What does the midi input plugin do

bobh_83709 · 7th December 2000, 00:33

I am reasonably technically and familiar with Winamp plugins, but I cannot determine what the midi input plugin does nor can any find any decent documentation on it. Can anyone point me in the right direction?

DJ Egg · 7th December 2000, 02:35

It enables Winamp to automatically play *.MID files.

bobh_83709 · 7th December 2000, 05:50

Hmm, that is rather obvious in hindsite. OK, I have a DSP module that doesn't seem to work when I play a midi file. Is midi one of format that causes winamp to shutoff plugins?

6502 · 8th December 2000, 22:33

MIDI is not actually and audio format as such. The sound is generated directly by your soundcard's synth and the MIDI format contains instructions to the synth and no audio information (that's why they're so small). Therfore audio processing cannot be done on them, i.e. plugins can't work. Sorry.

6502.

Winsane · 8th December 2000, 23:22

You can get DSP plug-ins to work with MIDI if you use PP's DirectMusic MIDI plug-in, and in its configuration select "Microsoft Synthesizer" under "device" and enable "play through Winamp's output system". (But according to the help file: "Do not use any output filters that change playback time (pitch/tempo control, crossfaders, etc), except for the case when you use WAV writer output plug-in.")
Also note that this plug-in should come with Winamp 2.71, so if you've gotten that by the time you read this, you don't need to get it from the page I linked to above.

6502 · 9th December 2000, 13:16

I tried the link and it appears to be bad. I guess we will just have to wait :-)

Winsane · 9th December 2000, 20:42

Try it again once or twice. Cjb.net seems to randomly screw up every once in a while, and a click of the Refresh button usually gets it working.

6502 · 9th December 2000, 22:08

Sorry, the link to the page is not bad but the download link on that page is. It's a 404 error every time I've tried.

Winsane · 9th December 2000, 22:10

Hm, that's weird. It works for me.

peter · 10th December 2000, 00:03

... and for me. One of my friends has strange problems with most of files on my website. Try using this URL: http://members.fortunecity.com/pp666/midi.htm.
Download everything using _normal_ IE download function (no external download managers, etc).
BTW, could anyone point me a web space provider that doesn't suck ? (don't mention geocities and tripod)

6502 · 10th December 2000, 19:01

That's got it. Getright seemed to not like it. I got it now though. Thanks guys.

peter · 10th December 2000, 19:58

If you use external download manager, you have to set referrer (if possible) to http://members.fortunecity.com/pp666/
It worked fine with URL=http://www.netvampire.com]Net Vampire[/URL]. And DO NOT try to dload via cjb.net.

bobh_83709 · 11th December 2000, 19:09

Hmm, now I am even more confused.

It is true midi is not an actual input format, but it is also true that once midi is decoded by one of a number of software synthesisers, the result is audio. I can rather easily take the results of a midi playback with non winamp tools and record it to wav format or whatever, then read it in with winamp, use DSP modules to adjust, etc.

So I thought, in my ignorance, that these steps I do by hand could somehow be combined into a single input plug in.

If I understand the responses the existing solutions are tied to a particular midi synthesiser as opposed to any midi synthesiser. Is this correct?

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7th December 2000, 00:33	#1
bobh_83709 Junior Member Join Date: Oct 2000 Posts: 9	I am reasonably technically and familiar with Winamp plugins, but I cannot determine what the midi input plugin does nor can any find any decent documentation on it. Can anyone point me in the right direction?

7th December 2000, 02:35	#2
DJ Egg Techorator Winamp & Shoutcast Team Join Date: Jun 2000 Posts: 35,894	It enables Winamp to automatically play *.MID files.

7th December 2000, 05:50	#3
bobh_83709 Junior Member Join Date: Oct 2000 Posts: 9	Hmm, that is rather obvious in hindsite. OK, I have a DSP module that doesn't seem to work when I play a midi file. Is midi one of format that causes winamp to shutoff plugins?

8th December 2000, 22:33	#4
6502 Junior Member Join Date: Dec 2000 Posts: 5	MIDI is not actually and audio format as such. The sound is generated directly by your soundcard's synth and the MIDI format contains instructions to the synth and no audio information (that's why they're so small). Therfore audio processing cannot be done on them, i.e. plugins can't work. Sorry. 6502.

8th December 2000, 23:22	#5
Winsane Moderator Alumni Join Date: Jun 2000 Location: U.S. (eastern time zone) Posts: 2,598	You can get DSP plug-ins to work with MIDI if you use PP's DirectMusic MIDI plug-in, and in its configuration select "Microsoft Synthesizer" under "device" and enable "play through Winamp's output system". (But according to the help file: "Do not use any output filters that change playback time (pitch/tempo control, crossfaders, etc), except for the case when you use WAV writer output plug-in.") Also note that this plug-in should come with Winamp 2.71, so if you've gotten that by the time you read this, you don't need to get it from the page I linked to above.

9th December 2000, 13:16	#6
6502 Junior Member Join Date: Dec 2000 Posts: 5	I tried the link and it appears to be bad. I guess we will just have to wait :-)

9th December 2000, 20:42	#7
Winsane Moderator Alumni Join Date: Jun 2000 Location: U.S. (eastern time zone) Posts: 2,598	Try it again once or twice. Cjb.net seems to randomly screw up every once in a while, and a click of the Refresh button usually gets it working.

9th December 2000, 22:08	#8
6502 Junior Member Join Date: Dec 2000 Posts: 5	Sorry, the link to the page is not bad but the download link on that page is. It's a 404 error every time I've tried.

9th December 2000, 22:10	#9
Winsane Moderator Alumni Join Date: Jun 2000 Location: U.S. (eastern time zone) Posts: 2,598	Hm, that's weird. It works for me.

10th December 2000, 00:03	#10
peter ist death Join Date: May 2000 Posts: 3,704	... and for me. One of my friends has strange problems with most of files on my website. Try using this URL: http://members.fortunecity.com/pp666/midi.htm. Download everything using _normal_ IE download function (no external download managers, etc). BTW, could anyone point me a web space provider that doesn't suck ? (don't mention geocities and tripod)

10th December 2000, 19:01	#11
6502 Junior Member Join Date: Dec 2000 Posts: 5	That's got it. Getright seemed to not like it. I got it now though. Thanks guys.

10th December 2000, 19:58	#12
peter ist death Join Date: May 2000 Posts: 3,704	If you use external download manager, you have to set referrer (if possible) to http://members.fortunecity.com/pp666/ It worked fine with URL=http://www.netvampire.com]Net Vampire[/URL]. And DO NOT try to dload via cjb.net.

11th December 2000, 19:09	#13
bobh_83709 Junior Member Join Date: Oct 2000 Posts: 9	Hmm, now I am even more confused. It is true midi is not an actual input format, but it is also true that once midi is decoded by one of a number of software synthesisers, the result is audio. I can rather easily take the results of a midi playback with non winamp tools and record it to wav format or whatever, then read it in with winamp, use DSP modules to adjust, etc. So I thought, in my ignorance, that these steps I do by hand could somehow be combined into a single input plug in. If I understand the responses the existing solutions are tied to a particular midi synthesiser as opposed to any midi synthesiser. Is this correct?