enough is enough! (RIAA)

[Neoinean]

Frankly, it just goes to show what I've been saying all along...people are greedy and they don't give a flying fig who they damage, as long as they get what they want, which is mostly money these days. It's sad to see a child being sued. If that same child commited an illegal act, knowingly, and confessed, the courts would have given her a slap on the wrist as a first offender, and here they are taking money she probably can't afford, for a first offense she might not have been aware of.
The sites offering dl's for music are doing so legally, otherwise, why isn't the RIAA shutting them down? If you can still be sued for using a pay site, isn't it that pay sites fault for allowing access to so called illegal material?
Further, here's a thought to mull over...we all probably have a VCR or DVD player or both. Those that have VCR's, how many of you use it to record things from the tv? If downloading music that someone pays for and shares is illegal, then is it not also illegal to copy television programs and or movies, regardless if you paid for the service?
Here's another little tidbit...Most piracy connects overseas. Compared to America, other countries 'steal' more than anyone. I won't say where, but while living abroad, I saw in a very small town, three shops full of pirated tapes, i.e. they'd copied them from a sat dish, and were renting and selling them to the locals. If someone did that here, they'd be arrested.
I wanted to buy a music tape while living there, and guess what? They didnt have it on tape, so they offered to open a cd and copy it to a tape, charging me only 1.50 for the tape. If I'd have bought that, customs would've stopped me right fast. So you see, attacking American citizens isn't going to stop the problem they perceive.
What's more, the artists don't even see a penny of the money the lawyers collect. That $2,000 they'll collect, will go right into their own pocket, so please don't give me the artists are being robbed speel. The artists receive about $1.00 of each cd that's sold, which costs around $20.00 in most places, which means, the music industry makes a huge profit off of them. But hey, that's the American way, isn't it?
Meanwhile, the American people are the one's being screwed for the greed of others, and enough is enough. Before we know it, they'll seek to make it legal to load a little piece of code into everyone's computer that allows them to see everything you do on it. Might as well build see through houses, because it all boils down to a lack of respect and privacy from our country, and what really gets me is people complain, but who does anything?
Whether it goes anywhere or not, at least Morpheus is encouraging everyone to write in and lodge a formal complaint. All those who still believe in the Democracy this country was founded on, please check out www.morpheus.com and lodge your complaint officially with our government.
Facts are, in summary,...
1. the lawyers are invading our privacy
2. they're attempting to shut down all file sharing, which would also stop the sharing of public domain files, which are NOT illegal to download.
3. the artists are not seeing a penny of the money they're suing for.
4. this action by RIAA..when will it stop? Will we loose the freedom to share information in the long run, period?
Scary thougths. Too bad there isnt another America to move to, because I think King George is back with a vengeance.

[Magic_Midget]

ur facts...

1. Not all lawyers are invading our privacy act, ISPs are being ratted out by the RIAA to gain access to our informational statistics

2. They can try to attempt a shutdown, but file-sharing will always be around for as long as the internet stays alive.

3. The artists are gonna get some restitution, but it's gonna be pretty low. I know some of those recording industries will like to get apiece of our wallet.

4. RIAA, what they did to the old man, lil girl, and the broken housewife, will reflect on their conscience in the future. As times change, and more amendments pass regarding information sharing. Some of the lawyers in select California cities are rising up against this as well as congressman. And once Norm Coleman the senator against file sharing DIES, RIAA will lose some of its effectiveness.

I don't think the President is going to do anything. That guy is just on a spending spree with the war efforts and maintaining peace. He hasn't done shit yet about our needs especially jobs, so how is he gonna be involved in this?

Those are my opinions.....future is uncertain...hehe

[Neoinean]

you're right. file sharing will be around forever, but the thing is, the serious ones are routing through another country where they can't be detected. Example, a country small and seemingly insignificant, can easily set up a third party connection where the computers connecting have no contact with each other. This way, those trying to ferret out ip's won't get the real ip, they'll get some little guy in (zimbombidu) who they can't sue anyway :-)

[Magic_Midget]

Take Kazaa for example...Sharman networks was originally based out in Sweden until the Napster incident, they moved somewhere. I dont know the location no more....but there somewhere.

Point is, someone can establish a server out in the middle of nowhere and it will take the govt a while to find out where it is.

[Neoinean]

That's exactly my point. Meanwhile, RIAA makes themselves nice and rich in a modern day witch hunt; file sharing will just become more artfully done, and we take a time warp back to the middle ages where the lowly serfs bend to the lords, which is what we bloody well came to America to get away from.
Hmmm. Just had a thought...long ago the people revolted on more than one occasion, often hanging, beheading, or maiming the lords for mismanagement of their government....Not saying anyone should follow suit, but it wouldn't surprise me if someone ever did.

[whiteflip]

You got to understand that the RIAA isnt an individual company with the whole intent of sueing people. Its all of the recording industry using it as a face to hide their true intentions

When the RIAA sues someone or does something stupid, people dont automatically think that sony and AOLTW are behind it. They should. People should get pissed off at the big 5 record lables and not the RIAA since its the big 5 record lables that are doing these things through the RIAA.

If you want to get rid of the RIAA get rid of Sony EMI AOLTW BMG or whatever. The RIAA is just a way for them to save face and piss people off.

[Neoinean]

people arent that stupid. we know who's behind the RIAA, but sometimes wars must be won in steps. First step is to defang the dogs, then we can proceed to finding and hanging the lord of the manor. Otherwise, if you go after those 5 companies directly...well, nice knowing ya.
On that note though, one good way of attacking it all in one lump sum is to boycott all of them, but then, ppl are too spoiled to live without something just to make a point. They'd rather whine than actually do something...most ppl mind you, not all.
(ps) I could've commented on more, such as the point you made in my original post, but then it would have been so long it'd have taken 2 hours to read it. I didn't think that would go over so well.

[BRi7X]

http://www.eff.org/share/petition/

[mikm]

The RIAA will never die, despite what you may think.

[Neoinean]

I seem to recall someone saying something very similar about the titanic once....