp and SAM Encoder DSP (Only because I go live sometimes). Winamp DSP works good too as I've ran that b4 I learned about SAM DSP. Now when I had Vista nothing worked right and if you read Broadcastingworld and other Radio Station Broadcasting forums they all say the same and that is to Ditch Vista and go back to XP. An easy way for a lamer to still get XP to install and have the drivers to support your machine is to do the following?

1. Buy a Dell Vostro 200 computer $500.
2. Get a XP CD (there are legal copies sold on Ebay from people who had XP and Never opened the box.
3. Don't even bother with the built in OS on your new Dll just turn on the machine and keep hitting the F12 to get to the Bios.
4. Tell it to boot from DvD drive.
5. Install XP.
6. Put the Dell Drivers disk that comes with your Dell Vostro 200 in the drive. Select Windows XP. The drivers will automatically install.
7. Update XP after configuring your network.
8. Update all drivers.
9. Install AVG antivirus.
10. Install 7Zip.
11. Install Radio station software (if your want to broadcast). If you want to just listen Install Winamp. Now go Pro.
12. Purchase a Western Digital 1TB HDD. You'll need this especially if your Classic Rock, Progressive Rock.
13. Set the CD ripper in Winamp to Rip from CD at at least 192K Mp3. Make sure that the auto taging is taging your CD's correctly. You may have to do some homework for each CD you rip.

Now keep ripping till you have filled your 1TB HDD to the max.

You can now create a playlist with non repeating music by occasionally generating an HTML list of what you got. Use Firefox's Find feature and make sure you don't have a Repeat. If your a Progressive Rock station/Classic Rock you'll want to announce your songs after every 3 just like 70's Radio stations use to. An example would be:

Rocking with The Legacy that was "REO Speedwagon in that set and the track is called "Can't Stop Rockin'" from the Album "Building The Bridge". We also heard "Ted Nugent And The Amboy Dukes" with the song entitled "Prodigal Man" from the album "On The Edge" and we started that set with "The Cars" with the song called "Let's Go" from "Candy-O". You'll need to make an announcement file after every 3 songs something like A1.mp3, A2.mp3 and so on. Your announcement files need to be in a seperate folder.

Hopefully with your New computer you'll not have trouble with XP. If you play games you'll also need a graphics card (an older one with XP drivers). You need a Nvidia 7900 graphics card for your games.

As far as Win 7? Yet anouther rip off from M$.

FREE yourself from the shackles of Top40 and Rap!
stations.swcast.net/thelegacy

[Backpacker40]

Originally posted by homes32
don't complain about peoples help when all you can do is say. "winamp sucks. it crashes all the time"

oh good that narrows it down to about 5,000 different reasons. I should be able to use my magic crystal ball to pull out the right one!


[/end of rant]

now. when Winamp crashes do you get a Windows error/debug message? if you click the show more link it should popup a window telling you what module crashed. that would be helpful here.

does anybody know if giving this guy a copy of the gen_crasher plugin(winamp's crash reporter) would help him out?

I could get winamp to play one song, then winamp would freeze up, and lock up my computer to the point where the only key combo that worked was CTRL + ALT + DELETE. That opened the task manager, showing winamp not responding. In which case I clicked it to hilight, and then clicked "end process"

I have read and performed all of the suggestions I could find, nothing worked.

I posted a "hijackthis", to which there is still no response.

winamp used to be great. Now it does nothing but crash hard and die.

I have completely removed winamp, and am now searching for something that workes.

[homes32]

posting a hijackthis log does not tell us anything about winamp, its settings, installed plugins, etc. not very helpful at all.

[Snowgods000]

I had Problems with winamp crashing all the time, found out the problem was that I was trying to read ALL the media files on my HD (including Esoteric and ancient formats.
It seems that winamp only stores the pointer as a short INT, so that if you have more than 32,767 files winamp WILL crash, and if it's background scanning, you won't even know why
I have other issues changing things so that AVS doesn't work properly (the GetOsc and GetSpec seem to have stopped working)

[djpete]

Backpacker,
If you are willing to install Logmein (logmein.com) I will have a look at your pc for free remotely.
At least you will have a second opinion.

[Backpacker40]

Originally posted by homes32
posting a hijackthis log does not tell us anything about winamp, its settings, installed plugins, etc. not very helpful at all.

They why would such a useless suggestion be in the FAQ Troubleshooting sticky?

Frustration on top of frustration here!

[Backpacker40]

Originally posted by djpete1959
Backpacker,
If you are willing to install Logmein (logmein.com) I will have a look at your pc for free remotely.
At least you will have a second opinion.

Thank you for your kind offer, but I have removed winamp totally and completely.

I am now searching for a media player that works.

In the mean time, WMP seems to be working just fine.