Winamp SHOUTcast Radio problem

burnrouter · 18th October 2011, 13:19

Hello! I need some help. I usually listen to blues radio stations in Winamp SHOUTcast Radio and for the past few weeks the list of radio stations is much smaller. There was usually around 400 blues radio stations and now there is only 30. Why? And is there anything I can do to bring them back?

My second question is...because I don't have all the blues radio stations in Winamp SHOUTcast Radio I went to Winamp web page to see how many radio stations are there. I found more blues radio stations than in Winamp SHOUTcast Radio (about 200 on web page). I said alright I will play them from web page list but I will open them in Winamp program. And it works but It won't open all radio stations in Winamp. I can open some of them in Winamp but others I can only play in Browser. Why is that??? Please help. BTW I use Winamp 5.56. I hope I wrote everything in detail. Thank you in advance!

DrO · 18th October 2011, 14:19

Quote:

Originally Posted by burnrouter

for the past few weeks the list of radio stations is much smaller. There was usually around 400 blues radio stations and now there is only 30. Why?

i believe this might be related to some changes which have been made to the api which provides the results. is something i need to ask to confirm if it was intended or just something that slipped through with the changes made.

Quote:

Originally Posted by burnrouter

I said alright I will play them from web page list but I will open them in Winamp program. And it works but It won't open all radio stations in Winamp. I can open some of them in Winamp but others I can only play in Browser.

without examples of the ones that aren't working for you, it's hard to say what is possibly going wrong - as it could be from not having everything installed to play the streams or might be a bug in the version you're using. if you can provide some example links of ones that are not working then can advise from there.

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Originally Posted by burnrouter

BTW I use Winamp 5.56.

as a note, that version is not supported, with 5.621 being the currently supported version.

-daz

burnrouter · 18th October 2011, 14:37

I mean 5.621 yes I have the last version of the Winamp. I have solved the second question by finding the Settings in Help tab and selecting an option to open stations in my default media player...Winamp. But the first question is not solved. As I said there are about 200 radio stations on the Winamp Web Page in the blues genre and only 30 radio station in that genre in Winamp SHOUTcast Radio (in winamp program). Why is that?

DrO · 18th October 2011, 15:05

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Originally Posted by burnrouter

But the first question is not solved.

Quote:

Originally Posted by DrO

i believe this might be related to some changes which have been made to the api which provides the results. is something i need to ask to confirm if it was intended or just something that slipped through with the changes made.

it was answered as best as i can without having talked to the developer who maintains the backend api responsible for the in-Winamp page. when i have an answer (as a few other people have queried it recently), then i'll post back with an answer (whether it'll be liked or not - as i'm not sure why there was a change).

-daz

burnrouter · 18th October 2011, 16:31

Ok thank you.

burnrouter · 31st October 2011, 13:55

Any news? what happened to in-winamp radio stations?

DrO · 31st October 2011, 14:11

as i've not had a proper answer (hence not replying before), here's the best that i can give from what i've been able to work out from other people on the team.

there was a purposeful change for anything using the backend api which provides the results to other apps (including Winamp's view) to only get 30 results if a limit is not specified in the query (as Winamp is doing).

it requires changes to be made to the Winamp implementation to ask for more results or a specific tweak for how it's handled by the backend api when Winamp is sending the request. however due to the site failure this weekend and work on the recent Android and Mac apps, getting anything updated for the radio view is low on the list of things to be done.

probably not what you want to hear but with resources spread as is, that's the best i can say.

-daz

burnrouter · 1st November 2011, 10:46

Well better something than nothing. I guess I have to be patient. At least it's on the ''to do list''. Thank you for your reply.

DrO · 29th December 2011, 13:34

Quote:

Originally Posted by DrO

there was a purposeful change for anything using the backend api which provides the results to other apps (including Winamp's view) to only get 30 results if a limit is not specified in the query (as Winamp is doing).

that is the reason why (as i had thought had already been read and understood).

