Winamp 5.0rc8 Discussion - Page 8

evil_oj · 26th November 2003, 15:40

Quote:

Originally posted by evil_oj
So Winamp 5 Pro is out on the Dec. 4th? ie. Winamp 5 Final == Winamp 5 Pro ?

Oops! What I meant was, Winamp 5 Final's Release Day == Winamp 5 Pro's Release Day?

Or will a crippled version still appear for a while before Pro?

WhiteRayven · 26th November 2003, 15:48

I believe that expression is true

bnuk013 · 26th November 2003, 17:24

been playing around with the new release for the last hour or so.. holy crap this is so sweet!

finally a library that can handle all my songs with getting retarded!!!! (7K+ mp3s) and it can even load all of them in the playlist easily, that used take 20+ minutes. And there is soo much flexibility too in the preferances, i just keep finding features that are just so damn cool.
Does anyone know if they ever plan to add a cleaner shoutcast support? like instead of just having one line with station name, station info, song info and other random info all in one line, also some way to not have a seperate line for each mirror. they could almost have a seperate litle window that comes up instead of the playlist editor.

nloki · 26th November 2003, 18:34

Quote:

Originally posted by bnuk013
been playing around with the new release for the last hour or so.. holy crap this is so sweet! finally a library that can handle all my songs with getting retarded!!!! (7K+ mp3s) and it can even load all of them in the playlist easily, that used take 20+ minutes. And there is soo much flexibility too in the preferances, i just keep finding features that are just so damn cool.
Does anyone know if they ever plan to add a cleaner shoutcast support? like instead of just having one line with station name, station info, song info and other random info all in one line, also some way to not have a seperate line for each mirror. they could almost have a seperate litle window that comes up instead of the playlist editor.

i think you meant to say without , hopefully that is what you meant...

as for shoutcast support i'm thinking plugin, i don't really use shoutcast though so don't ask me...

TobyG · 26th November 2003, 22:28

@Reaper: Yeah, I've got iTouch installed, but they've apparently released a new version since I posted that. Hopefully that'll fix it.

[offtopic]Small world, eh cher?[/offtopic]

@Lunas: Thanks, hopefully the latest will work here too.

TobyG · 26th November 2003, 22:59

OK, after installing the latest iTouch and an updated players.ini file which they say should work, it still does nothing. The other odd thing is that the old style key combinations don't work either (i.e. X, C, V, B). Could this be related to the new Global hotkeys plugin in RC8?

iron2000 · 27th November 2003, 04:14

Found out that when WMP comes up the WA hotkeys don't function anymore until WMP is closed.

In the past with another plugin I could pause both players at the same time. My sister likes to watch movies on WMP and when she press the pause key Winamp comes up with music, pause again movie continues music pause.

Lunas · 27th November 2003, 06:57

the main player part of winamp still dissappears sometimes most likely in a transition from a version 3 skin to a version 2 skin probably occuring while winamp is in the background

chros · 27th November 2003, 08:44

It's an old (2001) plugin but it's one of the best.
It works with the Classic skins fine, but don't with the Modern skins ...

So: is there any workaround to solve this ? Or somebody have to rewrite this fine proggy ???

Thanx

DJ Egg · 27th November 2003, 10:11

Oh I'm sure guerillasoft will update mp3cue when 5.0 Final and SDK are released.

Lion King · 27th November 2003, 12:41

i doubt that. there weren't any updates for encspot and mp3cue for more than a year. www.guerillasoft.com doesn't exist anymore either.

DJ Egg · 27th November 2003, 14:04

Yeah, well, ya never know, maybe dee will come out of retirement?

Neofite · 27th November 2003, 18:28

Hi all,

Winamp noob here. Is there a way to play Real Audio stuff with winamp?? I have having RA on my computer. Also can you DL/record streaming audio with WInamp??

I just got 5rc8 and am loving it. no bugs that i have seen so far.

Reaper · 27th November 2003, 18:46

Quote:

Originally posted by Neofite
Is there a way to play Real Audio stuff with winamp?? I have having RA on my computer.

