Desperate

Bends · 30th December 2003, 11:44

Hello, first of all, sorry for my bad English, but maybe someone can help me with this problem:

I'm not able to set up my own radio station using the following software:

- Winamp 2.79
- SHOUTcast DNAS v.1.8.3
- SHOUTcast DSP Plug-in v.1.8.2b
- Line Recorder Plug-in

I've read a tutorial and followed its instructions, but it doesn't work. Friends of mine have also done exactly so and their station works! I don't understand what I could be doing wrong :-(

In the SHOUTcast DNAS configuration I put the following:
MaxUser=6
Password=test
PortBase=8000
SrcIP=ANY
DestIP=ANY
Yport=80

Then I start the SHOUTcast Server Monitor.

In Winamp I set up the SHOUTcasr plug-in and press 'Connect':
Screenshot #1
Screenshot #2
Screenshot #3
Screenshot #4
Screenshot #5

After doing all this I tell a friend to press CTRL + L in Winamp and type 80.32.114.32:8000 and connect, but it fails, cos it says 'connecting' all the time.

Does anybody know where the problem is? I'd be very grateful if someone could help me.
Thank you.

FesterHead · 30th December 2003, 14:50

Any errors in the DNAS log?

If the DNAS and Winamp/DSP combo are on the same machine, then use "localhost" or "127.0.0.1" or "the lan ip of the DNAS if you're on a lan" (without the quotes) as the Address in the DSP.

If the DNAS and Winamp/DSP combo are on different machines but on the same lan, then use the lan ip of the DNAS as the Address in the DSP.

Else, use the real, world-visible ip of the DNAS as the Address in the DSP.

****************

Any reason for using the older version of the DNAS?

Please consider upgrading to eliminate possible DNAS exploitation.

Bends · 30th December 2003, 15:39

The DNAS console shows this (when already connected):

<12/30/03@17:22:24> [SHOUTcast] DNAS/win32 v1.8.3 (Aug 7 2001) starting up...
<12/30/03@17:22:24> [main] loaded config from C:\Archivos de programa\SHOUTcast\sc_serv.ini
<12/30/03@17:22:24> [main] initializing (usermax:6 portbase:8000)...
<12/30/03@17:22:24> [main] No ban file found (sc_serv.ban)
<12/30/03@17:22:24> [main] No rip file found (sc_serv.rip)
<12/30/03@17:22:24> [main] opening source socket
<12/30/03@17:22:24> [main] source thread starting
<12/30/03@17:22:24> [main] opening client socket
<12/30/03@17:22:24> [source] listening for connection on port 8001
<12/30/03@17:22:24> [main] Client Stream thread [0] starting
<12/30/03@17:22:24> [main] client main thread starting
<12/30/03@17:22:29> [source] connected from 80.32.114.32
<12/30/03@17:22:29> [source] icy-name:Bends ; icy-genre:Rock
<12/30/03@17:22:29> [source] icy-pub:1 ; icy-br:24 ; icy-url:http://www.shoutcast.com
<12/30/03@17:22:29> [source] icy-irc:#tfc.es ; icy-icq:0 ; icy-aim:N/A

... and after a few seconds:

<12/30/03@17:22:40> [yp_add] yp.shoutcast.com gave error (nak)
<12/30/03@17:22:40> [yp_add] yp.shoutcast.com gave extended error (Cannot see your station/computer (IP: 80.58.35.237:8000) from the Internet, disable Internet Sharing/NAT/firewall/ISP cache (Connection timed out))

I don't think that the two last lines are important, because they are shown on everybody's console that I know and it works with no problems.

If the DNAS and Winamp/DSP combo are on the same machine, then use "localhost" or "127.0.0.1" or "the lan ip of the DNAS if you're on a lan" (without the quotes) as the Address in the DSP.

The DNAS and Winamp/DSP combo are on the same machine.

