Why not to use internet explorer

[xzxzzx]

Non-standard Microsoft extentions can bite me. scrollbar-base-color is one of them. Interestingly, it's possible to get Opera 7 to render scrollbars the way you want with an INI file change. See the link.

On another note, I think inline style blocks are considered to be CSS.

[ryan]

Of course it is, it uses css selectors.

Sarge:

The scrollbar stuff is just something MS added (like I said earlier). You could lookup and see if Mozilla\Firefox has some special CSS selector you could use too (They do have some like moz-transparency).

[beanboy89]

Originally posted by EfaustuS9
FireFox 9.1 Recently Released
http://www.mozilla.org/products/firefox/

You mean Firefox 0.9.1?

[sgtfuzzbubble011]

The scrollbar stuff is just something MS added (like I said earlier).

I know that. If I remember correctly, MS was also the first to incorporate support for inline frames... haven't those become standardized now? If so, then why haven't scrollbar stylings become standardized?

And I know that CSS and inline style blocks have the same end result, but their means of execution are a bit different. The code might be the same, but Cascading Style Sheets are not Inline Style Blocks. That's all that I was pointing out before.

[xzxzzx]

Originally posted by sgtfuzzbubble99
I know that. If I remember correctly, MS was also the first to incorporate support for inline frames... haven't those become standardized now? If so, then why haven't scrollbar stylings become standardized?

I don't know why scrollbar stylings havn't become standardized, but they havn't. They arn't even in the CSS3 spec, from what I can tell.

[sgtfuzzbubble011]

I know, and that's what's pissing me off.

[ryan]

http://www.w3.org/Style/Examples/007/scrollbars.html

[EfaustuS9]

US Gov Warns against using IE.

http://www.theinquirer.net/?article=16922

"Use a different web browser

There are a number of significant vulnerabilities in technologies relating to the IE domain/zone security model, the DHTML object model, MIME type determination, and ActiveX. It is possible to reduce exposure to these vulnerabilities by using a different web browser, especially when browsing untrusted sites. Such a decision may, however, reduce the functionality of sites that require IE-specific features such as DHTML, VBScript, and ActiveX. Note that using a different web browser will not remove IE from a Windows system, and other programs may invoke IE, the WebBrowser ActiveX control, or the HTML rendering engine (MSHTML)."

[shoutcast101]

Firebird/Firefox used to be called Phoenix at 0.1

[beanboy89]

Originally posted by shoutcast101
Firebird/Firefox used to be called Phoenix at 0.1

Yes, it was called Phoenix until 0.6, then it was renamed Firebird.

[xzxzzx]

But there were already projects that used the names "Pheonix" and "Firebird". "Firefox" hadn't been taken, though.

[ctn|chrisw]

even if you fix the security settings, these are vulnerbilities and can prolly get passed the security...

[ctn|chrisw]

http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmp...c_cmp/22103407

[Smeggle]

Originally posted by squakMix
I prefer Zone Alarm for a firewall

Thats probably cause it's the best one. well according to 'Shields Up'. It's the only firewall that passes there tests 100% (after you Demob and switch port 5000 of)..

As to i.e. being so flawed? Configuring the thing properly may help...it's not the browser 9 times out of 10 it's the user.

As for it being full of holes? Look at it this way turn around the fact that microsoft have 80% of the comp. market i.e switch mac % to microsoft and vice versa so microsoft on 20%, mac on 80% ...

reckon you'll find an inordinant level of bugs...It's the amount of folk using the system there by generating much more code in different formats and shortcuts that is causing the flaws to be found, mostly by chance than any actual intention.
So what do they do? they perpetuate this nonsence that the program itself is at fault.. total rubbish in my opinion.

Now if you want to slag a program off? microsoft outlook or outlook express (or any mail downloader prog for that matter) is the biggest cause of viri infection to computers. Only real cure to that? do your e-mails manually on-line don't download the crap to you comp in the first place.

Case study over last year - 18months:

I've had at least 15 system reset jobs over the last year. All used outlook or some other mail downloader (including the inbuilt 1 in firefox!). All used Norton except 3-4 who were on McAfee.only about 3 had a firewall and they were configured incorrectly.

I reset there systems and also advised a security change to these progs:
AVG free
Zone Alarm free
Spybot - Search & Destroy (again free)
I also included cwshredder and hijack this.(again free)

most took my advice and I have not had them back yet apart from 2 who reinstalled outlook -- back within weeks of this.

about 6 refused and had me reinstall there system as was...result? all have been back at least once, most changed then, 1-2 haven't though ..I reset 1 of those for the fourth time and last time 2 weeks ago after only doing it the week before!!. I have refused to go back and told the stupid woman not to bother me again..if they can't see after me explaing and fixing there comp 4 times in 12 mnths then tuff! I got better things to be doing with my time. The other one I have to go back to next week - this time they are switching to my recommendation ...

end case study (this is all in the last 12-18mnths)

It's not the software that is wrong as such, it's just the amount of people using it, as opposed to other browsers, the software is bound to throw up problems..put firefox on 80% of the worlds computers and that will sharp see how good it really is.

Gurantee you'll be throwing 'Security Holes' up all over the place....

I use i.e. (and I have most of the others for test purposes) but mainly i.e. I have never yet had a security compromise using said browser..it works does it's job when configured correctly (might need a little tweaking in the registry :whistles: ) so I reckon I'll stick with it as i have absolutely no problems with it at all....

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[gaekwad2]

here we go again...

[ctn|chrisw]

zone alarm has been known to be a lil retarded lately http://www.broadbandreports.com/shownews/46242

I dont bother with a software firewall, I just block the common windows viri ports through my router