Winamp 2.9, Winamp3, and the future - Page 10

Wildrose-Wally · 28th September 2003, 04:59

Quote:

Winamp 5 is coming along good. Looks like the big launch date is pushed to early November. This is taking forever. But at least it'll give us time to make the it pretty solid. Good times. While they last.

Compumyst · 7th October 2003, 06:53

This is the first time that I've looked at these forums. Now I know why there has been no update to Winamp 3. I suddenly feel I can wait a bit longer for the next release.

One request to the developers. Please, in the new version, include some of the old features, like "Stop after current". That is one of the few reasons that I don't use Winamp 3, and have remained loyal to Winamp 2.x (and I love the fact that you added in the media library to v2.91).

Nunzio390 · 7th October 2003, 09:27

Oh yeah, don't worry. It'll be there (along with other goodies that I can't really mention)

Not too much longer. Next month dude... next month

Remember... patients is a virtue, so just hang in there.
errr.. no. My bad. Patients are something doctors and dentists have.

Prorok · 7th October 2003, 21:38

Thats 1 Month to get some decent icons made! ones that say mp3 and divx in them!

kiilu · 8th October 2003, 07:56

should we say 'hooray!!' or 'really??' ??

cousinit99 · 8th October 2003, 11:44

So, the officical name has been established as "Winamp 5"?

I, personally, wouldn't mind something a little more creative. Not that I mind the name "Winamp 5".

Winamp 5 = Winamp 2+3. Har har...

Oh ya, Winamp is dope.

graigsmith · 9th October 2003, 06:38

please use the winamp 3 icons for winamp 5.. they look so much better in win xp

cousinit99 · 9th October 2003, 08:37

Quote:

Originally posted by Compumyst
One request to the developers. Please, in the new version, include some of the old features, like "Stop after current".

Quote:

Later posted by Nunzio390
Oh yeah, don't worry. It'll be there (along with other goodies that I can't really mention)

Can anyone say crossfading?

.

will · 9th October 2003, 09:16

Quote:

Originally posted by cousinit99
Can anyone say crossfading?

No. Sorry. Find a plugin.

mark · 9th October 2003, 17:01

&)^%£*"&^$£)"(*^£!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

ADD CROSSFADING!!!! NOW!

will · 9th October 2003, 18:13

Quote:

Originally posted by Sawg
Crossfading has been there since 2.81

holy shit, yeah.
Prefs -> Plugins -> Output -> Directsound -> Configure -> Fading

mark · 9th October 2003, 18:20

will the final version have a working crosfade button in the wa3 base skin?

will · 9th October 2003, 18:30

Quote:

Originally posted by Nobby Nobbs
will the final version have a working crosfade button in the wa3 base skin?

The winamp3 base skin is history.

Oh yes.

Nunzio390 · 9th October 2003, 20:04

Nope. You're not alone. I'm with ya on that Sawg. I still use/like Winamp3 and its default skin. Of course, Winamp5 totally rules and the WA3 Default.wal works just fine with it, as should all WA3 skins.

One more month, people. Just one more month - Winamp5!

Prorok · 9th October 2003, 21:50

thats one more month to get some decent icons going! fruityloops stylee

Nunzio390 · 9th October 2003, 21:56

Don't worry, Prorok. There will be a whole mess of icons to choose from in Winamp5, for both file icons and playlist icons.

Prorok · 9th October 2003, 22:06

so basically there will be more icons than you can shake a stick at? FL Studio 4 stylee?

amano · 9th October 2003, 22:12

I think cousinit99 was wondering if wa5 will feature a quick possibillity to turn on crossfading like wa3 did via the crossfading button.

what happens if you choose the wa3 skin in wa5 and toggle this button

[ ]nothing.
[ ]turns on crossfading.

DJ Egg · 9th October 2003, 22:59

Currently, the light comes on, but nothing happens.
I suppose they'd have to somehow make a DLL plugin version of cnv_crossfade.wac to make it work . . .