TSGH -> Useful Links

A list of available Real Audio/Video plugins
http://forums.winamp.com/showthread.php?threadid=66629

Make note that you're still going to need Real or atleast the codecs installed.

Quote:

Also can you DL/record streaming audio with WInamp??

Read the forum rules, it's illegal and will not be discussed here:

Quote:

StreamRippers
- Due to legal liability issues, any information or references to information about streamripping applications are strictly prohibited within these forums. Any threads/posts containing such information will be edited/deleted without warning..

WhiteRayven · 27th November 2003, 18:46

Neofite, read this entire thread. I know that somewhere in here there is a link for a winamp plugin., Also, be sure to read all the stickies that say "READ THIS FIRST", they generally answer all those questions.
Also read the FAQ's, I am pretty sure thats one of them.
[edit]
I don't mean to be harsh. Try Searching the forums

AtiUser · 27th November 2003, 19:13

Quote:

Originally posted by TobyG
OK, after installing the latest iTouch and an updated players.ini file which they say should work, it still does nothing. The other odd thing is that the old style key combinations don't work either (i.e. X, C, V, B). Could this be related to the new Global hotkeys plugin in RC8?

The media keys of my Logitech Internet Navigator (iTouch 2.20) works fine with Classic Skins.

With Modern Skins the buttons "Play" etc
don't work, when Winamp is on top.

When I minimize Winamp to the Systray, then the buttons also work with modern skins.

I hope Logitech will fix this issue after WA 5 Final release.

TobyG · 28th November 2003, 02:35

Quote:

Originally posted by AtiUser
The media keys of my Logitech Internet Navigator (iTouch 2.20) works fine with Classic Skins.

With Modern Skins the buttons "Play" etc
don't work, when Winamp is on top.

When I minimize Winamp to the Systray, then the buttons also work with modern skins.

I hope Logitech will fix this issue after WA 5 Final release.

Hmmm...I'm using a classic skin with iTouch 2.20. No dice. Worked fine on every prior release to RC8. Guess I'll wait and see what happens with Final.

chros · 28th November 2003, 07:58

Quote:

Originally posted by DJ Egg
Yeah, well, ya never know, maybe dee will come out of retirement?

I havet to say that I must agree with Lion King ...
Yesterday I have tried to send an email to dee's address (which was on the mentioned webpage):
<dee@guerillasoft.com>:
Sorry, I couldn't find a mail exchanger or IP address.

BUT!!!

There's a guy called Brian Fernandes who have wrote an mp3cue proggy for xmms (on Linux)... He wrote on his homepage that dee had helped him very much ... And he almost have finished his mediaCue plugin for Winamp3 !!! And that time I have wrote a letter to him that winamp5 is on the corner ... Perhaps, if You guys write him an email too, maybe he will backport his plugin to winamp5 !!!

his webpage:
http://brianvictor.***********/mp3cue.htm

Ohhhh !!! I have just found this mediacue page too:
http://brianvictor.***********/mediacue.htm
It's quite impressive ! I have just downloaded so I didn't know if it works with winamp5 ...
And it can split mp3 files too !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Greetings

DJ Egg · 28th November 2003, 11:50

No, it's a Winamp3 WAC component, not a Winamp (2.x / 5.x) plugin.
Alas, Winamp doesn't support WAC components.
I've also e-mailed Brian, and have explained the current situation.
Hopefully, he won't be too depressed (after finding out that Winamp3 and WAC components will no longer be supported).

swhite · 28th November 2003, 17:46

So why is WASABI considered dead? What was wrong with the platform, and why is Winamp5 built upon Winamp2?

I do love Winamp5, it's the best Winamp yet, but I'm just curious as to why it's based on Winamp2 instead of 3....

Shayne

WhiteRayven · 28th November 2003, 17:49

Wasabi isn't dead. I think its just on the back burner for a bit. It will still be developed, but not right now.

Some one please correct me if I am wrong.

sanosuke · 28th November 2003, 17:55

winamp3 is dead, wasabi is not...

