Originally posted by BlueBalls
Not just monaux's skin, I can't believe Akura GT, Avalon and the Strongbad amp didn't even get in the top 6. Yes, I did insult the judges, I may be friends with some of them, but it doesn't stop the fact that I don't agree with many of those top finishers. Dimichan deserved it but..........................
Right, so you would choose Lord of Landmines, Akura GT, avalon, strongbad, and The Hollow for your top 5. Definitely a good list - but they were by no means the only good entries. So how likely do you think that all 6 other judges - considering that the judges were specifically, and rightly, chosen to represent as broad a range of tastes as possible - would vote for those particular 5 skins? And if those 5 skins did
make it, one could just as easily have complained at the absence of xenosomething's, e-raser's, Xerxes', [e]ocbina's, Will's, Luigi Hann's and quite a few others'. You say that the Mario skin didn't change much (though the remix did have some very fun and very nicely made things in it). Well, people could argue that Akura GT didn't change much either. You say that there are loads of skins that look like the circuit skin, well, people could argue - like xeno did - that there are loads that look quite similar to Lord of Landmines, or conversely, that LOLM didn't actually resemble EnergyAmp enough. Nevertheless, these were all very good skins, and these things, and many others, were all things that the judges had to consider, and it was never going to be easy for any one judge to narrow the list down to 5.
If the judging was all up to me, the top 5 would have been a bit different too. If it was up to any
of the 7 judges alone, the results would have been quite different - the judges' top 5's all looked quite different (and btw, most of the skins you mentioned overall scored quite highly). There were quite a few more than 5 skins that were feasible contenders for the top 5, and the results were never going to be clear cut, so to come to a result that was fairest to everyone was to get several judges that all knew their stuff, skin-wise, very well, but represented a broad range of tastes, to vote collectively. And inevitably, the results weren't going to be exactly how you would see them, or how I would see them, or how any of the individual judges would see them - nor should they have been, as the judging panel was meant to, as much as reasonably possible, represent the skinning community as a whole.
Originally posted by Jellby
Hmm... not the fairest system, in my opinion. I'd have chosen each judge to rate each skin 0-10 (with decimals). But no voting system is really fair (this has been mathematically proven).
I strongly considered that system at first, but eventually decided quite strongly against it because when assigning each skin a number out of a hundred to each skin (or 10 with decimals), you don't actually know how it's going to turn out. You give each skin a rating out of 100 and at the end, each skin has some numerical score, and that's that - and quite possibly you're left thinking "hmm, I thought I really liked skin #14, but the numbers say that I liked #1, #8, #15, #19, and #22 better
". I wanted to force the skinners to really scratch their heads, compare the remixes to one another, think, re-think, eliminate, wondering which of the 23 skins they really
liked and were going to put in their 'elite group of 5'. That way, the only skins that would get points would be skins that each judge really considered to be the creme de la creme of the 23. And we wouldn't have a situation where a skin won the contest because it received somewhat
good scores from all
of the judges, though none of them actually thought it was "special".
As you say, no system is perfect, but that's the main reason why I opted with that one.