Best "Rapper"

[Fickle]

While the room filtered all the smoke out of the windows, somehow the ever-popular topic of music came up.

And then a friend of mine said that Eminem sucked as a rapper.

All of a sudden, everybody had an opinion, even me, and I was having trouble sitting still without the need to just lay down and hope I didn't drown in my own vomit. The question was, if Eminem sucked, who was good?

Nas, Jay-Z, etc etc.

Wait woa. As far as Jay-Z is concerned, the motherfucker came out to a press conference and said he just makes music to sell records and make money. Jay-Z is selling out. And they call him the greatest rapper. Fucking twat. The only thing he ever did well was to make the black album so DJ Mighty Mouse could remix it into the Grey Album, a phenomenon of good shit. And anyone who bucks that statement hasn't heard it and actually listened, or are just talking out of thier ass like I am right....now.

Nas I can dig, and even he has a problem with Jay-Z selling out, most evident in Ether a scathing attack on Jay-Z and his "dick suckin' lips".

And since he started it, lets bring Eminem on the table. I'll be the first to admit that I don' know rap and modern music nearly as well as I should, but I like Eminem. I think his beats are less innovative than say, Nas, and definately not as hard and mean as M.O.P., but he's funny, which is a definate plus. Plus, from what I understand, he's good, but not on his albums. You "have to get the underground shit, that's where it's just (kisses fingers) mmwa!"
There is really no reason to bring up that he's white, but since it will be brought up eventually, let's just bring it up now. Yeah, so he's white, dresses like a black dude and wears do-rags which were originally to cool the heads of cornrow-wearing slaves, definately not modern day whitebreads with bleached blond hair and bags under their eyes. But we won't go there, because we all know deep down in our hearts that race shouldn't matter to anybody, it definately does matter to a lot of people.

So tell me, who's the best rapper? Let me know because now I'm confused. really, really confused. Like a child lost in the woods.

[Cylob]

Vestan Pance - Pop Will Eat Itself



This was rapped in one breath:

Get up! It's time!
Get up and make it snappy!
Dance like a psycho
A sight like nothing on earth
Keep a wide berth
>From anyone you might know
So no first night nerves
All first serves! All aces!
Straight home bases
Sweating like a pig doing the jig
At the gig of the century
Because we'll never be
Told by the old school
Sold the old rules
Tho' we're no fools
Downbeats down to earth
You down with me?
Clowning round the town
Step easy
cooking up new tricks
Looking for a new kick
Found a new sound
Found that it sticks
Heard about the bird
'Bout the plane and
The superman?
Word is: We can outlast anyone
Supercede the superfly guys
Who will concede
They are dying flies
This range of suss
Could be dangerous
Let's test! At best it's religious
At worst a thirst
Bursting for the next rhyme
all times sacred
Even stripped naked
This damned nation
Needing salvation
Reach out!
Teach in musical elation
Shout! Get out of it get within it
Get out of it get within it
All the way mad and bad
All the way hyped
Play it mad DJ! Play it bad DJ
All the way mad and bad
All the way hyped
Are you with me
Are you with it?
A musical nasty
Fast as it has to be
A catastrophe
Heavy duty chaos
'Cos I'm all attitude
The dude to kickstart
The party mood
Cue the truth:
Sleuths are never sober
The proof of youth
So move over rover
Hey! Disco King
You've stopped dancing
Best admit
This hit's an obsession
Lost in lust
Better listen to the lessons
Bright lights big city
Broad minds
Bored pretty easily
Busted just for justice sake
They can't control a soul
Ther's an outbreak
Of outrageous love
It's contageous and
It's here to save us
Some say:
"Now way DJ don't play
The laterst the greatest
The mad and bad way."
If it ain't music use it abuse it
Call it a wall of noise
But don't refuse it
This damned nation
Needing salvation
Reach out!
Teach in musical elation
Shout! Get out of it get within it
Get out of it get within it
Dedicated to all the bores
All the whores
Who forced the laws
You thought
We'd stop dancing and
You were wrong
1-2-3-4-5-6-7
Kiss my ass and go to heaven
Y.O.U. spells you

[Mr Jones]

Just because I can.

[Fickle]

Correction: It's Danger Mouse, not Mighty Mouse.

[LollipopLustKil]

Mighty Mouse, haha.

I'd say in my opinion, Eminem is the best.

[NJK]

Originally posted by spaceplay
dead rappers are the best - they won't release more music

[taylormemer]

Originally posted by spaceplay
dead rappers are the best - they won't release more music

Couldn't agree more. I don't mean to derail the thread or anything, but I really don't appreciate the rap culture.

[Fickle]

there is music out there that isn't Slipknot.

[taylormemer]

Indeed. Like, Bjork, Tool, Tori Amos, Pink Floyd, Silverchair, Rob Zombie, U2, Radiohead, A Perfect Circle, Rush, PJ Harvey, Beethoven, Bach, Mozart, Enya, The Cranberries, Nick Cave, Jethrotull, Neil Young, Bob Dylan, Johnny Winter, Phil Collins..........etc. I listen to them all on a regular basis, and many more. I don't just like SlipKnoT, as many of you think. Don't be too hasty to make unaware judgements.
I don't own any rap at all, and I like it that way.

[ShyShy]

You've come a long way taylor

I like Busta Ryhmes, he's just very different in his style. But, I really couldn't say who's best as I've been out of the current rap loop for awhile now. From past articles, I've learned that Tupac was very lyrical, his writings very poetic, and while Eminem has his leagues of detractors, some of them will even say that his writings are very good.

