17th October 2003, 10:42
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is it going to be included in the future?
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17th October 2003, 12:01
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It's the MP3 encoders that cost not the ogg ones.
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17th October 2003, 12:22
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LOL,I am waiting for the final version.
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17th October 2003, 13:48
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There are programs out there that rip audio CD tracks to vorbis (not ogg, ogg is a category of different audio and video formats like FLAC and Speex under the umbrella of Xiph.org), and for free too.
Also, if you use secure ripping in EAC or cdparanoia in CDex, you get excellent rips. |
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17th October 2003, 15:44
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i intend to buy the pro version, and contine use of nero and cdex. such is my dedication to winamp.
but only if its under £10....  I'm not that gullible. (is the beta pro?)
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17th October 2003, 16:30
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Correct me if I'm wrong but isn't Vorbis the encoder and Ogg the decoder? Hmm alright I'll just correct myself:
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libogg source 1.0 libvorbis source 1.0 vorbis-tools source 1.0 shouldn't this all be enough to make an ogg vorbis encoder? hmm? |
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17th October 2003, 16:42
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THERE ALREADY IS A VORBIS ENCODER
*ahem* AOL didn't like the legalities about it, so it hasn't been released yet, although beta testers have a copy. DO NOT PM ME WITH TECH SUPPORT QUESTIONS |
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17th October 2003, 16:53
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as you asked so nicely, oni
unzip to winamp\plugins\ THIS IS NOT SUPPORTED BY NULLSOFT, AOL OR ME AND SHOULD BE USED BY NOBODY! http://www.harrison-fisher.co.uk/will/enc_vorbis.zip DO NOT PM ME WITH TECH SUPPORT QUESTIONS |
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17th October 2003, 17:21
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I probberbly will buy the pro version.....
Nullsoft need that well deserved booze money. j/k 
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17th October 2003, 17:50
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17th October 2003, 19:00
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Winamp can never become cost, anyway, because it would die. Think about it: When's the last time you paid for a web browser? Maybe you bought Opera - but Opera has a small fraction of the market and has many features no one else has. Who has most of it? Microsoft.
Because? It's 'free'. No, I wouldn't buy the Pro version because I am not intrested in anything that doesn't directly impact the listening process. Video support? Whatever. Ripping? Don't care. Everything else I don't feel like listing? Waste of time. Sure, they'd be nice, and I'd use them in a pinch, but 99.95% of the time, I'd use a seperate, better program. I like Winamp for it's: Audio file support (Oggs Rule!), simple playlist, simple controls, being unobtrusive, and all the customization options (task list/system tray, etc). There's really nothing *special* about Winamp other than the fact that it's perfect. 
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17th October 2003, 21:06
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i cracked opera, does that count?
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17th October 2003, 21:12
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I probably won't use the ripping/burning, although I might buy it...
powered by C₈H₁₀N₄O₂ |
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17th October 2003, 22:03
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for the ripping speeds I'll just continue using my audiograbber. I'm not a big desire in media players and such.
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17th October 2003, 22:08
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bad will :P
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17th October 2003, 22:09
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haha in what way may I ask? I will find what works best for me and stick to it while minimizing costs.
btw I won't get a crack from winamp pro! |
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17th October 2003, 22:45
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If the majority of the money goes to Nullsoft and not AOL, I'll buy a licence for Winamp Pro. Both Winamp and the forums have given me a lot over the last few years, I feel I should give something back.
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18th October 2003, 15:35
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So, its AOL that keeping Nullsoft for implementing a FREE and FULLY LEGAL decoder tool?
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18th October 2003, 15:43
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Excuse me if I'm wrong but purchasing the pro version will not mean any money goes to Nullsoft. Nullsoft will create a list of subscriptions and will just give the money straight to whoever they pay for the lisence. There should be other ways of giving money to nullsoft because at the moment nullsoft is just a distributer of the MP3 lisence which they're charged for anyway. If you see what I mean. It doesn't help Nullsoft at all to do this.
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18th October 2003, 15:44
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What about pronounciation of Nunzio392?
I love this name so much. |
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18th October 2003, 15:45
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18th October 2003, 15:48
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If it's GPL they might be worried that they'd have to make winamp open source or something. Even though that's not the general understanding of the GPL, it could be easily seen that way to a jumpy AOL exec.
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18th October 2003, 16:57
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18th October 2003, 17:01
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18th October 2003, 17:02
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 ) attached with the code. the execs may have worried this would interfere with their own licensing etc. the vorbis tools are GPL (in general), and their libraries and SDKs come under their own license.
   
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18th October 2003, 17:35
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well, i'm almost out of the loop of my own thread since I was gone all day anyway, but oh well.
a) I wasn't bitching about having to pay, i've read sawgs FAQ, and knew that you wern't losing any featuers (as of yet) just speed. b) The other thing that bugged me was the fact that winamp has been "shareware" before, but in the end, turs free. So also, what about those of us who woudl pay, but don't want to find out in 6 months that the full version is free for everyone now, and we paid for no reason. Of course, the previosu times were befoer nullsoft was bought by aol, but still. c)...um....i forget. Anyways, I wasn't bitching about having to pay, I'll just use the free version. I have other programs which are free and do the burning/ripping and whatnot which I am hapy with. I was only trying to say, I don't think a pay version will work out. Then again, there are millions of users, and only about 1% of them are represented here on the forums, so who knows.
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18th October 2003, 17:39
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it was included in some of the earlier alphas, so they did want to include it (nullsoft <3 ogg), but thompson may have been spreading FUD about ogg around the AOL legal dept. It really is out of the NS hands. If you had any idea how hard it is to get stuff OK'd by AOL you'd understand. This is part of the reason for the AAC/ID3/MP4 debacle going on currently. DO NOT PM ME WITH TECH SUPPORT QUESTIONS |
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18th October 2003, 17:54
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WHY!!! WHY Nullsoft... Do not be wooed buy the will of your Corporate MASTERS! (AOL TimeWarner) Make foreigners pay not us.. im sure that can be arrainged.... winamp is good, .. . because its free.. ABSOLUTELY FREE!!! 100% no charge, to have the fame and recagnition you all deserve.
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18th October 2003, 18:21
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Yeah I'm sure all us foreigners will love that segregation!
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18th October 2003, 19:06
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you're right, dlinkwit, you are a fucking ass, as i proved in our previous encounters.
go to hell and die. |
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19th October 2003, 00:17
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I have no intention of ever paying for anything that can be got free, even sex. Oh, wait...
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19th October 2003, 00:56
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19th October 2003, 01:08
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hellooooo, iTunes...
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19th October 2003, 01:10
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I'll pay for the pro version, even though I probably will not use any of the features, just because I think it's only fair to kick a little money their way. and the dude who wants to only charge foreigners, he must be on some pretty powerful drugs.
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19th October 2003, 01:14
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19th October 2003, 01:16
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I'm just wondering.. since this OGG encoder is a plugin, is there anything to stop someone else writing a free MP3 encoding plugin for Winamp?
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19th October 2003, 01:55
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19th October 2003, 02:56
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my internet is fast too...but i would rather download 4mb uberness....then 19mb crapness
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19th October 2003, 04:16
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....what else should I expect from this forum? ...
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19th October 2003, 04:26
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