Nunzio390 · 9th October 2003, 23:31

Yeah. You're right, DJ. But the fading configuration in DirectSound output options works just fine. I'm not worried though. There's a whole month to work all these little things out before the "big" release.

Prorok...

I have no freakin idea what FL Studio 4 "stylee" is so I couldn't tell ya, dude.

amano · 10th October 2003, 10:47

tnx.
of course the settings in ds_out are sufficient.
I wonder where they are saved. Maybe the toggle would just switch the settings for peters direct sound plug in.

then there would be no need for worting the wac into WA2 style.

If they did, it would probably make ALL mods so happy for not having to tell the newbs how to turn crossfading on.

kiilu · 11th October 2003, 11:46

is winamp3 build 500 going to be released soon?

Russ · 11th October 2003, 15:28

Yes. Interpret "soon" how you will.

mfara · 12th October 2003, 13:58

You guys should have one product when it comes to Winamp and stick to it. Winamp is the best mp3 player out there, but the more you release different versions and try to support them all it becomes more confusing for people to follow along with these changes.. Just have one program.. it would probably be more productive that way too

DJ Egg · 12th October 2003, 14:40

...and call it Winamp5 (like the first post in this thread states)

will · 13th October 2003, 15:58

Hold onto your hats, kids =)

Dazog · 14th October 2003, 03:55

and your kids in hats.

Juvenall · 14th October 2003, 19:17

Quote:

Originally posted by Russ
Yes. Interpret "soon" how you will.

..or you can use the Developer's Standard Dictionary definition of "soon" -

soon
Pronunciation: (sOOn)
—adv., -er, -est.
1. A moment between now and later
2. An undetermined or fictional date and time
3. An english language device used to shut up whining users: "It will be released soon"

mark · 14th October 2003, 19:58

4. A synonym of "Probably"

Russ · 14th October 2003, 20:02

"Eventually"

UpperKEES · 14th October 2003, 20:11

From Dictionary.com:

No·vem·ber n.
Abbr. Nov.
1. The 11th month of the year in the Gregorian calendar.
2. [L. November, or Novembris (sc. mensis), the ninth month of the old Roman year, which began with March, fr. novem nine: cf. F. Novembre.] The eleventh month of the year, containing thirty days.
3. The month following October and preceding December.

UK

lonestarbacon · 14th October 2003, 22:31

Yippee! Does this mean that I will be seeing winamp5 in my Gentoo linux portage tree by the end of the year? Hehe.

How far before we linux users are granted the mercy of winamp? xmms is nice and all, but DAMN do I miss Winamp.

YtseJam · 14th October 2003, 22:36

You're not going to see Winamp5 for Linux ever, unless the dev. team miraculously ports it to Linux and remember that Winamp5 is based on Winamp2.x which is pure Win32 (unlike Winamp3 which is built on the Wasabi platform that eases greatly the porting to Linux/Mac).

Compumyst · 15th October 2003, 06:58

Quote:

Originally posted by nant
You're not going to see Winamp5 for Linux ever...

Will Winamp work with WINE? (Ok, so I'm too lazy to get Linux installed, try to figure out the mess of installing and configuring WINE, just to see WINE either nearly hang my system or error out.)

YtseJam · 15th October 2003, 07:31

Theoretically it can work via WINE, but I dunno.

shabaviz55 · 15th October 2003, 11:03

I like this idea, both winamp will mix to each other!!!
It's great. Winamp2+Winamp3=Winamp5
COOL MAN.

JJJ · 16th October 2003, 03:44

Can winamp be run from WINE in linux?

Well winamp 2.9x worked for me with a little older version of WINE released this June 2003. There was only two problems:

1. The main window was missing a border all the way around, as wide and including winamps title bar. I had to close winamp with any method other than the X on the title bar.