[MidnightViper88]

I used to like Busta Rhymes...

And you have to give it to Eminem, being a very good white rapper in something that primarily dominated by black people...

Beastie Boys: About the only rap I can really tolerate...

[ElChevelle]

Chuck D and Flavor Flav.
If you have to punish the ears of society, at least bring a message.

[taylormemer]

Originally posted by ShyShy
You've come a long way taylor

[SKMbeat]

- Chuck D
- Method Man
- Snoop Dogg
- Mos Def
and many others

[Cylob]

Roxanne Shante



I'm very fond of 80's digital-watch/hip-hop. Roxanne is the queen.

[Syndphrenik]

This listed consists of lyrical skills (informational, inspirational, innovative, rebelic, and or funny in ALL its categories), as well as production skills:

First and foremost, the best in the game:

Gang Starr
Freddie Foxxx
(old school) Redman
The Pharcyde
MURS
Aesop Rock
Paul Yamz
Del The Funky Homosapien
Alchemist
Gangstarr
Bahamadia
Roots Manuva
El-P and all of Company Flow
Mos Def
Pharohe Monch
Shabaam Sahdeeq
(old school) Busta Rhymes
Grand Puba
Sadat X
Common
Planet Asia
Insane Clown Posse
DJ Jazzy Jeff
Dr. Dre (old school production)
Prince Paul
Dan The Automator
Handsome Boy Modeling School (the collaboration of Paul and Automator)
Pete Rock & CL Smooth
The Roots
X-Ecutioners
Digital Underground
BOSS THE MC (a rapper of Japan)
Doug E. Fresh
Kool Keith
DJ Krush
Ludacris
Pep Love
The Grouch
Zion-I

If I missed anyone else, it's probably because they suck. This list isn't about sucking up to the pioneers, although rap music has been around predated for hundreds of years. It's about who's keeping it alive now.

That's my list. Accept it, respect it, or reject it.

taylormemer, the same can be said with your choice of music, as well with other styles. All I can suggest to you is open up your mind to find & filter the phat from the wack. Just a suggestion.

[xzxzzx]

Originally posted by Cylob
Vestan Pance - Pop Will Eat Itself

[Image]

This was rapped in one breath:

...

Seems unlikely...


[edit]Oh, and I like Eminem better than the other rappers I've heard. I don't like most rap, by the way.[/edit]

[Jfishjr]

vanilla ice is, was, and will continue to be the best "rapper" in the universe.

He had mad street cred yo. Word to yo mutha.

[papadoc]

Bob Dylan:

Johnny's in the basement
Mixing up the medicine
I'm on the pavement
Thinking about the government
The man in the trench coat
Badge out, laid off
Says he's got a bad cough
Wants to get it paid off
Look out kid
It's somethin' you did
God knows when
But you're doin' it again
You better duck down the alley way
Lookin' for a new friend
The man in the coon-skin cap
In the big pen
Wants eleven dollar bills
You only got ten

Maggie comes fleet foot
Face full of black soot
Talkin' that the heat put
Plants in the bed but
The phone's tapped anyway
Maggie says that many say
They must bust in early May
Orders from the D. A.
Look out kid
Don't matter what you did
Walk on your tip toes
Don't try "No Doz"
Better stay away from those
That carry around a fire hose
Keep a clean nose
Watch the plain clothes
You don't need a weather man
To know which way the wind blows

Get sick, get well
Hang around a ink well
Ring bell, hard to tell
If anything is goin' to sell
Try hard, get barred
Get back, write braille
Get jailed, jump bail
Join the army, if you fail
Look out kid
You're gonna get hit
But users, cheaters
Six-time losers
Hang around the theaters
Girl by the whirlpool
Lookin' for a new fool
Don't follow leaders
Watch the parkin' meters

Ah get born, keep warm
Short pants, romance, learn to dance
Get dressed, get blessed
Try to be a success
Please her, please him, buy gifts
Don't steal, don't lift
Twenty years of schoolin'
And they put you on the day shift
Look out kid
They keep it all hid
Better jump down a manhole
Light yourself a candle
Don't wear sandals
Try to avoid the scandals
Don't wanna be a bum
You better chew gum
The pump don't work
'Cause the vandals took the handles

[GqSkrub]

wtf?! how can you have a best rapper thread and not have tupac anywhere?

he is a true rapper. He would destroy eminem with his pinky. Tell eminem to die and make 11 albums.


notorious was also amazing. No 300lb man with a lazy eye could get so many chicks. that speaks volumes for his ability to rhyme.


if you want to start naming "pop" rap artists... than jay-z is amazing. his first album was recorded in half an hour. he just sat down and started rapping to the beats they played him. that's skill.

want funny? ludacris. snoop dogg.

right now i'm listening to kanye wests' never let me down. check it out. it's good.

[J4K3]

Best rappers, id have to say 2pac, Jay z or eminem
but some of the newer rappers like dizzie raskal, proof and tony yayo are great with words

[Coman]

i cant believe only one person said kanye west so far.

kanye west
twista
outkast

doesnt jay-z have songs written for him and doesnt write his own raps?

[GqSkrub]

no. he writes his own stuff. but that thing on selling records is true. so he didn't go back to revise his raps... uhh... rap is not founded on those who can sit down and write a rap, those who pop rhymes off the top of their head are the ones that are good. and he's good.

[bits]

Terror Squade, D-12, MOBB DEEP, KELIS, USHERR, THE ROOTS...

["Spunx"]

KRS-ONE slow trax and fast trax ass cracks get waxed to the max....he keeps tippin the scale payin tuition not bail drinkin water not ale