Waste

Bizzeh · 16th July 2003, 19:37

i know AOL dont like it... but.. that hasnt stoped people from getting there hands on it.. its GPL, theres nothing AOL can actualy do about it...

i hosted it at www.dhorrocks2003.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk and currently i have had 934973 downloads of waste/waste source so far.. thats over a whoping 650GB. also, there have been over 2 million unique page veiws too...

just thought i would update you on how WATSE is doing, and how AOL are missing out on what seems like a very popular product.

Bizzy

parksie · 16th July 2003, 19:38

My arse you had that many downloads

ADMIT IT BIZZY :>

Bizzeh · 16th July 2003, 19:40

its true... i think it falls down to someone posting the links on neowin, beta news and slashdot

baafie · 16th July 2003, 19:40

Actually.. since AOL owns Nullsoft, and Nullsoft owns WASTE, AOL can do with WASTE whatever they want to do with it, no? Although, I'm not sure if a company can 'withdraw' a release. Legally, that is.

Bizzeh · 16th July 2003, 19:42

baaf: anything under GPL, anyone who has it... can distriute it as long as its in its origional state... witch is all im doing.. also.. i think GPL lets you edit the source and build your own stuff from it, as long as you say what the origional source was

apollos · 16th July 2003, 20:21

buhaha, all I have to say is your avitar is my favourite on these boards after Mia's Bizzy, very funny

as for Waste, go norty Bizzy, or should that be norty AOL for being so homosexual?

baafie · 16th July 2003, 20:24

Speaking of modification.. someone should make this usable on the internet (I believe the current release only works on LANs). It'd probably work not unlike Direct Connect.. but securely.

Bizzeh · 16th July 2003, 20:41

it works over the internet... just as long as u know the persons ip and public key you want to connect to (you ask them for it)

baafie · 16th July 2003, 20:43

Hm.. nice.

ujay · 16th July 2003, 21:32

More info here

Managed to get a 3 way set up going, with mixed results. Looks good for small groups of friends, but don't see that it offers much more than a private hub on DC.

Early days yet, we'll see.

UJ

GoldenSphynx · 16th July 2003, 23:02

Quote:

Originally posted by parksie
ADMIT IT BIZZY :>

Last time I said that Bizzy got so pissed. rofl

As for waste, I never thought I needed it since it's for LANs but I may try it out as mentioned that it can work over the internet. Thanks Bizzy.

Bizzeh · 16th July 2003, 23:28

all u need is the ip and the public key of the person u want to connect to... and they need your public key... then.... u can connect lan networks to internet networks

Merlin · 16th July 2003, 23:30

A bit like DC, but with more hassle.

dlinkwit27 · 17th July 2003, 01:16

what is "public key"?

s0be · 17th July 2003, 06:49

and on a technical note to flog a horse here, AOL can actually pull the release, but to do so, there are some things they need to do. They need to show that Nullsoft could not release the product without their permission. I believe that this will not be achievable due to the way that nullsoft has always been able to release whatever whenever. If AOL can show that, then they can state that nullsoft did not have the right to release it GPL.

s0be

Mr_007 · 17th July 2003, 10:06

I agree!

DanBUK · 22nd July 2003, 10:52

NEW Waste forum
Located here: http://freebox.mine.nu/xmb

Vie · 22nd July 2003, 10:59

Arnt we banded from putting thease up now?

DanBUK · 22nd July 2003, 11:05

I don't know do we? Sorry if we do...
Just trying to get a little space taking about Waste...

Vie · 22nd July 2003, 11:08

I'm not sure myself, just asking, looked at the forums, there actualy quite good, just a bit... ..empty at the moment.

will · 22nd July 2003, 11:12

Quote:

Originally posted by DanBUK
NEW Waste forum
Located here: http://freebox.mine.nu/xmb

Read your PM's

duh · 5th August 2003, 02:13

WASTE was mentioned in this weeks TIME (owned by AOL/Time Warner)(here I go breaking more copyrights)
"The cat-and-mouse game between computer programmers and the music industry is heating up. The next generation of file-sharing software, programmers promise, will provide anonymity that not even ISPs will be able to crack. New online services with names like Earth Station 5 and W.A.S.T.E. claim to have done that already, but none are quite ready for prime time"

I thought AOL wanted to keep it on the d/l

dlinkwit27 · 5th August 2003, 02:15

Quote:

Originally posted by duh
I thought AOL wanted to keep it on the d/l

of course they don't want it on the d/l. Now that it has been 'released' to the public, they have to act like they knew about it the whole time, and like they were in conrol. Very few of teh general population know what really happened.

