America Or The UK? Best Rock Bands........

[Volospion]

Which country has produced the best rock groups over the last forty years or so and why? Should be a pretty provocative little thread.......good job I didn't include Europe. Not that they've ever been responsible for much in the way of rock n' roll.....

[zootm]

They both have some kickass bands. As do other countries.

I wouldn't say it's anything about the actual countries, to be honest. And both countries have really shitty rock bands coming out of them too - the US has Nickelback, POD... UK has The Strokes... just for a start...

[Volospion]

Originally posted by zootm
They both have some kickass bands. As do other countries.

I wouldn't say it's anything about the actual countries, to be honest. And both countries have really shitty rock bands coming out of them too - the US has Nickelback, POD... UK has The Strokes... just for a start...

The Strokes come from the U.K.? All those years I thought they came from the USA.......

[Raz]

UK

Beatles
Stones
Floyd
Zeppelin
The Who
Clash
The Jam
Jethro Tull
Sabbath
Cure
Stone Roses
Joy Division
New Order
Smiths
Sex Pistols
The Verve
Bowie

Contest over.

[MidnightViper88]

I don't really listen to very many bands from the UK, but if you must make mention to them, it's a shame if you don't mention Judas Priest...

[Volospion]

Originally posted by MidnightViper88
I don't really listen to very many bands from the UK, but if you must make mention to them, it's a shame if you don't mention Judas Priest...

The Priest? Classic band! Glen Tipton is a much underated guitarist....have you caught them reunited on the Ozzfest?

[Semantics]

Oasis

.....nuff said

[m0e]

Rush

Oh yeah, they're from Canada.

[Twilightseer]

Apart from the Smashing Pumpkins, there are very few US rock bands that I like. On the other hand, I like a lot of UK bands : The Smiths, New Order, The Cure, Mogwai, Placebo, Muse...

Though one of most hated bands (Beatles) was from the UK

[NJK]

Golden Earring ( usa nr 1 hit song with Radar Love)
2 unlimited ( usa nr 1 hit in the dance chart)
clan of xymox ( darkwave band)
George Baker Selection ( everybody knows "una paloma blanca" and "little green bag")

all dutch artist.and world famous.
so it's not all either UK or USA.
oh almost forgot the bird dance by the electronica's
and the smurf song

[zootm]

Originally posted by Volospion
The Strokes come from the U.K.? All those years I thought they came from the USA.......

*checks*

Oh yeah!

We win, then!

[Raz]

No-ones denying the quality of musicians from the usa, i mean, hendrix. Point made. The velvet underground, television, guns n roses, metallica, the doors. There have just been more in the UK.

[MegaRock]

Hendrix
The Doors
Pink Floyd
Metallica
Megadeth
KISS
Thin Lizzy
Boston
ELO
Guns & Roses
Pearl Jam
Soundgarden
Nirvana
Kansas
Twisted Sister
Grand Funk Railroad
Triumph
Quiet Riot

and of course

Elvis.

[Egekrusher]

Neither. Switzerland, Norway and Iceland produce some of the best metal bands around today.

[MegaRock]

I sure don't know many from there. You're European, aren't you?

[NJK]

neither america nor Uk

Canada is the word


Neil Young !!!!!! and Rush !!!!

[MegaRock]

I figured he was European since we rarely hear their bands and they rarely hear ours. Damn record companies.

[kunzi_n]

Originally posted by Twilightseer

Though one of most hated bands (Beatles) was from the UK

shit yeah. The beatles can be summed up with one word...timing. There ENTIRE output can be broken down into the same chord progressions.

Besides the best hard rock band comes from puerto rico...PUYA!

[Raz]

Peter Rabbit would be wise to not judge Mr. McGregor's garden, kunzi.

[kunzi_n]

Well Raz anyone that likes the Doors doesn't get much of my attention but I thought I would save your fingers for the future...that is the only reason I replied.

[ryan]

Originally posted by MegaRock
...
Nirvana
...

