5 million missing emails. An accident?

[watadoo]

Destroying emails from a govt. server is a crime. The emails generated are owned by the people. the bushies have managed to uh, mislay around 5 million. Now they won't even divulge the name of the contractor who was hired for archiving. this is a crime. Someone needs to go to jail over this.

http://blogs.abcnews.com/theblotter/...-mail-mys.html

Bush E-Mail Mystery Deepens: White House Won't Name Tech Contractor

August 31, 2007 11:20 AM

Justin Rood Reports:
The White House will not identify a private company which appears to be involved in the disappearance of potentially millions of White House e-mails.

The company was responsible for reviewing and archiving White House e-mails, a White House official told congressional staff in May, according to a letter yesterday from House Oversight and Government Reform Committee Chairman Henry Waxman, D-Calif. Congressional investigators asked then for the name of the company and "have repeatedly requested" the information since then, according to Waxman.

They are still waiting for an answer, the chairman wrote to White House counsel Fred Fielding. Waxman asked the White House to come up with the company's name by Sept. 10.

White House spokesman Scott Stanzel declined to tell the Blotter on ABCNews.com the company's name or explain why the White House would not provide it to Congress.

"We are reviewing Rep. Waxman's letter and will respond expeditiously," Stanzel said in an e-mailed statement.

Click Here for Full Blotter Coverage.

According to the White House, as many as five million e-mails may not have been properly archived and may be lost forever, in apparent violation of the Presidential Records Act. The post-Watergate law states that communications relating to official activity in the offices of the president and vice president are owned by the American public and cannot be destroyed.

The unnamed firm "was responsible for the daily audits of the e-mail system and the e-mail archiving process," Waxman said a White House briefer had attested in a May meeting.

The firm worked for the Information Assurance Directorate, under the White House chief information officer, Waxman said he was told.

In addition to requesting the firm's name, Waxman's staff has also asked to see a White House report which detailed the days on which few or no e-mails were archived; the White House has been similarly unresponsive to that request, Waxman charged, and asked it provide the document by Sept. 10 as well.

[rockouthippie]

I could give a damn what Henry "I can pick my nose up to the elbow" Waxman wants.



Just more fishing against the republicans and another democrat that needs to get a real job.... like figuring out how to help anything. His web site shows him as a champion of all these wonderful causes..... but really he hasn't done shit.... like most democrats in the last 15 years...

Somehow.... LOSING ... not passing important legislation and blaming FAILURE on the republicans has gotten to be some kind of sport....

Waxman.... get a job!

The emails are lost? Boo Hoo. Next. Now figure out something important to do.

[watadoo]

I don't want to have another pointless argument with you cause I don't think anyone wants to sit through that, but you're always saying (sometimes rightfully so) that no laws have been broken so no harm no foul, etc... Well here is an actual law that has been broken by someone at some level. Don't you think it bears investigating when 5 million emails were disappeared from a government mail server in direct violation of a federal statute? Maybe it was an accident, I'll give you the benefit of the doubt, though it would have to have been a pretty deliberate one. just saying.

[rockouthippie]

Originally posted by watadoo
Don't you think it bears investigating when 5 million emails were disappeared from a government mail server in direct violation of a federal statute?

No I don't. This country has real problems. I'm not equating trying to invent problems as a solution to anything.

[Smeggle]

put it this way - if those e-mails are 'Non recoverable' then someone has gone to a lot of trouble to make that happen!

I have software that can recover lost files even after a drive has been formatted and then parts of it over written and I'm damn sure that a forensic lab has way better software than what is available to the general public.

If they want to really rigorous about it then they go the whole hog and use 'Destruction Recovery'. Here the drive platter is destroyed in the process of recovery but fuck do they get some data back. I've personally heard of and known of cases where they have taken a drive back to the condition of when it first left manufacture! One of these drives had been formatted multiple times.

So no that data is not lost - it doesn't work like that and if it is lost then it 'Purposefully' lost or in other words one of those scheming shitbags that is currently in your government has purposefully destroyed it by use of destructive software. That is near enough the only way that data can be totally destroyed or 'Lost' (Sniggers Contemptuously)..

You know ROH? For a guy who comes across as intelligent you sure do walk around with a set of blinkers on - I came across this tonight on 911truth.org

http://911truth.org/article.php?story=20070906103632686

With a +/- of 3.1% -> 51% reckon Bush/Cheney have questions to answer while 30% say that they should be impeached outright, something which is becoming a very strong growing movement. The sooner the better. The pair of them are the most sorry assed excuse for human beings and I put the pair of them on par with Hussein, Hitler, Pol Pot, Noriega and other despots of that order.

They are an insult to the American people, the American Constitution, there political party and Humanity.




SideNote: btw before anyone thinks I'm an 'American Basher' - far from it - I'm not. I have some very good friends in America and not just folk I know online. I have friends dating back a good 20 years that I met when I was in the British Military and in public life.

[skryingbreath]

5 bucks says it's some bored intern.

[Omega X]

10 bucks says its the usual federal dept botch job.