Now my questions are:

[A]
- 1) If I use "localhost" as the 'Address' in the DSP, what 'Internet Location' is the listener supposed to enter?
- 2) If I use "127.0.0.1" as the 'Address' in the DSP, what 'Internet Location' is the listener supposed to enter?
- 3) If I use "the lan ip of the DNAS if I'm on a lan" as the 'Address' in the DSP, what 'Internet Location' is the listener supposed to enter?
- 4) If I use "the real, world-visible ip of the DNAS" as the 'Address' in the DSP, what 'Internet Location' is the listener supposed to enter?

[B]
- 1) How do I know which is my "lan ip of the DNAS if I'm on a lan", where can I look it up in Windows XP? (actually I am on a lan, but my computer is the only who counts in all this, I want the INTERNET users to listen to my radio station, not the lan users)
- Which IP do you mean with "the real, world-visible ip of the DNAS", maybe the one that appears in 'ipconfig' (Windows): 80.32.114.32 ?

Actually there is no special reason for using the older version of the DNAS, it's only because it is the one I downloaded from a tutorial's website. But I will keep trying with the latest version.

Thank you.

FesterHead · 30th December 2003, 17:28

A.
Here's link bot.

DNAS link: http://yourDNASip:yourDNASport
Listen link: http://yourDNASip:yourDNASport/listen.pls

Replace yourDNASip with the ip of the DNAS (SHOUTcast server) and yourDNASport with the DNAS port (default is 8000)

Example:
If your DNAS ip is 123.345.567.789 and your DNAS portBase is 2112, then your links would be:
DNAS link: http://123.345.567.789:2112
Listen link: http://123.345.567.789:2112/listen.pls

Also, if your router doesn't support local loopback then machines on the same lan as the DNAS (you) need to use the lan ip of the DNAS to connect/listen.
Machines not on the same lan as the DNAS (the rest of the world) need to use the real, world-visible ip of the DNAS to connect/listen.

Please don't give out urls with 127.0.0.1 as the ip. That is a local loopback ip.
See RFC3330 for more information.

Please don't give out urls with 192.168.x.y or 10.x.y.z or 172.(16-31).x.y as the ip. That is a private lan ip.
See RFC1918 for more information. Scroll down and look for the section titled:
3. Private Address Space

How to find your ip address (Part I).
How to find your ip address (Part II).

Finally, you can get a static name, such as foo.bar.com (not as cool as that, though

) from http://www.no-ip.com or one of the other myriad of Dynamic DNS Services.
Then, your links would be:
DNAS link: http://foo.bar.com:yourDNASport
Listen link: http://foo.bar.com:yourDNASport/listen.pls

Please read some polite advice.

B.
See above.

********************************

Also, fix the "yp.shoutcast.com gave extended error".

Two (or less) easy steps:
1. If you have a firewall, open the necessary port(s).
2. If you have a router, configure it to forward the necessary port(s) to the DNAS machine.

Check out the Sticky post titled:
SHOUTcast: Important Info & Answers to FAQs. READ ME!

Scroll down a bit and look for the section titled:
DNAS Stuff -> Errors -> Fixing [yp_add] yp.shoutcast.com gave extended error (Cannot see your station/computer (IP: xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx:xxxx) from the Internet, disable NAT/firewall/ISP cache (Connection timed out)

Are the necessary ports open in your firewall and are they being forwarded to the DNAS machine?

Are you using Windows XP?
That has an internal firewall.
Either configure it or disable it.

Does your ISP block ports?

Check out http://www.radiotoolbox.com/cantheygetin and see if the reported information there helps.

Try setting the DNASs YPort to 666.
Check out the DNASs sc_serv.ini/conf configuration file for the section (default shown below):

code:
; Yport, port to connect to yp.shoutcast.com on. For people behind caching 

; webproxies, change this to the alternate port (666 is what it might be, 

; check www.shoutcast.com if you have problems). Otherwise, leave this at 80.

; We're actively working on re-opening port 666, but as of release the only

; working port is port 80.

Yport=80

Please read some polite advice.

*******************

Finally, downloading the tools from a site other than www.winamp.com or www.shoutcast.com is probably not a "Good Thing".