Plague · 28th November 2003, 18:21

winamp3 is dead, wasabi player is not dead and wasabi is far from dead as it's beeing developed and used in both winamp 5 and wasabi player..

-Plague

WhiteRayven · 28th November 2003, 18:25

Where is/can I get the wasabi player?

unfnknblvbl · 28th November 2003, 18:27

because people just didn't like Winamp3 as much as WA2, I'm guessing - it didn't do anything better or more than WA2, and yet performance was pretty shocking, while WA2 was useable on an old P90... the basic appeal of Winamp is that it is/was a fast and light music player that's free of bloat and doesn't bog your system down. WA3 used up a lot more resources than WA2 for no discernable reason.

it's 6am and I'm eitehr repeating myself or not making sense, so I'm going to bed

Plague · 28th November 2003, 20:13

Quote:

Originally posted by WhiteRayven
Where is/can I get the wasabi player?

Here
This was the very first build called Wasabi Player, so do not expect much, it's a very much work-in-progress application.
As you can see it's still build 499 (which was a winamp3 build) only it's 499c now, so don't expect much more than is offered in Winamp3 499.

The current state of Wasabi Player is that it's still beeing transformed from Winamp3 to Wasabi Player, stuff are beeing renamed and so on...

-Plague

roca.boi · 28th November 2003, 20:53

Hey! Im a newbie, to the forum. I used WA2, when i saw it on AO Hell. I HATED IT! I use WMP forever, til WA5 came out! I F-ING LOVE IT! I use 3 wfor a while, but, since my fiels where .wma, it never played right. OMFG! THe ML? Is soooo cool! The skinning, and Notifations? AH, i love WA5 im never going mack To Winshit Meda Plaayer! WA5 forever.

BTW, no bugs as far as teh features i use.

Ok, i was typing fast sorry!

forever!

WhiteRayven · 28th November 2003, 21:14

OK, Does any one out there have one of the new mice with a tilt Wheel in it?

Cause I noticed that in the ML If I click on the horizontal scroll bar the tilt wheel will scroll a bit and then stop. then I have to click on it again.

Has any on else seen this?

I know where bug reports go... But I know that the tilt wheel support is not yet(as in I hope it is soon) a feature of winamp.

Firebrand · 30th November 2003, 00:48

So the latest release has a good global hotkeys plugin? That's great to hear. I can see how that would be quite useful.

Do Winamp 5's plugins work with Winamp 2? I wouldn't mind using that plugin while I wait for Winamp 5's final release. Or is there a better Winamp 2 plugin out there that does that?

I've been skeptic about Winamp 5 because I'm on a low resource machine right now, but it sounds like it's coming along nicely and not as "heavy" as Winamp 3 is. Keep it up.

30th November 2003, 00:56

If you don't install Modern skin support and the ML, it IS Winamp 2. After final is released there should be no reason to keep Winamp 2.X around. In fact it will not be supported. Try downloading Winamp 5.0 RC8 Lite.

To answer your question though, the plug-in used in Winamp 5.0 probably wouldn't work with older 2.X versions since it makes use of recent API additions. Maybe in the 2.9X series, defiantly not before. But you should upgrade to 5.0 anyways.

Firebrand · 30th November 2003, 02:17

You're right. I just downloaded and installed Winamp 5 RC8 (full install) and it uses just about the same amount of memory as Winamp 2.9x so long as it's set to the classic skin.

Since my Winamp 2 plugins still work with it and I haven't run into any problems (yet), I'll probably just go ahead and switch for good now.

zer0_06 · 30th November 2003, 07:28

what would be cool is if they mead it abel to play applemusic store songs

Reaper · 30th November 2003, 07:55

Quote:

Originally posted by zer0_06
what would be cool is if they mead it abel to play applemusic store songs

Playing back iTunes Music Store AAC files in Winamp

BesigedB · 30th November 2003, 09:09

Would it be possible to add Winamp to the windows "Set Programs Access & Defaults" menu under Media Players?