2. WINE makes a config file of the state of winamp the first time winamp is ran, as a result winamp always starts with them same settings, as far as I know all of winamp's parts will work.I was WINE (ing) winamp from linux on my NTFS XP partion, and I was using winamp with all the 3rd party plugins I use so I don't know if a person can install plugins very well if winamp is installed on linux. But if winamp is installed on linux then maybe the problem with the settings always being the same (as the first time ran with WINE) might not occur. You can manually erase the default WINE config for winamp to reset the defaults.

No WMA support, and Some DSP/Effects work. Media Library works great for reading from, I don't think I tried creating playlists or adding to the library from linux though. Off the top of my head I think winamp would crash when add file is tried to open. Hopefully that problem has been fixed in a newer WINE release.

I think as long as you add everything to you library it's usable. And for other files I think you can drag and drop into the playlist Editor.

I read winamp 3 might work but didn't really try it.

Hope this helps!

Memnoch · 17th October 2003, 11:02

Since WA5 was meant to be WA2 + WA3 why has the playlist editor expander gone ?
It was an excellent feature for loading many playlists without making one huge (and hard to navigate) one.
Sure there is manage playlists but that just doesnt cut it.
Could the playlist loader please be put back in the final ?>
Thanks

Gonzotek · 17th October 2003, 12:24

Quote:

Originally posted by Memnoch
Since WA5 was meant to be WA2 + WA3 why has the playlist editor expander gone ?
It was an excellent feature for loading many playlists without making one huge (and hard to navigate) one.
Sure there is manage playlists but that just doesnt cut it.
Could the playlist loader please be put back in the final ?>
Thanks

Official word is that it won't be in 5.0, but it may make it into 5.1

-=Gonzotek=-

Memnoch · 17th October 2003, 12:53

may i ask why it was removed from 5.0 in the first place ?
(since it rocks so much

7th October 2003, 09:27	#363
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9th October 2003, 22:12	#378
amano Major Dude Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: where the llamas come from! Posts: 952	I think cousinit99 was wondering if wa5 will feature a quick possibillity to turn on crossfading like wa3 did via the crossfading button. what happens if you choose the wa3 skin in wa5 and toggle this button [ ]nothing. [ ]turns on crossfading. eeeee eeeeeee eeeee eeeee eeeee 8 8 8 8 8 8 8 8 8 8 88 8eee8 8e 8 8 8eee8 8e 8 8 8 88 8 88 8 8 88 8 88 8 8 8 88 8 88 8 8 88 8 88 8 8eee8

9th October 2003, 22:59	#379
DJ Egg Techorator Winamp & Shoutcast Team Join Date: Jun 2000 Posts: 35,894	Currently, the light comes on, but nothing happens. I suppose they'd have to somehow make a DLL plugin version of cnv_crossfade.wac to make it work . . . Playlist -\|- Twitter

10th October 2003, 10:47	#381
amano Major Dude Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: where the llamas come from! Posts: 952	tnx. of course the settings in ds_out are sufficient. I wonder where they are saved. Maybe the toggle would just switch the settings for peters direct sound plug in. then there would be no need for worting the wac into WA2 style. If they did, it would probably make ALL mods so happy for not having to tell the newbs how to turn crossfading on. eeeee eeeeeee eeeee eeeee eeeee 8 8 8 8 8 8 8 8 8 8 88 8eee8 8e 8 8 8eee8 8e 8 8 8 88 8 88 8 8 88 8 88 8 8 8 88 8 88 8 8 88 8 88 8 8eee8

11th October 2003, 15:28	#383
Russ Mostly Harmless (Alumni) Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: UK Posts: 2,319	Yes. Interpret "soon" how you will. For long you live and high you fly, but only if you ride the tide, and balanced on the biggest wave you race towards an early grave. \|Musicbrainz\|Audioscrobbler\|last.fm\|

7th October 2003, 06:53	#362
Compumyst Junior Member Join Date: Oct 2003 Posts: 4	This is the first time that I've looked at these forums. Now I know why there has been no update to Winamp 3. I suddenly feel I can wait a bit longer for the next release. One request to the developers. Please, in the new version, include some of the old features, like "Stop after current". That is one of the few reasons that I don't use Winamp 3, and have remained loyal to Winamp 2.x (and I love the fact that you added in the media library to v2.91).