16th July 2003, 19:37	#1
Bizzeh Forum Pirate Beta Team Join Date: Oct 2001 Posts: 2,032	Waste i know AOL dont like it... but.. that hasnt stoped people from getting there hands on it.. its GPL, theres nothing AOL can actualy do about it... i hosted it at www.dhorrocks2003.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk and currently i have had 934973 downloads of waste/waste source so far.. thats over a whoping 650GB. also, there have been over 2 million unique page veiws too... just thought i would update you on how WATSE is doing, and how AOL are missing out on what seems like a very popular product. Bizzy Wap Server For Winamp 5 :: Kill All The Humans :: Blackpool Hotels

16th July 2003, 19:40	#3
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16th July 2003, 19:42	#5
Bizzeh Forum Pirate Beta Team Join Date: Oct 2001 Posts: 2,032	baaf: anything under GPL, anyone who has it... can distriute it as long as its in its origional state... witch is all im doing.. also.. i think GPL lets you edit the source and build your own stuff from it, as long as you say what the origional source was Wap Server For Winamp 5 :: Kill All The Humans :: Blackpool Hotels

16th July 2003, 20:41	#8
Bizzeh Forum Pirate Beta Team Join Date: Oct 2001 Posts: 2,032	it works over the internet... just as long as u know the persons ip and public key you want to connect to (you ask them for it) Wap Server For Winamp 5 :: Kill All The Humans :: Blackpool Hotels

16th July 2003, 23:28	#12
Bizzeh Forum Pirate Beta Team Join Date: Oct 2001 Posts: 2,032	all u need is the ip and the public key of the person u want to connect to... and they need your public key... then.... u can connect lan networks to internet networks Wap Server For Winamp 5 :: Kill All The Humans :: Blackpool Hotels

16th July 2003, 19:38	#2
parksie Junior Member Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Sitting under your desk Posts: 41	My arse you had that many downloads ADMIT IT BIZZY :>

16th July 2003, 19:40	#4
baafie feminazi (Major Dude) Join Date: Apr 2001 Posts: 1,767	Actually.. since AOL owns Nullsoft, and Nullsoft owns WASTE, AOL can do with WASTE whatever they want to do with it, no? Although, I'm not sure if a company can 'withdraw' a release. Legally, that is.

16th July 2003, 20:21	#6
apollos Forum King Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Canterbury & Plymouth Posts: 4,176	buhaha, all I have to say is your avitar is my favourite on these boards after Mia's Bizzy, very funny as for Waste, go norty Bizzy, or should that be norty AOL for being so homosexual?

16th July 2003, 20:24	#7
baafie feminazi (Major Dude) Join Date: Apr 2001 Posts: 1,767	Speaking of modification.. someone should make this usable on the internet (I believe the current release only works on LANs). It'd probably work not unlike Direct Connect.. but securely.

16th July 2003, 20:43	#9
baafie feminazi (Major Dude) Join Date: Apr 2001 Posts: 1,767	Hm.. nice.

16th July 2003, 21:32	#10
ujay Forum King Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: London Posts: 6,072	More info here Managed to get a 3 way set up going, with mixed results. Looks good for small groups of friends, but don't see that it offers much more than a private hub on DC. Early days yet, we'll see. UJ

16th July 2003, 23:30	#13
Merlin ¯¯¯¯¯¯¯ (Forum King) Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Manchester Posts: 4,209	A bit like DC, but with more hassle. as he faced the sun, he cast no shadow __________________

17th July 2003, 01:16	#14
dlinkwit27 has no CT (Forum King) Join Date: Sep 2000 Posts: 13,236	what is "public key"? ::Deviant Me::Last.fm::WhatPulse Stats::Folding @ Home

17th July 2003, 06:49	#15
s0be Major Dude Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: melbourne Posts: First Posts: 1,313	and on a technical note to flog a horse here, AOL can actually pull the release, but to do so, there are some things they need to do. They need to show that Nullsoft could not release the product without their permission. I believe that this will not be achievable due to the way that nullsoft has always been able to release whatever whenever. If AOL can show that, then they can state that nullsoft did not have the right to release it GPL. s0be And On that day, the Lords of the land said unto their Master Architect, "The temple you have made to the gods of Wasabi and Maki has brought us no great prosperity" and they sent out him into the lands. As he traveled to a far off land, he found he wasn't traveling alone, but that he had gained companions, and when they found their new land, they started work on a new temple, one that would be OPEN to all who wanted to worship. from The Book of Wasabi C 12 Vs 09 (pg 2003)

17th July 2003, 10:06	#16
Mr_007 Banned Join Date: Feb 2003 Posts: 2,838	I agree!

22nd July 2003, 10:52	#17
DanBUK Junior Member Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: UK Posts: 8	NEW Waste forum Located here: http://freebox.mine.nu/xmb

22nd July 2003, 10:59	#18
Vie Forum King Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Thoron fields and Duranium shadows. Posts: Crap mostly Posts: 8,003	Arnt we banded from putting thease up now? Member most in need of SpellCheck Lifetime Achievement Award I'm a Twitch Streamer these days, it's weird.

22nd July 2003, 11:05	#19
DanBUK Junior Member Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: UK Posts: 8	I don't know I don't know do we? Sorry if we do... Just trying to get a little space taking about Waste...

22nd July 2003, 11:08	#20
Vie Forum King Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Thoron fields and Duranium shadows. Posts: Crap mostly Posts: 8,003	I'm not sure myself, just asking, looked at the forums, there actualy quite good, just a bit... ..empty at the moment. Member most in need of SpellCheck Lifetime Achievement Award I'm a Twitch Streamer these days, it's weird.

5th August 2003, 02:13	#22
duh Banned Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Phoenix, AZ Posts: 290	WASTE was mentioned in this weeks TIME (owned by AOL/Time Warner)(here I go breaking more copyrights) "The cat-and-mouse game between computer programmers and the music industry is heating up. The next generation of file-sharing software, programmers promise, will provide anonymity that not even ISPs will be able to crack. New online services with names like Earth Station 5 and W.A.S.T.E. claim to have done that already, but none are quite ready for prime time" I thought AOL wanted to keep it on the d/l

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