Gapless mp3: in_mp3 vs in_mpg123

jimboe · 23rd October 2004, 09:38

I used to use mp3splice w/winamp 2.9 to absolute perfection on win98 a few yrs ago, but when I tried to set it up similarly on an XP box, playback wouldn't work to perfection (there was (very) small click between mp3 tracks). Never could figure out why it wasn't perfect on XP.

Well, haven't really used winamp for like a year on the XP box. I recently reinstalled XP and decided to try winamp 5.05 (mods here claimed it was actually better in CPU usage etc than the older 2.9, and even based upon that "core", so I tried it).

Config'd "gapless" as mod "Egg" instructed in one of the threads. It worked pretty damned good; but not to perfection the way mp3splice does on the 98 box with winamp2.9.

Found another thread where a user suggested using mpg123 and mp3splice. That worked beatufully, exactly as it should, but, no ID3 tags when I use Alt-3, only File info (i.e. properties).

Then, I figured I'd try mp3splice with the default in_mp3.dll, just to see if things maybe had changed since I last tried it on XP (when it had produced clicks between tracks).

Well it works perfectly, so I guess there have been changes in in_mp3.dll which make it work properly with mp3splice now.

SO- what are the differences between in_mp3.dll and in_mpg123.dll? playback quality, features, cpu/ram usage, bugginess, etc.?

Is there any reason to use one over the other?

Thanks

gaekwad2 · 23rd October 2004, 09:53

in_mpg123

Gapless with Lame mp3s
Reads APE tags
Replaygain support
24bit output or dithered & noiseshaped 16bit (theoretically producing slightly higher quality)

in_mp3

Comes with Winamp
Can write id3 tags, mpg123 needs mp3infp to do that

CPU wise I haven't noticed any difference.

jimboe · 23rd October 2004, 11:25

Exceellent info!

Quote:

Originally posted by gaekwad2
in_mpg123
Gapless with Lame mp3s

Reads APE tags

Replaygain support

24bit output or dithered & noiseshaped 16bit (theoretically producing slightly higher quality)

in_mp3
Comes with Winamp

Can write id3 tags, mpg123 needs mp3infp to do that

CPU wise I haven't noticed any difference.

about mpg_123, "Gapless with Lame", do you mean "natively", wihout mp3splice? because the mp3's I encoded with lame play back gapless with mp3splice and either in_mpg123 or in_mp3.

Is there an link that I can read that describes what the features of in_mpg123's do? such as the Replaygain feature you mention?

Is there a link to mp3info as well?

gaekwad2 · 23rd October 2004, 11:43

mpg_123 reads Lame's padding info so it can produce gapless playback without output plugin tricks.

Replaygain uses tags to store the average and peak volume for each track and album.

mp3infp (no typo

) replaces the windows file properties display for .mp3 and .ogg files.

Nunzio390 · 23rd October 2004, 11:43

Just a little info for you on Replay Gain here...

Replay Gain - A Proposed Standard
Replay Gain DSP plugin for Winamp 2.x and 5.x

[EDIT]
DOH!!

gaekwad hit his reply button exactly one millisecond before I hit my reply button!

DJ Egg · 23rd October 2004, 16:02

Note, another difference between in_mp3 and in_mpg123...
in_mp3 in 5.05 also provides support for aac and aacPlus formats.
To keep this support you need to keep in_mp3 enabled, but remove MP3 from the extension list in in_mp3 config.
in_mp3 also provides support for mp3 & aac audio in NSV video streams (Internet TV / winamp.com Videos).
Alternatively, you can totally disable in_mp3 and install the 3rd-party in_mp4 plugin from audiocoding.com or rarewares.org . . . however, there is no support here for either in_mpg123 or 3rd-party in_mp4 (if anything should go wrong or if certain default winamp features no longer work properly).

23rd October 2004, 09:38	#1
jimboe Junior Member Join Date: Oct 2004 Posts: 4	Gapless mp3: in_mp3 vs in_mpg123 I used to use mp3splice w/winamp 2.9 to absolute perfection on win98 a few yrs ago, but when I tried to set it up similarly on an XP box, playback wouldn't work to perfection (there was (very) small click between mp3 tracks). Never could figure out why it wasn't perfect on XP. Well, haven't really used winamp for like a year on the XP box. I recently reinstalled XP and decided to try winamp 5.05 (mods here claimed it was actually better in CPU usage etc than the older 2.9, and even based upon that "core", so I tried it). Config'd "gapless" as mod "Egg" instructed in one of the threads. It worked pretty damned good; but not to perfection the way mp3splice does on the 98 box with winamp2.9. Found another thread where a user suggested using mpg123 and mp3splice. That worked beatufully, exactly as it should, but, no ID3 tags when I use Alt-3, only File info (i.e. properties). Then, I figured I'd try mp3splice with the default in_mp3.dll, just to see if things maybe had changed since I last tried it on XP (when it had produced clicks between tracks). Well it works perfectly, so I guess there have been changes in in_mp3.dll which make it work properly with mp3splice now. SO- what are the differences between in_mp3.dll and in_mpg123.dll? playback quality, features, cpu/ram usage, bugginess, etc.? Is there any reason to use one over the other? Thanks

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DJ Egg Techorator Winamp & Shoutcast Team Join Date: Jun 2000 Posts: 35,894	Note, another difference between in_mp3 and in_mpg123... in_mp3 in 5.05 also provides support for aac and aacPlus formats. To keep this support you need to keep in_mp3 enabled, but remove MP3 from the extension list in in_mp3 config. in_mp3 also provides support for mp3 & aac audio in NSV video streams (Internet TV / winamp.com Videos). Alternatively, you can totally disable in_mp3 and install the 3rd-party in_mp4 plugin from audiocoding.com or rarewares.org . . . however, there is no support here for either in_mpg123 or 3rd-party in_mp4 (if anything should go wrong or if certain default winamp features no longer work properly). Playlist -\|- Twitter

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23rd October 2004, 09:53	#2
gaekwad2 Foorum King Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: bar2000 Posts: 11,457	in_mpg123 Gapless with Lame mp3s Reads APE tags Replaygain support 24bit output or dithered & noiseshaped 16bit (theoretically producing slightly higher quality) in_mp3 Comes with Winamp Can write id3 tags, mpg123 needs mp3infp to do that CPU wise I haven't noticed any difference.