Nullsoft WASTE

Yathosho · 30th May 2003, 10:11

nullsoft released waste and i was wondering who to benefit from it. i think we could use it instead of irc (and open a channel there) and also as somekind of avs p2p.

anubis2003 · 30th May 2003, 11:12

Looks alright, but mIRC is good enough for me.

sidd · 30th May 2003, 12:42

well see what happens.. see what features come about..
Because it is open source/binary, it will probably explode into a very popular platform. Plus, it is more adaptable to AVSers because of the file sharing/browsing aspect.

Quote:

"Firewall issues become moot as messages are routed to the appropriate party through other hosts.

You can imagine that this will be music to alot of peoples ears.

[edit] im all for setting up an AVSers channel/group/whatever

Phaze1987 · 30th May 2003, 20:16

I suggest you guys use mIRC-friendly and easy and customizable-and give Undernet a shot...That network is big,user friendly and #avs is free

We can register it and make that channel the primary avs chat channel.

mikm · 30th May 2003, 20:36

oh god...more fragmentation

I think that we should try to LIMIT the sites we use. So much easier.

dirkdeftly · 30th May 2003, 20:52

...in case you haven't noticed, there is that #FINNISH-FLASH that BOTH of you frequent already...besides that i heartily agree with m2k, the last thing we need is another avs site/chan floating around.

zamuz · 30th May 2003, 21:01

that 'avs p2p' idea sounds really cool, and i think that it's up to each one of us which site to use. WASTE would be kinda different from those sites cause it's real-time... that's what i think.

Phaze1987 · 30th May 2003, 21:40

yeah but isnt finnish flash going to brake up ? And the chan will be purged i guess...

Rovastar · 31st May 2003, 00:46

FYI WASTE is no more. See www.nullsoft.com/free/waste/ for more info and that is as much as I know.

I was going to lock the thread but that debate on p2p, protocols of it all can continue

(Oh and no posting linkls to the software please as they will ahve to be removed)

sidd · 31st May 2003, 00:57

yegads.. how did it get onto the news so quike if it was unofficial.
I though you would have had to release some promo shit to get that sort of responce.

So when is the real WASTE arriving?

Meanwhile, i think #finnish-flash is good enough, #avs would be pointless seeing as we allready have an AVS dedicated channel. BTW, most of the people at finnish-flash have nothing to do with finnish flash. And plus, if finnsh-flash does die, that dont meant hte channel has to.

Tuggummi · 2nd June 2003, 06:09

Even though finnish flash the team might not release anything ever again (we have 3 members "active") The channel will remain im pretty sure about that. So don't think that the death of the team will be the death of the channel.

DanBUK · 22nd July 2003, 10:49

NEW Waste forum
Located here: http://freebox.mine.nu/xmb

Magic.X · 22nd July 2003, 12:20

According to the Nullsoft statement, i guess it is not so clever, posting here that you illegaly use waste, is it?

DanBUK · 22nd July 2003, 12:59

Was it not released under GPL? (Cannot be revoked)

Also, put a search in google for
Nullsoft Waste Mirror
And I'm sure you will get more than 10 results.

Would it not be fair to say it was AOLs action that cause it to be removed?

Just my 15pence worth.

Magic.X · 22nd July 2003, 13:45

I didn't ment to tell you not to use it, just thought it would'nt be the finest idea to tell everyone, especially within Nullsofts own Forum.

Dunno wheter they care or not...

dirkdeftly · 23rd July 2003, 03:26

Well if you search for "ILLEGAL FLAMING HAMSTER PORN" you're sure to get at least 10 results too. Rule number one for debates: NEVER use Google to back up your arguments.

DanBUK · 23rd July 2003, 03:52

So Dogpile is better to use then...

Zevensoft · 23rd July 2003, 08:17

Laws shmaws, they differ too much between countries.

Yathosho · 23rd July 2003, 12:35

the question is if AOL can simply undo the license under which WASTE was released. they're in a similiar sitatuation as SCO right now.

UnConeD · 24th July 2003, 11:53

The GPL cannot be revoked, but only if the distributer had the right to release it in the first place.

Magic.X · 24th July 2003, 12:12

As far as i know, this prog found it's way onto the site by mistake, which for my understanding doesn't include any kind of license for those who redistributed it.

But i think this will be released sooner or later anyway.

30th May 2003, 10:11	#1
Yathosho Forum King Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: AT-DE Posts: 3,366	Nullsoft WASTE nullsoft released waste and i was wondering who to benefit from it. i think we could use it instead of irc (and open a channel there) and also as somekind of avs p2p. NSIS IDE for Atom \| NSIS for Visual Studio Code \| NSIS for Sublime Text \| NSIS.docset

30th May 2003, 11:12	#2
anubis2003 Forum King Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: middle of somewhere Posts: 5,564	Looks alright, but mIRC is good enough for me. [Over The Monkey] \| [My DeviantArt] \| [Se ti] \| [Atmo Digital Design Forums]

30th May 2003, 20:16	#4
Phaze1987 Major Dude Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Lula The Sexy Empire Posts: 916	I suggest you guys use mIRC-friendly and easy and customizable-and give Undernet a shot...That network is big,user friendly and #avs is free We can register it and make that channel the primary avs chat channel. \| -Mail me- \| -Visit my DA page- \| -Talk to me on IRC-(nick Phaze1NE)- \|