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30th December 2003, 11:44	#1
Bends Junior Member Join Date: Dec 2003 Posts: 2	Desperate Hello, first of all, sorry for my bad English, but maybe someone can help me with this problem: I'm not able to set up my own radio station using the following software: - Winamp 2.79 - SHOUTcast DNAS v.1.8.3 - SHOUTcast DSP Plug-in v.1.8.2b - Line Recorder Plug-in I've read a tutorial and followed its instructions, but it doesn't work. Friends of mine have also done exactly so and their station works! I don't understand what I could be doing wrong :-( In the SHOUTcast DNAS configuration I put the following: MaxUser=6 Password=test PortBase=8000 SrcIP=ANY DestIP=ANY Yport=80 Then I start the SHOUTcast Server Monitor. In Winamp I set up the SHOUTcasr plug-in and press 'Connect': Screenshot #1 Screenshot #2 Screenshot #3 Screenshot #4 Screenshot #5 After doing all this I tell a friend to press CTRL + L in Winamp and type 80.32.114.32:8000 and connect, but it fails, cos it says 'connecting' all the time. Does anybody know where the problem is? I'd be very grateful if someone could help me. Thank you.

30th December 2003, 14:50	#2
FesterHead Alumni Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: Maui, Hawaii Posts: 14,108	Any errors in the DNAS log? If the DNAS and Winamp/DSP combo are on the same machine, then use "localhost" or "127.0.0.1" or "the lan ip of the DNAS if you're on a lan" (without the quotes) as the Address in the DSP. If the DNAS and Winamp/DSP combo are on different machines but on the same lan, then use the lan ip of the DNAS as the Address in the DSP. Else, use the real, world-visible ip of the DNAS as the Address in the DSP. **************** Any reason for using the older version of the DNAS? Please consider upgrading to eliminate possible DNAS exploitation.

30th December 2003, 15:39	#3
Bends Junior Member Join Date: Dec 2003 Posts: 2	The DNAS console shows this (when already connected): <12/30/03@17:22:24> [SHOUTcast] DNAS/win32 v1.8.3 (Aug 7 2001) starting up... <12/30/03@17:22:24> [main] loaded config from C:\Archivos de programa\SHOUTcast\sc_serv.ini <12/30/03@17:22:24> [main] initializing (usermax:6 portbase:8000)... <12/30/03@17:22:24> [main] No ban file found (sc_serv.ban) <12/30/03@17:22:24> [main] No rip file found (sc_serv.rip) <12/30/03@17:22:24> [main] opening source socket <12/30/03@17:22:24> [main] source thread starting <12/30/03@17:22:24> [main] opening client socket <12/30/03@17:22:24> [source] listening for connection on port 8001 <12/30/03@17:22:24> [main] Client Stream thread [0] starting <12/30/03@17:22:24> [main] client main thread starting <12/30/03@17:22:29> [source] connected from 80.32.114.32 <12/30/03@17:22:29> [source] icy-name:Bends ; icy-genre:Rock <12/30/03@17:22:29> [source] icy-pub:1 ; icy-br:24 ; icy-url:http://www.shoutcast.com <12/30/03@17:22:29> [source] icy-irc:#tfc.es ; icy-icq:0 ; icy-aim:N/A ... and after a few seconds: <12/30/03@17:22:40> [yp_add] yp.shoutcast.com gave error (nak) <12/30/03@17:22:40> [yp_add] yp.shoutcast.com gave extended error (Cannot see your station/computer (IP: 80.58.35.237:8000) from the Internet, disable Internet Sharing/NAT/firewall/ISP cache (Connection timed out)) I don't think that the two last lines are important, because they are shown on everybody's console that I know and it works with no problems. If the DNAS and Winamp/DSP combo are on the same machine, then use "localhost" or "127.0.0.1" or "the lan ip of the DNAS if you're on a lan" (without the quotes) as the Address in the DSP. The DNAS and Winamp/DSP combo are on the same machine. Now my questions are: [A] - 1) If I use "localhost" as the 'Address' in the DSP, what 'Internet Location' is the listener supposed to enter? - 2) If I use "127.0.0.1" as the 'Address' in the DSP, what 'Internet Location' is the listener supposed to enter? - 3) If I use "the lan ip of the DNAS if I'm on a lan" as the 'Address' in the DSP, what 'Internet Location' is the listener supposed to enter? - 4) If I use "the real, world-visible ip of the DNAS" as the 'Address' in the DSP, what 'Internet Location' is the listener supposed to enter? [B] - 1) How do I know which is my "lan ip of the DNAS if I'm on a lan", where can I look it up in Windows XP? (actually I am on a lan, but my computer is the only who counts in all this, I want the INTERNET users to listen to my radio station, not the lan users) - Which IP do you mean with "the real, world-visible ip of the DNAS", maybe the one that appears in 'ipconfig' (Windows): 80.32.114.32 ? Actually there is no special reason for using the older version of the DNAS, it's only because it is the one I downloaded from a tutorial's website. But I will keep trying with the latest version. Thank you.