[watadoo]

$20 says 98% of them are "Whatcha doing for lunch? pizza again?" or forwarded jokes about Bill Clinton. har!

[rockouthippie]

30% of the American voters want Bush impeached. That's fine by me. The problem is there is NO LEGAL REASON. Find one.... I'm all ears.... That doesn't mean that I agree with investigating republicans.... for winning.

Lots of broad fired investigation... no fire... damn little smoke...

Look at this article. Waxman wants the emails. BUT he has no idea what they might contain. No specific allegation... No particular charge..... pure FISHING!

Something else happened this week for all of you who think Bush blew up our trade center. Bin Laden admitted it blatantly in his latest video. He also spouted marxist crap that would make it look like he was running as a democrat presidential candidate.

Here's a quote:

The vast majority of you (Americans) want it (the Iraqi war) stopped. Thus you elected the Democratic Party for this purpose, but the Democrats haven't made a move worth mentioning. On the contrary, they continue to agree to the spending of tens of billions to continue the killing and war there, which has led to the vast majority of you being afflicted by disappointment.


There are two solutions to this (stopping the war). One is from our side and it is to continue to escalate the killing and fighting against you. This is our duty, and our brothers are carrying it out, and I ask Allah to grant them resolve and victory. And the second solution is from your side. (converting to islam)


I seriously doubt you guys want to become radical islamics.

I am truly sorry that we disappoint Mr. Bin Laden. (sarcasm) All of us would like the Iraq war to end. The United States is however a moderating power that is suppressing violence. The Iraqis have millions of dead in their strife over the years. Those numbers are being mitigated by our troops. If my life was a 100:1 trade, I'd give it in a heartbeat.

http://ap.google.com/article/ALeqM5i...SHLU6Mu_piBaJg

What we have in this country is the left of left trying to prove that relative moderates like George Bush are so right wing. Hitler bla bla bla bla. The media campaign (slander) goes well, but I'm not buying it.

You know ROH? For a guy who comes across as intelligent you sure do walk around with a set of blinkers on - I came across this tonight on 911truth.org

Yes. I want smoke before I look for a fire. I don't see shit.

I see a reasonable president that ran into the worst circumstances in modern history... and he might be wrong... but I don't subscribe to the theory that he acted in bad faith. I also don't see a hell of a lot of wiggle to give us a rosier outcome. When the southeast gets blown away in a hurricane, we get in a bipartisan war..... Gee maybe Jesus could walk on the water some and make that sweet. Other than that, how you paint a rosy outcome is beyond me.

I also don't see any sort of sense that the idea that we walk away and leave a few million people to certain death is an acceptable solution either. Neither do the democrats. Just the ones that you have for a choice for your next president.

And they're bullshitting.... they know too.

My daddy used to say. "If you have a wish in one hand and a shit in the other.... clap... you'll have a dirty face." I think that's about where we are with Iraq. His point was that work changes things and wishes get you a mouth full of turd.

Democrats can't get the votes to end the war. Why? Because even they know that shit would hit the fan beyond our ability to deal with it.

If I need a garage to park my Lincoln Town Car, I'll consider Henry Waxmans nose. Past that, the Beverly Hills jerk can consider that I am not too impressed with making us so poor that we need his designed public assistance.

[skryingbreath]

long winded posts are fail in the eyes of skry.

[Smeggle]

The problem is there is NO LEGAL REASON.

5 million LEGAL REASONS according to this thread title..and thats just to get started on the fuckers.

As for Bin Liner? As he's a big pal of the Bush family, (Well the Bin Liner family is) - that gets to be more of a fucking joke as this farce continues -

btw that is not supposition, that is not innuendo, conspiracy theory - that is admitted fact by his father and history.

So lets see - a growing movement towards impeachment and what happens? Hey Yo - here comes owld Mister Bin Liner again just to remind you what this is all about - ffs sake Pleeeease! Honestly, folk are so hung up by the fear induced paranoia of these bastards that they just can't think straight, sensibly or with any form of base intelligence.

As for the 'Religious' aspect? Go watch the first 10 - 15 mins of that last film I posted or see it HERE
that shows you some of the base facts about Religion or the modern day concept of 'Brainwashed Religion'. The part I'm referring to, Youtube is constantly censoring and deleting - probably due to some dimwitted religious 'God Warrior' (More than likely that stupid ignorant woman that was on that swap prog a year or so back or more of her ilk).

BTW - Again, it's not supposition, it's not lies, it's not possibly, it's not innuendo, it's not conspiracy,(As Bush and his cronies use), but plain simple historical fact.

Look at this article. Waxman wants the emails. BUT he has no idea what they might contain. No specific allegation... No particular charge..... pure FISHING!

He doesn't need to have an idea of what they might or might not contain, he doesn't have to give any specific charge or not, it may or may not be 'Fishing'.. That's the point, he doesn't have to give any reason because;

To quote watadoo

The post-Watergate law states that communications relating to official activity in the offices of the president and vice president are owned by the American public and cannot be destroyed.

