Cannot connect over lan

fsd · 28th December 2003, 13:59

Hey,

Just setup shoutcast on my debian (woody) box for use as a streaming server on lan only. The lan is behind a DSL router using the 10.0.0.0 range of ip adresses (.1 being the router, 2 my desktop and 3 the debian machine), now when i am streaming successfully from my fileserver (.6) to the shoutcast stream using DSP w/ winamp full 2.91 clients can connect from the internet once port 8000 is opened, however using a dns name, or the lan ip of the shoutcast machine i am unable to connect to the server, ive double and triple checked everything, however winamp on my desktop (5.01) just sits there saying connection timed out.

I know its not my desktop machines winamp, as it can connect to my server 2003's asx stream, and to external shoutcast streams.

Does anyone know if this is a bug/config issue/know how to fix?

Thanks in advance.

fsd · 28th December 2003, 14:04

http://www.fsdtech.net:8000 = stream

FesterHead · 28th December 2003, 18:56

Does your router support local loopback?

fsd · 28th December 2003, 23:04

not sure..http://www.dlink.com.au/products/broadband/dsl504/ is what i have, but i wouldnt think it would have anything to do with it, considering its lan?

fsd · 28th December 2003, 23:13

just tried going directly through a switch and bypassing the router..same problem, communication is not the issue as i can ssh to the machine as well as use the shoutcast administrative interface via the web

FesterHead · 29th December 2003, 15:15

http://www.fsdtech.net:8000 -> Your DNAS

*********

Please confirm:
From lan machines, you can only connect/listen via a lan ip.

fsd · 29th December 2003, 15:39

where common sense prevails yes, considering im behind a router.

I cannot connect/listen to the stream from anywhere on the lan, however clients on the internet can connect and listen fine.

djmastermind · 29th December 2003, 15:50

That's due to the fact that your router most likely doesn't support local loopback. All this means is that if you're inside the LAN, you'll have to use the LAN IP to connect.

fsd · 30th December 2003, 00:33

sigh.

Djmastermind i like the fact that you are helping, however please read my posts again. I cannot connect over the lan when using a netbios address or the lan ip address...

fsd · 30th December 2003, 00:38

all i want to do is use it as a lan shoutcast server...

FesterHead · 30th December 2003, 01:03

PLease post the link(s) you're trying to use from within the lan.

djmastermind · 30th December 2003, 01:12

Quote:

Originally posted by fsd
sigh.

Djmastermind i like the fact that you are helping, however please read my posts again. I cannot connect over the lan when using a netbios address or the lan ip address...

Sorry. Sometimes I skim quickly.

fsd · 30th December 2003, 06:28

http://saturn:8000

http://saturn:8000/listen.pls

http://10.0.0.3:8000

http://10.0.0.3:8000/listen.pls

http://saturn.local.fsdtech.net:8000

http://saturn.local.fsdtech.net:8000/listen.pls

The last two being internal dns records pointing to 10.0.0.3 obviously.

DJHotIce · 30th December 2003, 06:33

are you connected to a linux server which manages your network?

fsd · 30th December 2003, 07:36

linux server which manages my network? wtf..

I have a dsl router as my gateway. i have a fileserver with mp3's uploading/streaming to a debian machine running shoutcast.

I cannot connect to the stream over lan through a standard 16 port 100mbit switch yet people on the internet can fine.

28th December 2003, 13:59	#1
fsd Junior Member Join Date: Dec 2003 Posts: 9	Cannot connect over lan Hey, Just setup shoutcast on my debian (woody) box for use as a streaming server on lan only. The lan is behind a DSL router using the 10.0.0.0 range of ip adresses (.1 being the router, 2 my desktop and 3 the debian machine), now when i am streaming successfully from my fileserver (.6) to the shoutcast stream using DSP w/ winamp full 2.91 clients can connect from the internet once port 8000 is opened, however using a dns name, or the lan ip of the shoutcast machine i am unable to connect to the server, ive double and triple checked everything, however winamp on my desktop (5.01) just sits there saying connection timed out. I know its not my desktop machines winamp, as it can connect to my server 2003's asx stream, and to external shoutcast streams. Does anyone know if this is a bug/config issue/know how to fix? Thanks in advance.

29th December 2003, 15:50	#8
djmastermind Forum King Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Houston, TX Posts: 6,813	That's due to the fact that your router most likely doesn't support local loopback. All this means is that if you're inside the LAN, you'll have to use the LAN IP to connect. -- Michael

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DJHotIce Forum Loser (Forum King) Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: That place I can't remember the name. Posts: 4,617	are you connected to a linux server which manages your network? -DJHotIce Bounce Multimedia - Professional Web Design

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28th December 2003, 14:04	#2
fsd Junior Member Join Date: Dec 2003 Posts: 9	http://www.fsdtech.net:8000 = stream

28th December 2003, 18:56	#3
FesterHead Alumni Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: Maui, Hawaii Posts: 14,108	Does your router support local loopback?

28th December 2003, 23:04	#4
fsd Junior Member Join Date: Dec 2003 Posts: 9	not sure..http://www.dlink.com.au/products/broadband/dsl504/ is what i have, but i wouldnt think it would have anything to do with it, considering its lan?

28th December 2003, 23:13	#5
fsd Junior Member Join Date: Dec 2003 Posts: 9	just tried going directly through a switch and bypassing the router..same problem, communication is not the issue as i can ssh to the machine as well as use the shoutcast administrative interface via the web

29th December 2003, 15:15	#6
FesterHead Alumni Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: Maui, Hawaii Posts: 14,108	http://www.fsdtech.net:8000 -> Your DNAS ********* Please confirm: From lan machines, you can only connect/listen via a lan ip.

29th December 2003, 15:39	#7
fsd Junior Member Join Date: Dec 2003 Posts: 9	where common sense prevails yes, considering im behind a router. I cannot connect/listen to the stream from anywhere on the lan, however clients on the internet can connect and listen fine.

30th December 2003, 00:33	#9
fsd Junior Member Join Date: Dec 2003 Posts: 9	sigh. Djmastermind i like the fact that you are helping, however please read my posts again. I cannot connect over the lan when using a netbios address or the lan ip address...

30th December 2003, 00:38	#10
fsd Junior Member Join Date: Dec 2003 Posts: 9	all i want to do is use it as a lan shoutcast server...

30th December 2003, 01:03	#11
FesterHead Alumni Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: Maui, Hawaii Posts: 14,108	PLease post the link(s) you're trying to use from within the lan.

30th December 2003, 06:28	#13
fsd Junior Member Join Date: Dec 2003 Posts: 9	http://saturn:8000 http://saturn:8000/listen.pls http://10.0.0.3:8000 http://10.0.0.3:8000/listen.pls http://saturn.local.fsdtech.net:8000 http://saturn.local.fsdtech.net:8000/listen.pls The last two being internal dns records pointing to 10.0.0.3 obviously.

30th December 2003, 07:36	#15
fsd Junior Member Join Date: Dec 2003 Posts: 9	linux server which manages my network? wtf.. I have a dsl router as my gateway. i have a fileserver with mp3's uploading/streaming to a debian machine running shoutcast. I cannot connect to the stream over lan through a standard 16 port 100mbit switch yet people on the internet can fine.