30th December 2003, 17:28	#4
FesterHead Alumni Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: Maui, Hawaii Posts: 14,108	A. Here's link bot. DNAS link: http://yourDNASip:yourDNASport Listen link: http://yourDNASip:yourDNASport/listen.pls Replace yourDNASip with the ip of the DNAS (SHOUTcast server) and yourDNASport with the DNAS port (default is 8000) Example: If your DNAS ip is 123.345.567.789 and your DNAS portBase is 2112, then your links would be: DNAS link: http://123.345.567.789:2112 Listen link: http://123.345.567.789:2112/listen.pls Also, if your router doesn't support local loopback then machines on the same lan as the DNAS (you) need to use the lan ip of the DNAS to connect/listen. Machines not on the same lan as the DNAS (the rest of the world) need to use the real, world-visible ip of the DNAS to connect/listen. Please don't give out urls with 127.0.0.1 as the ip. That is a local loopback ip. See RFC3330 for more information. Please don't give out urls with 192.168.x.y or 10.x.y.z or 172.(16-31).x.y as the ip. That is a private lan ip. See RFC1918 for more information. Scroll down and look for the section titled: 3. Private Address Space How to find your ip address (Part I). How to find your ip address (Part II). Finally, you can get a static name, such as foo.bar.com (not as cool as that, though ) from http://www.no-ip.com or one of the other myriad of Dynamic DNS Services. Then, your links would be: DNAS link: http://foo.bar.com:yourDNASport Listen link: http://foo.bar.com:yourDNASport/listen.pls Please read some polite advice. B. See above. ****************************** Also, fix the "yp.shoutcast.com gave extended error". Two (or less) easy steps: 1. If you have a firewall, open the necessary port(s). 2. If you have a router, configure it to forward the necessary port(s) to the DNAS machine. Check out the Sticky post titled: SHOUTcast: Important Info & Answers to FAQs. READ ME! Scroll down a bit and look for the section titled: DNAS Stuff -> Errors -> Fixing [yp_add] yp.shoutcast.com gave extended error (Cannot see your station/computer (IP: xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx:xxxx) from the Internet, disable NAT/firewall/ISP cache (Connection timed out) Are the necessary ports open in your firewall and are they being forwarded to the DNAS machine? Are you using Windows XP? That has an internal firewall. Either configure it or disable it. Does your ISP block ports? Check out http://www.radiotoolbox.com/cantheygetin and see if the reported information there helps. Try setting the DNASs YPort to 666. Check out the DNASs sc_serv.ini/conf configuration file for the section (default shown below): code: ; Yport, port to connect to yp.shoutcast.com on. For people behind caching ; webproxies, change this to the alternate port (666 is what it might be, ; check www.shoutcast.com if you have problems). Otherwise, leave this at 80. ; We're actively working on re-opening port 666, but as of release the only ; working port is port 80. Yport=80 Please read some polite advice. ***************** Finally, downloading the tools from a site other than www.winamp.com or www.shoutcast.com is probably not a "Good Thing".