-daz

Remus65 · 13th November 2011, 07:59

The former Winamp Shoutcast Radio was by far better than the new version. In the new version not all radiostations are shown but only 50 pages. Is a shame, is not democratic. On the other hand the former Shoutcast Radio web page was better. The old version could be accessed in Windows Mobile OS with internet explorer. The new one can't be accessed with internet explorer Windows Mobile OS. On a Windows mobile phone the page can be accessed with Opera, but the search don't work. I hope that Winamp Shoutcast Radio and the Shoutcast Radio web page will ameliorate.

burnrouter · 29th December 2011, 10:55

Hello everyone! Are there any news about in-winamp radio stations? In-winamp radio stations are still missing and since my last post about 3-5% of radio stations are gone. What's happening? There are many radio stations on original winamp page (http://www.shoutcast.com/?ref=winamp), but on the in-winamp radio stations more than half are missing. Will this issue soon be on the top of the list? Thank you in advance.

DrO · 29th December 2011, 11:09

the in-Winamp view is working as it is currently expected to work with only 30 listings at most with the searches so i'm not sure what you're referring to with them 'still missing'.

also stations often will and do come & go over time - the Directory does not force stations to be listed and so if they stop broadcasting then there's no much which can be done.

-daz

burnrouter · 29th December 2011, 13:29

Hmm... Well I don't know how else to say it. On this site (http://www.shoutcast.com/radio/Blues) There are over 200 radio stations in genre BLUES and in in-winamp page there are only 30 radio stations. That's what I'm talking about. There were over 600 radio stations in that genre only a year ago for example. Why can't original page and in-winamp page have the same number of radio stations. You see...not all radio stations were shut down or erased or whatever when I can listen to them on (http://www.shoutcast.com/radio/Blues), and only on the that page. Why not in in-winamp page. I hope you understand my question and problem.

burnrouter · 29th December 2011, 13:41

Blues genre was just an example because I listen to it. Take any other genre, Pop for example and compare in-winamp radio station listings and see how many are there and than go to http://www.shoutcast.com/radio/Pop and keep on clicking on ''SHOW MORE'' and see how many you get there...i bet over 300. So how am I suppose to listen to that stations if they are not in in-winamp?

DrO · 29th December 2011, 13:54

via shoutcast.com or making finer search results via the in-Winamp view.

changes where made to limit things when a limit is not directly specified and until / if that changes (which i doubt will happen), there is nothing which can be done to change that without additional backend changes (either via the in-Winamp page's code itself or via the API which drives it all).

i realise that it seems counter-intuitive / annoying but that's what was done and is well within SHOUtcast's rights to control / limit what can or cannot be provided.

if you don't like it, you can always send feedback to SHOUTcast though whether it'll be noted or not is a different thing.

-daz

burnrouter · 29th December 2011, 14:07

I'm sorry for being annoying or boring. Just didn't understand why I can't listen to all radio stations that are on (http://www.shoutcast.com/), in in-winamp shoutcast. So please just one more simple answer and I'll be gone

. Can I or can't I listen to ALL radio stations that are on (http://www.shoutcast.com/) in in-winamp shoutcast. Just simple YES or NO. Ty

DrO · 29th December 2011, 14:13

all streams provided on shoutcast.com can be played in Winamp, but you currently cannot see all stations in in-Winamp the search results unless you know what you're looking for i.e. browsing is limited the 30 stations limit.

-daz

burnrouter · 29th December 2011, 14:27

Ok... i get it now. It's a shame. It was better before. How can I know all radio station names, it's ridiculous. Anyway, thank you for you time.

MrSinatra · 30th December 2011, 05:11

i do think it would be worthy to have www alphabetical pages that list every station reporting to the yp. it wouldn't have to have any other data aside from name of the station and a link to the stream.

TyrtieElayne · 30th December 2011, 05:15

Well better something than nothing.

notlim981 · 8th January 2012, 14:35

BTW, is there a way to add stations to my current playlist like it was before? Since 5.621, I guess, whenever I click on a station, it automatically ereases my playlist and opens the station. Thanks!