He has every right to demand to see them irrespective of reason as does every American citizen. The law says so, American Law says so or is the President and his Mobsters exempt from American Law now? Anyone would seem to think so considering there not only blatant disregard for it but also there even more flagrant and blatant disregard for the American Constitution, something I have read on many occasion and at one time had a lot of admiration and respect for.

In it's current decimated state I feel only sadness for what once was a great document that was the basis of your culture. If it was me, I would hang my head in shame and disgrace at what they have done to that declaration because that is what it is, shameful and disgraceful.

[rockouthippie]

I tried to be as concise as possible. Perhaps reading a dozen paragraphs strains you.

[rockouthippie]

5 million LEGAL REASONS according to this thread title..and thats just to get started on the fuckers.

No. More dem bullshit. The difference between Bush and Clinton is that they PROVED shit first, I didn't like that either, because it was relative crap. They proved SHIT, then they investigated WHAT THEY FOUND.... not a broad net to look for stuff THEY DIDN'T FIND.

[skryingbreath]

GOD ITS LIKE A MASSIVE TRUCK OF STUPID RAMMED INTO THIS THREAD.

[rockouthippie]

Yeah.... I agree... Democrats bitching about lost emails that they have no proof (all 5 million of them) showed would or could show any wrongdoing of any kind.

FISHING.

What I have is no proof at all that George Bush did one immoral or illegal thing. If he did. They would have found it by now. They would have found a parking ticket. BUT THEY DIDN'T.

He must be about the most lily white president I ever saw.

[ElChevelle]

Trolling.
KNOCK IT OFF!
I'm sick of you and your idiotic trolling.

Originally posted by rockouthippie
I tried to be as concise as possible. Perhaps reading a dozen paragraphs strains you.

Reading your trollish bullshit strains us.

[rockouthippie]

Originally posted by ElChevelle
Trolling.
KNOCK IT OFF!
I'm sick of you and your idiotic trolling.

Perhaps you have a cogent comment.... EVER. Except "Bush is Hitler"

Troll? You make me laugh. If you could string 3 words together that don't involve your penis, I'd be impressed.

[skryingbreath]

in b4 b&

[rockouthippie]

Bottom line:

While Waxman is trying to figure out how to get 5 million emails that he wouldn't know what the hell to do with if he had them, soldiers are dying, Iraqis are dying.

I think Mr. Waxmans help could maybe move 10,000 miles east.

[Omega X]

[Smeggle]

Originally posted by rockouthippie
I tried to be as concise as possible. Perhaps reading a dozen paragraphs strains you.

no reading 12 paragraphs does not lead to any strain at all...

but what part of

The post-Watergate law states that communications relating to official activity in the offices of the president and vice president are owned by the American public and cannot be destroyed.

can you not understand?

It makes no difference who is in office, that documentation belongs to the American people and are part of Public Records, which means they are to be preserved and not deleted for any reason. To do so is illegal under law. Your law not mine.

BTW I'm not a democrat, actually i don't have any political leaning either way as most of it is just bull shit anyway. That said though - they are not above the law just because of who they are or what position they are in.

You can defend them as much as you wish even if you are acting like a stubborn mule doing it irrespective of the facts - which is like an ostrich sticking there head in the sand. Any American has the right republican, democrat, whatever - red neck joey from Mississippi - anyone - that is American law that says that.

Your just picking adversity due to the fact Maxwell is a Democrat and your republican. Try looking at it from a totally neutral point of view (If you possibly can - as a Judge would [or should]) - simple answer - they are breaking the law, not for the first time and probably not the last if the idiots get there way on Iran, as they did with Afghanistan and Iraq. btw - they knowingly lied as well when they said Iraq financed the attacks on 9/11 - they didn't it's a well documented fact that the finance came from a Pakistani General.

Who just happened to also be quite pally with Mr 'God Fearing Republican Bush. Jayz it's even been proved his grand dad Prescott financed fucking Hitler in ww2 ffs. I suppose you support that as well?

Who was responsible for training Bin Liner? Oh yeah thats right - Daddy Bush - who was responsible for first using him? again Daddy Bush.

They've lied right down the line about it all even in the face of documented proof.

Like the poster said - will someone give Bush a blowjob so the fucker can be impeached. Tell ye Clinton getting a blowjob and fibbing about it doesn't come anywhere near comparable to what Bush, Cheney and Rumppy Pumppy have done and said in the last 6 years! And that Ricey Dicey ffs like! Talk about fucking Dicey alright...

[shakey_snake]

Originally posted by skryingbreath
b&

wow, finally.
see ya in 6, ROH.

[ElChevelle]

Originally posted by rockouthippie
If you could string 3 words together that don't involve your penis, I'd be impressed.

How about:

Suck my dick.

[RRockouthippie]

I doubt you need it since you are in a continuous state of masturbation.

-Later

[skryingbreath]

lololol

[shakey_snake]

Originally posted by skryingbreath
lololol

[ElChevelle]

Least my masturbation consists of violent-shaking-palm-fist and not stinky-pinky-enter-the-rectum