7th October 2003, 21:38	#364
Prorok Junior Member Join Date: Apr 2003 Posts: 39	Thats 1 Month to get some decent icons made! ones that say mp3 and divx in them!

8th October 2003, 07:56	#365
kiilu Major Dude Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Houghton Posts: 667	should we say 'hooray!!' or 'really??' ??

8th October 2003, 11:44	#366
cousinit99 Junior Member Join Date: Jul 2002 Posts: 7	So, the officical name has been established as "Winamp 5"? I, personally, wouldn't mind something a little more creative. Not that I mind the name "Winamp 5". Winamp 5 = Winamp 2+3. Har har... Oh ya, Winamp is dope.

9th October 2003, 06:38	#367
graigsmith Member Join Date: Aug 2002 Posts: 72	please use the winamp 3 icons for winamp 5.. they look so much better in win xp

9th October 2003, 17:01	#370
mark Forum King Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Norn Ir'nd, leek... Posts: 6,287	&)^%£"&^$£)"(^£!!!!!!!!!!!!!! ADD CROSSFADING!!!! NOW!

9th October 2003, 18:20	#372
mark Forum King Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Norn Ir'nd, leek... Posts: 6,287	will the final version have a working crosfade button in the wa3 base skin?

9th October 2003, 20:04	#374
Nunzio390 Nugatory Aluminator Look it up Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Tharsis Ridge (Martian lowlands) Posts: 8,588	Nope. You're not alone. I'm with ya on that Sawg. I still use/like Winamp3 and its default skin. Of course, Winamp5 totally rules and the WA3 Default.wal works just fine with it, as should all WA3 skins. One more month, people. Just one more month - Winamp5!

9th October 2003, 21:50	#375
Prorok Junior Member Join Date: Apr 2003 Posts: 39	thats one more month to get some decent icons going! fruityloops stylee

9th October 2003, 21:56	#376
Nunzio390 Nugatory Aluminator Look it up Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Tharsis Ridge (Martian lowlands) Posts: 8,588	Don't worry, Prorok. There will be a whole mess of icons to choose from in Winamp5, for both file icons and playlist icons.

9th October 2003, 22:06	#377
Prorok Junior Member Join Date: Apr 2003 Posts: 39	so basically there will be more icons than you can shake a stick at? FL Studio 4 stylee?

9th October 2003, 23:31	#380
Nunzio390 Nugatory Aluminator Look it up Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Tharsis Ridge (Martian lowlands) Posts: 8,588	Yeah. You're right, DJ. But the fading configuration in DirectSound output options works just fine. I'm not worried though. There's a whole month to work all these little things out before the "big" release. Prorok... I have no freakin idea what FL Studio 4 "stylee" is so I couldn't tell ya, dude.

11th October 2003, 11:46	#382
kiilu Major Dude Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Houghton Posts: 667	is winamp3 build 500 going to be released soon?

12th October 2003, 13:58	#384
mfara Junior Member Join Date: Oct 2003 Posts: 1	If you ask me You guys should have one product when it comes to Winamp and stick to it. Winamp is the best mp3 player out there, but the more you release different versions and try to support them all it becomes more confusing for people to follow along with these changes.. Just have one program.. it would probably be more productive that way too

12th October 2003, 14:40	#385
DJ Egg Techorator Winamp & Shoutcast Team Join Date: Jun 2000 Posts: 35,894	...and call it Winamp5 (like the first post in this thread states) Playlist -\|- Twitter

13th October 2003, 15:58	#386
will Nullsoft Newbie (Moderator) Join Date: Mar 2001 Location: Sheffield, England Posts: 5,569	Hold onto your hats, kids =) DO NOT PM ME WITH TECH SUPPORT QUESTIONS

14th October 2003, 03:55	#387
Dazog Moderator Alumni Join Date: Jun 2002 Posts: 418	and your kids in hats.