18th October 2011, 13:19	#1
burnrouter Junior Member Join Date: Oct 2011 Posts: 10	Winamp SHOUTcast Radio problem Hello! I need some help. I usually listen to blues radio stations in Winamp SHOUTcast Radio and for the past few weeks the list of radio stations is much smaller. There was usually around 400 blues radio stations and now there is only 30. Why? And is there anything I can do to bring them back? My second question is...because I don't have all the blues radio stations in Winamp SHOUTcast Radio I went to Winamp web page to see how many radio stations are there. I found more blues radio stations than in Winamp SHOUTcast Radio (about 200 on web page). I said alright I will play them from web page list but I will open them in Winamp program. And it works but It won't open all radio stations in Winamp. I can open some of them in Winamp but others I can only play in Browser. Why is that??? Please help. BTW I use Winamp 5.56. I hope I wrote everything in detail. Thank you in advance!

31st October 2011, 13:55	#6
burnrouter Junior Member Join Date: Oct 2011 Posts: 10	Any news? Any news? what happened to in-winamp radio stations?

31st October 2011, 14:11	#7
DrO Join Date: Sep 2003 Posts: 27,873	as i've not had a proper answer (hence not replying before), here's the best that i can give from what i've been able to work out from other people on the team. there was a purposeful change for anything using the backend api which provides the results to other apps (including Winamp's view) to only get 30 results if a limit is not specified in the query (as Winamp is doing). it requires changes to be made to the Winamp implementation to ask for more results or a specific tweak for how it's handled by the backend api when Winamp is sending the request. however due to the site failure this weekend and work on the recent Android and Mac apps, getting anything updated for the radio view is low on the list of things to be done. probably not what you want to hear but with resources spread as is, that's the best i can say. -daz WACUP Project <‖> "Winamp Ramblings" - Indie Winamp Dev Blog

29th December 2011, 10:55	#11
burnrouter Junior Member Join Date: Oct 2011 Posts: 10	Radio stations Hello everyone! Are there any news about in-winamp radio stations? In-winamp radio stations are still missing and since my last post about 3-5% of radio stations are gone. What's happening? There are many radio stations on original winamp page (http://www.shoutcast.com/?ref=winamp), but on the in-winamp radio stations more than half are missing. Will this issue soon be on the top of the list? Thank you in advance.

29th December 2011, 11:09	#12
DrO Join Date: Sep 2003 Posts: 27,873	the in-Winamp view is working as it is currently expected to work with only 30 listings at most with the searches so i'm not sure what you're referring to with them 'still missing'. also stations often will and do come & go over time - the Directory does not force stations to be listed and so if they stop broadcasting then there's no much which can be done. -daz WACUP Project <‖> "Winamp Ramblings" - Indie Winamp Dev Blog

18th October 2011, 14:37	#3
burnrouter Junior Member Join Date: Oct 2011 Posts: 10	I mean 5.621 yes I have the last version of the Winamp. I have solved the second question by finding the Settings in Help tab and selecting an option to open stations in my default media player...Winamp. But the first question is not solved. As I said there are about 200 radio stations on the Winamp Web Page in the blues genre and only 30 radio station in that genre in Winamp SHOUTcast Radio (in winamp program). Why is that?

18th October 2011, 16:31	#5
burnrouter Junior Member Join Date: Oct 2011 Posts: 10	Ok thank you.

1st November 2011, 10:46	#8
burnrouter Junior Member Join Date: Oct 2011 Posts: 10	Well better something than nothing. I guess I have to be patient. At least it's on the ''to do list''. Thank you for your reply.

13th November 2011, 07:59	#10
Remus65 Junior Member Join Date: Nov 2011 Posts: 7	The former Winamp Shoutcast Radio was by far better than the new version. In the new version not all radiostations are shown but only 50 pages. Is a shame, is not democratic. On the other hand the former Shoutcast Radio web page was better. The old version could be accessed in Windows Mobile OS with internet explorer. The new one can't be accessed with internet explorer Windows Mobile OS. On a Windows mobile phone the page can be accessed with Opera, but the search don't work. I hope that Winamp Shoutcast Radio and the Shoutcast Radio web page will ameliorate.