Dazog · 30th November 2003, 19:47

Quote:

Originally posted by BesigedB
Would it be possible to add Winamp to the windows "Set Programs Access & Defaults" menu under Media Players?

It is, but not high on the priority list, getting it bug free is more important than windows seeing it as a valid media player

screw what ms thinks

amano · 30th November 2003, 22:48

*message removed*

EDIT: whoops! , wrong thread (again)

sorry for spamming

chros · 1st December 2003, 07:40

Quote:

Originally posted by DJ Egg
No, it's a Winamp3 WAC component, not a Winamp (2.x / 5.x) plugin.
Alas, Winamp doesn't support WAC components.
I've also e-mailed Brian, and have explained the current situation.
Hopefully, he won't be too depressed (after finding out that Winamp3 and WAC components will no longer be supported).

Cool!
At least, we are two of us who needs this plugin ...

DJ Egg · 1st December 2003, 07:44

Looks like my e-mail worked

http://forums.winamp.com/showthread....63#post1181263

Wish · 1st December 2003, 09:26

Latest internal RC still hasn't fixed the minimize, close, restart Winamp bug. Is anyone actually gonna do something about this?

DJ Egg · 1st December 2003, 09:34

@ Wish
http://forums.winamp.com/showthread.php?threadid=157934

26th November 2003, 15:48	#282
WhiteRayven Major Dude Join Date: Aug 2003 Posts: 682	I believe that expression is true Why make something idiot proof?? Someone will only make a better idiot!

26th November 2003, 17:24	#283
bnuk013 Junior Member Join Date: Nov 2003 Posts: 8	w5!!! been playing around with the new release for the last hour or so.. holy crap this is so sweet! finally a library that can handle all my songs with getting retarded!!!! (7K+ mp3s) and it can even load all of them in the playlist easily, that used take 20+ minutes. And there is soo much flexibility too in the preferances, i just keep finding features that are just so damn cool. Does anyone know if they ever plan to add a cleaner shoutcast support? like instead of just having one line with station name, station info, song info and other random info all in one line, also some way to not have a seperate line for each mirror. they could almost have a seperate litle window that comes up instead of the playlist editor.

27th November 2003, 04:14	#287
iron2000 Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Singapore Posts: 391	Found out that when WMP comes up the WA hotkeys don't function anymore until WMP is closed. In the past with another plugin I could pause both players at the same time. My sister likes to watch movies on WMP and when she press the pause key Winamp comes up with music, pause again movie continues music pause. Thanx

27th November 2003, 08:44	#289
chros Member Join Date: Nov 2003 Posts: 77	MP3cue 0.94 plugin & Winamp 5 It's an old (2001) plugin but it's one of the best. It works with the Classic skins fine, but don't with the Modern skins ... So: is there any workaround to solve this ? Or somebody have to rewrite this fine proggy ??? Thanx

27th November 2003, 10:11	#290
DJ Egg Techorator Winamp & Shoutcast Team Join Date: Jun 2000 Posts: 35,894	Oh I'm sure guerillasoft will update mp3cue when 5.0 Final and SDK are released. Playlist -\|- Twitter

26th November 2003, 22:28	#285
TobyG Junior Member Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Prairieville, Louisiana Posts: 23	@Reaper: Yeah, I've got iTouch installed, but they've apparently released a new version since I posted that. Hopefully that'll fix it. [offtopic]Small world, eh cher?[/offtopic] @Lunas: Thanks, hopefully the latest will work here too.

26th November 2003, 22:59	#286
TobyG Junior Member Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Prairieville, Louisiana Posts: 23	OK, after installing the latest iTouch and an updated players.ini file which they say should work, it still does nothing. The other odd thing is that the old style key combinations don't work either (i.e. X, C, V, B). Could this be related to the new Global hotkeys plugin in RC8?

27th November 2003, 06:57	#288
Lunas Junior Member Join Date: Oct 2001 Posts: 31	the main player part of winamp still dissappears sometimes most likely in a transition from a version 3 skin to a version 2 skin probably occuring while winamp is in the background

27th November 2003, 12:41	#291
Lion King Major Dude Join Date: Jan 2001 Posts: 1,668	i doubt that. there weren't any updates for encspot and mp3cue for more than a year. www.guerillasoft.com doesn't exist anymore either.