14th October 2003, 19:58	#389
mark Forum King Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Norn Ir'nd, leek... Posts: 6,287	4. A synonym of "Probably"

14th October 2003, 20:02	#390
Russ Mostly Harmless (Alumni) Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: UK Posts: 2,319	"Eventually" For long you live and high you fly, but only if you ride the tide, and balanced on the biggest wave you race towards an early grave. \|Musicbrainz\|Audioscrobbler\|last.fm\|

14th October 2003, 20:11	#391
UpperKEES Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: the Netherlands Status: hyperactive Posts: yes Posts: 477	From Dictionary.com: No·vem·ber n. Abbr. Nov. 1. The 11th month of the year in the Gregorian calendar. 2. [L. November, or Novembris (sc. mensis), the ninth month of the old Roman year, which began with March, fr. novem nine: cf. F. Novembre.] The eleventh month of the year, containing thirty days. 3. The month following October and preceding December. UK

14th October 2003, 22:31	#392
lonestarbacon Junior Member Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Houghton, MI Posts: 1	Yippee! Does this mean that I will be seeing winamp5 in my Gentoo linux portage tree by the end of the year? Hehe. How far before we linux users are granted the mercy of winamp? xmms is nice and all, but DAMN do I miss Winamp.

14th October 2003, 22:36	#393
YtseJam Forum King Join Date: Dec 2000 Location: Israel Posts: 2,398	You're not going to see Winamp5 for Linux ever, unless the dev. team miraculously ports it to Linux and remember that Winamp5 is based on Winamp2.x which is pure Win32 (unlike Winamp3 which is built on the Wasabi platform that eases greatly the porting to Linux/Mac).

15th October 2003, 07:31	#395
YtseJam Forum King Join Date: Dec 2000 Location: Israel Posts: 2,398	Theoretically it can work via WINE, but I dunno.

15th October 2003, 11:03	#396
shabaviz55 Banned Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Arak, Iran Posts: 639	I like this idea, both winamp will mix to each other!!! It's great. Winamp2+Winamp3=Winamp5 COOL MAN.

16th October 2003, 03:44	#397
JJJ Junior Member Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Wisconsin Posts: 3	Can winamp be run from WINE in linux? Well winamp 2.9x worked for me with a little older version of WINE released this June 2003. There was only two problems: 1. The main window was missing a border all the way around, as wide and including winamps title bar. I had to close winamp with any method other than the X on the title bar. 2. WINE makes a config file of the state of winamp the first time winamp is ran, as a result winamp always starts with them same settings, as far as I know all of winamp's parts will work.I was WINE (ing) winamp from linux on my NTFS XP partion, and I was using winamp with all the 3rd party plugins I use so I don't know if a person can install plugins very well if winamp is installed on linux. But if winamp is installed on linux then maybe the problem with the settings always being the same (as the first time ran with WINE) might not occur. You can manually erase the default WINE config for winamp to reset the defaults. No WMA support, and Some DSP/Effects work. Media Library works great for reading from, I don't think I tried creating playlists or adding to the library from linux though. Off the top of my head I think winamp would crash when add file is tried to open. Hopefully that problem has been fixed in a newer WINE release. I think as long as you add everything to you library it's usable. And for other files I think you can drag and drop into the playlist Editor. I read winamp 3 might work but didn't really try it. Hope this helps!

17th October 2003, 11:02	#398
Memnoch Junior Member Join Date: Aug 2003 Posts: 5	Winamp 5 Beta Suggestion Since WA5 was meant to be WA2 + WA3 why has the playlist editor expander gone ? It was an excellent feature for loading many playlists without making one huge (and hard to navigate) one. Sure there is manage playlists but that just doesnt cut it. Could the playlist loader please be put back in the final ?> Thanks

17th October 2003, 12:53	#400
Memnoch Junior Member Join Date: Aug 2003 Posts: 5	may i ask why it was removed from 5.0 in the first place ? (since it rocks so much

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