29th December 2011, 13:29	#13
burnrouter Junior Member Join Date: Oct 2011 Posts: 10	Hmm... Well I don't know how else to say it. On this site (http://www.shoutcast.com/radio/Blues) There are over 200 radio stations in genre BLUES and in in-winamp page there are only 30 radio stations. That's what I'm talking about. There were over 600 radio stations in that genre only a year ago for example. Why can't original page and in-winamp page have the same number of radio stations. You see...not all radio stations were shut down or erased or whatever when I can listen to them on (http://www.shoutcast.com/radio/Blues), and only on the that page. Why not in in-winamp page. I hope you understand my question and problem.

29th December 2011, 13:41	#14
burnrouter Junior Member Join Date: Oct 2011 Posts: 10	Blues genre was just an example because I listen to it. Take any other genre, Pop for example and compare in-winamp radio station listings and see how many are there and than go to http://www.shoutcast.com/radio/Pop and keep on clicking on ''SHOW MORE'' and see how many you get there...i bet over 300. So how am I suppose to listen to that stations if they are not in in-winamp?

29th December 2011, 13:54	#15
DrO Join Date: Sep 2003 Posts: 27,873	via shoutcast.com or making finer search results via the in-Winamp view. changes where made to limit things when a limit is not directly specified and until / if that changes (which i doubt will happen), there is nothing which can be done to change that without additional backend changes (either via the in-Winamp page's code itself or via the API which drives it all). i realise that it seems counter-intuitive / annoying but that's what was done and is well within SHOUtcast's rights to control / limit what can or cannot be provided. if you don't like it, you can always send feedback to SHOUTcast though whether it'll be noted or not is a different thing. -daz WACUP Project <‖> "Winamp Ramblings" - Indie Winamp Dev Blog

29th December 2011, 14:07	#16
burnrouter Junior Member Join Date: Oct 2011 Posts: 10	I'm sorry for being annoying or boring. Just didn't understand why I can't listen to all radio stations that are on (http://www.shoutcast.com/), in in-winamp shoutcast. So please just one more simple answer and I'll be gone . Can I or can't I listen to ALL radio stations that are on (http://www.shoutcast.com/) in in-winamp shoutcast. Just simple YES or NO. Ty

29th December 2011, 14:13	#17
DrO Join Date: Sep 2003 Posts: 27,873	all streams provided on shoutcast.com can be played in Winamp, but you currently cannot see all stations in in-Winamp the search results unless you know what you're looking for i.e. browsing is limited the 30 stations limit. -daz WACUP Project <‖> "Winamp Ramblings" - Indie Winamp Dev Blog

29th December 2011, 14:27	#18
burnrouter Junior Member Join Date: Oct 2011 Posts: 10	Ok... i get it now. It's a shame. It was better before. How can I know all radio station names, it's ridiculous. Anyway, thank you for you time.

30th December 2011, 05:11	#19
MrSinatra Forum King Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: WKPS, State College Posts: 5,791	i do think it would be worthy to have www alphabetical pages that list every station reporting to the yp. it wouldn't have to have any other data aside from name of the station and a link to the stream. PENN STATE Radio or http://www.LION-Radio.org/ -- BUG #1 = Winamp skips short tracks Wish #1 = Multiple Column Sorting Wish #2 = Add TCMP/Compilation editing

30th December 2011, 05:15	#20
TyrtieElayne Junior Member Join Date: Dec 2011 Posts: 4	Well better something than nothing.

8th January 2012, 14:35	#21
notlim981 Junior Member Join Date: Jul 2010 Posts: 18	BTW, is there a way to add stations to my current playlist like it was before? Since 5.621, I guess, whenever I click on a station, it automatically ereases my playlist and opens the station. Thanks!

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