30th May 2003, 20:36	#5
mikm Major Dude Join Date: May 2001 Location: somewhere else Posts: 1,286	oh god...more fragmentation I think that we should try to LIMIT the sites we use. So much easier. powered by C₈H₁₀N₄O₂

30th May 2003, 20:52	#6
dirkdeftly Forum King Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Cydonia, Mars Posts: 2,651	...in case you haven't noticed, there is that #FINNISH-FLASH that BOTH of you frequent already...besides that i heartily agree with m2k, the last thing we need is another avs site/chan floating around. "guilt is the cause of more disauders than history's most obscene marorders" --E. E. Cummings

30th May 2003, 21:01	#7
zamuz Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: santiago, chile Posts: 152	that 'avs p2p' idea sounds really cool, and i think that it's up to each one of us which site to use. WASTE would be kinda different from those sites cause it's real-time... that's what i think.

30th May 2003, 21:40	#8
Phaze1987 Major Dude Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Lula The Sexy Empire Posts: 916	yeah but isnt finnish flash going to brake up ? And the chan will be purged i guess... \| -Mail me- \| -Visit my DA page- \| -Talk to me on IRC-(nick Phaze1NE)- \|

31st May 2003, 00:46	#9
Rovastar Moderator Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: London, England Posts: 3,632	FYI WASTE is no more. See www.nullsoft.com/free/waste/ for more info and that is as much as I know. I was going to lock the thread but that debate on p2p, protocols of it all can continue (Oh and no posting linkls to the software please as they will ahve to be removed) "Rules are for the guidance of wisemen and the obedience of fools" Visuals - Morphyre www.Morphyre.com

31st May 2003, 00:57	#10
sidd Major Dude Join Date: May 2003 Location: Australia Posts: 1,353	yegads.. how did it get onto the news so quike if it was unofficial. I though you would have had to release some promo shit to get that sort of responce. So when is the real WASTE arriving? Meanwhile, i think #finnish-flash is good enough, #avs would be pointless seeing as we allready have an AVS dedicated channel. BTW, most of the people at finnish-flash have nothing to do with finnish flash. And plus, if finnsh-flash does die, that dont meant hte channel has to.

2nd June 2003, 06:09	#11
Tuggummi Bin King Join Date: Mar 2001 Location: Finland Posts: 2,179	Even though finnish flash the team might not release anything ever again (we have 3 members "active") The channel will remain im pretty sure about that. So don't think that the death of the team will be the death of the channel. Texer Resources Im retarded... err i mean retired! Probably both...

22nd July 2003, 10:49	#12
DanBUK Junior Member Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: UK Posts: 8	New Waste forums NEW Waste forum Located here: http://freebox.mine.nu/xmb

22nd July 2003, 12:20	#13
Magic.X Major Dude Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Leipzig / Germany Posts: 859	According to the Nullsoft statement, i guess it is not so clever, posting here that you illegaly use waste, is it? -=[The Ultimate VJ-Tool for AVS]=- Hotlist 2.3 developement thread (old)

22nd July 2003, 12:59	#14
DanBUK Junior Member Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: UK Posts: 8	Was it not released under GPL? (Cannot be revoked) Also, put a search in google for Nullsoft Waste Mirror And I'm sure you will get more than 10 results. Would it not be fair to say it was AOLs action that cause it to be removed? Just my 15pence worth.

22nd July 2003, 13:45	#15
Magic.X Major Dude Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Leipzig / Germany Posts: 859	I didn't ment to tell you not to use it, just thought it would'nt be the finest idea to tell everyone, especially within Nullsofts own Forum. Dunno wheter they care or not... -=[The Ultimate VJ-Tool for AVS]=- Hotlist 2.3 developement thread (old)

23rd July 2003, 03:26	#16
dirkdeftly Forum King Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Cydonia, Mars Posts: 2,651	Well if you search for "ILLEGAL FLAMING HAMSTER PORN" you're sure to get at least 10 results too. Rule number one for debates: NEVER use Google to back up your arguments. "guilt is the cause of more disauders than history's most obscene marorders" --E. E. Cummings

23rd July 2003, 03:52	#17
DanBUK Junior Member Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: UK Posts: 8	Sarcasm So Dogpile is better to use then...

23rd July 2003, 08:17	#18
Zevensoft Major Dude Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Ballarat, Australia Posts: 529	Laws shmaws, they differ too much between countries. 1 \| 2 \| 3 \| 4 \| 3W \| 4W W

23rd July 2003, 12:35	#19
Yathosho Forum King Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: AT-DE Posts: 3,366	the question is if AOL can simply undo the license under which WASTE was released. they're in a similiar sitatuation as SCO right now. NSIS IDE for Atom \| NSIS for Visual Studio Code \| NSIS for Sublime Text \| NSIS.docset

24th July 2003, 11:53	#20
UnConeD Whacked Moderator Join Date: Jun 2001 Posts: 2,104	The GPL cannot be revoked, but only if the distributer had the right to release it in the first place.

24th July 2003, 12:12	#21
Magic.X Major Dude Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Leipzig / Germany Posts: 859	As far as i know, this prog found it's way onto the site by mistake, which for my understanding doesn't include any kind of license for those who redistributed it. But i think this will be released sooner or later anyway. -=[The Ultimate VJ-Tool for AVS]=- Hotlist 2.3 developement thread (old)

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