27th November 2003, 14:04	#292
DJ Egg Techorator Winamp & Shoutcast Team Join Date: Jun 2000 Posts: 35,894	Yeah, well, ya never know, maybe dee will come out of retirement? Playlist -\|- Twitter

27th November 2003, 18:28	#293
Neofite Junior Member Join Date: Jun 2003 Posts: 3	Hi all, Winamp noob here. Is there a way to play Real Audio stuff with winamp?? I have having RA on my computer. Also can you DL/record streaming audio with WInamp?? I just got 5rc8 and am loving it. no bugs that i have seen so far.

27th November 2003, 18:46	#295
WhiteRayven Major Dude Join Date: Aug 2003 Posts: 682	Neofite, read this entire thread. I know that somewhere in here there is a link for a winamp plugin., Also, be sure to read all the stickies that say "READ THIS FIRST", they generally answer all those questions. Also read the FAQ's, I am pretty sure thats one of them. [edit] I don't mean to be harsh. Try Searching the forums Why make something idiot proof?? Someone will only make a better idiot!

28th November 2003, 11:50	#299
DJ Egg Techorator Winamp & Shoutcast Team Join Date: Jun 2000 Posts: 35,894	No, it's a Winamp3 WAC component, not a Winamp (2.x / 5.x) plugin. Alas, Winamp doesn't support WAC components. I've also e-mailed Brian, and have explained the current situation. Hopefully, he won't be too depressed (after finding out that Winamp3 and WAC components will no longer be supported). Playlist -\|- Twitter

28th November 2003, 17:46	#300
swhite Member Join Date: Jan 2001 Posts: 84	So why is WASABI considered dead? What was wrong with the platform, and why is Winamp5 built upon Winamp2? I do love Winamp5, it's the best Winamp yet, but I'm just curious as to why it's based on Winamp2 instead of 3.... Shayne

28th November 2003, 17:49	#301
WhiteRayven Major Dude Join Date: Aug 2003 Posts: 682	Wasabi isn't dead. I think its just on the back burner for a bit. It will still be developed, but not right now. Some one please correct me if I am wrong. Why make something idiot proof?? Someone will only make a better idiot!

28th November 2003, 17:55	#302
sanosuke Major Dude Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Singapore Posts: 1,891	winamp3 is dead, wasabi is not... Big-assed signature deleted by errr.. whats his name again??

28th November 2003, 18:21	#303
Plague f(caffeine){ return wasabi; } (Forum King) Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Sweden Posts: 3,984	winamp3 is dead, wasabi player is not dead and wasabi is far from dead as it's beeing developed and used in both winamp 5 and wasabi player.. -Plague Winique work-in-progress (download) \| Stargate:Winamp - SG1 Edition \| D-Reliction \| wasabi.player skin (plague-edit) Winamp3_Default skin (plague fixes) \| Opal Redemption \| X-Slant \| wa2skin.wac

28th November 2003, 18:25	#304
WhiteRayven Major Dude Join Date: Aug 2003 Posts: 682	Where is/can I get the wasabi player? Why make something idiot proof?? Someone will only make a better idiot!

28th November 2003, 18:27	#305
unfnknblvbl Member Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: Adelaide, Australia Posts: 69	because people just didn't like Winamp3 as much as WA2, I'm guessing - it didn't do anything better or more than WA2, and yet performance was pretty shocking, while WA2 was useable on an old P90... the basic appeal of Winamp is that it is/was a fast and light music player that's free of bloat and doesn't bog your system down. WA3 used up a lot more resources than WA2 for no discernable reason. it's 6am and I'm eitehr repeating myself or not making sense, so I'm going to bed

28th November 2003, 20:53	#307
roca.boi Junior Member Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Tallahassee, FL Posts: 1	Hey! Im a newbie, to the forum. I used WA2, when i saw it on AO Hell. I HATED IT! I use WMP forever, til WA5 came out! I F-ING LOVE IT! I use 3 wfor a while, but, since my fiels where .wma, it never played right. OMFG! THe ML? Is soooo cool! The skinning, and Notifations? AH, i love WA5 im never going mack To Winshit Meda Plaayer! WA5 forever. BTW, no bugs as far as teh features i use. Ok, i was typing fast sorry! forever!

28th November 2003, 21:14	#308
WhiteRayven Major Dude Join Date: Aug 2003 Posts: 682	OK, Does any one out there have one of the new mice with a tilt Wheel in it? Cause I noticed that in the ML If I click on the horizontal scroll bar the tilt wheel will scroll a bit and then stop. then I have to click on it again. Has any on else seen this? I know where bug reports go... But I know that the tilt wheel support is not yet(as in I hope it is soon) a feature of winamp. Why make something idiot proof?? Someone will only make a better idiot!

30th November 2003, 00:48	#309
Firebrand Member Join Date: Dec 2000 Posts: 64	So the latest release has a good global hotkeys plugin? That's great to hear. I can see how that would be quite useful. Do Winamp 5's plugins work with Winamp 2? I wouldn't mind using that plugin while I wait for Winamp 5's final release. Or is there a better Winamp 2 plugin out there that does that? I've been skeptic about Winamp 5 because I'm on a low resource machine right now, but it sounds like it's coming along nicely and not as "heavy" as Winamp 3 is. Keep it up.

30th November 2003, 00:56	#310
Sawg Guest Posts: n/a	If you don't install Modern skin support and the ML, it IS Winamp 2. After final is released there should be no reason to keep Winamp 2.X around. In fact it will not be supported. Try downloading Winamp 5.0 RC8 Lite. To answer your question though, the plug-in used in Winamp 5.0 probably wouldn't work with older 2.X versions since it makes use of recent API additions. Maybe in the 2.9X series, defiantly not before. But you should upgrade to 5.0 anyways.

30th November 2003, 02:17	#311
Firebrand Member Join Date: Dec 2000 Posts: 64	You're right. I just downloaded and installed Winamp 5 RC8 (full install) and it uses just about the same amount of memory as Winamp 2.9x so long as it's set to the classic skin. Since my Winamp 2 plugins still work with it and I haven't run into any problems (yet), I'll probably just go ahead and switch for good now.

30th November 2003, 07:28	#312
zer0_06 Junior Member Join Date: Nov 2003 Posts: 6	what would be cool is if they mead it abel to play applemusic store songs

30th November 2003, 09:09	#314
BesigedB Junior Member Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Scotland Posts: 47	Would it be possible to add Winamp to the windows "Set Programs Access & Defaults" menu under Media Players?

30th November 2003, 22:48	#316
amano Major Dude Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: where the llamas come from! Posts: 952	message removed EDIT: whoops! , wrong thread (again) sorry for spamming eeeee eeeeeee eeeee eeeee eeeee 8 8 8 8 8 8 8 8 8 8 88 8eee8 8e 8 8 8eee8 8e 8 8 8 88 8 88 8 8 88 8 88 8 8 8 88 8 88 8 8 88 8 88 8 8eee8 Last edited by amano; 1st December 2003 at 00:20.

1st December 2003, 07:44	#318
DJ Egg Techorator Winamp & Shoutcast Team Join Date: Jun 2000 Posts: 35,894	Looks like my e-mail worked http://forums.winamp.com/showthread....63#post1181263 Playlist -\|- Twitter

1st December 2003, 09:26	#319
Wish Major Dude Join Date: Oct 2000 Posts: 702	Latest internal RC still hasn't fixed the minimize, close, restart Winamp bug. Is anyone actually gonna do something about this?

1st December 2003, 09:34	#320
DJ Egg Techorator Winamp & Shoutcast Team Join Date: Jun 2000 Posts: 35,894	@ Wish http://forums.winamp.com/showthread.php?threadid=157934 Playlist -\|- Twitter

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