To be honest.. Nirvana wasn't that great of a band. Sure, I like them. But they aren't one of the best bands out of the US.

Kurt Cobain couldn't sing or play guitar all that great. The only real thing they did was 'define' grunge which is just another name for 'punk'.

In my opinion atleast.

[MegaRock]

True in a way but each one I listed pretty much defined the tops in their genre. No one can really dispute the popularity of any of the bands listed since each one was not only popular then but remain so. There are still pilgramages to Paris to find Morrisons grave, people still listen to Dark Side of the Moon, Metallica is still filling arenas and fans of Nirvana and Alice in Chains still have candlelight vigils every year on the day of their members deaths.

There are alot of bands who have been popular, but I picked the ones I could best think of that five, ten, twenty years or more and they are just as well known as they were when they first started.

[kunzi_n]

One question for anybody that thinks they know. Do the members of a band define where they are from or just where the band originated?

[Fickle]

Originally posted by kunzi_n
shit yeah. The beatles can be summed up with one word...timing. There ENTIRE output can be broken down into the same chord progressions.

Besides the best hard rock band comes from puerto rico...PUYA!

Simple, yes, but good? Fucking-a. Anyone who hasn't listened to enough Beatles Doesn't like them. You have to like something the Beatles made. If you don't than you haven't listened to all of thier stuff and you're being narrow minded. They were very ecclectic in style so it's like saying you hate Ween because you hate "Voodoo Lady". Not all of thier shit sounds the same so you can't blanket them with such a broad statement.

[kunzi_n]

I never said I didn't like something of theirs, Rocky racoon is kick ass. What I did say has to do with the way they revoice all of the same chord progressions. Do you study music? Most people who have would agree with me, although I have met some fans that understand the writing of music very well. And yes I have heard enough beatles to make that judgement, I stand by what I said.

Edit: And I never said all of there shit sounds the same. My ear has been trained to listen to the foundation and structure of music so I guess you could say I've been ruined for most popular music.

[Fickle]

Originally posted by kunzi_n
I never said I didn't like something of theirs, Rocky racoon is kick ass. What I did say has to do with the way they revoice all of the same chord progressions. Do you study music? Most people who have would agree with me, although I have met some fans that understand the writing of music very well. And yes I have heard enough beatles to make that judgement, I stand by what I said.

Edit: And I never said all of there shit sounds the same. My ear has been trained to listen to the foundation and structure of music so I guess you could say I've been ruined for most popular music.

I don't doubt you know music better than I do, but to listen to just the chords and refuse to listen to a song as a whole is a really bad way to approach music. There are so many players out there who say "Man that shit is cake! Anybody can do that song!" But it's the fact that it is a good song as a whole, not just musically.

And modern pop music is garbage.

[The Rock Radio]

Pink Floyd American? Don't think so

[ShyShy]

Um... why does it have to be a contest? If it weren't for the influences from either side of the pond, rock music wouldn't be the same.

If it weren't for some of the British bands Raz posted, I wouldn't have listened to some of the Americans. Vice versa.

Besides, Oasis sucks.

[Kinetik*]

The United Kingdom's bands paved the way for current U.S. Rock. Although I do think that the Ramones (From the Velvet Underground in the U.S.) set a milestone. They're really the only one American band that comes to mind when I think 'rock revolution'.

[ShyShy]

Originally posted by Kinetik*
The United Kingdom's bands paved the way for current U.S. Rock.

I'll have to agree with you on that one.

[Dubguy]

Originally posted by Raz
No-ones denying the quality of musicians from the usa, i mean, hendrix. Point made. The velvet underground, television, guns n roses, metallica, the doors. There have just been more in the UK.

Thin Lizzy is Irish from Dublin.Some UK's always claim our bands as theirs.

[taylormemer]

What do you commoly see when US bands refer to their influences?

The Who
Black Sabbath
Led Zepelin
Pink Floyd
Deep Purple
Sex Pistols
And many more...

All these bands a from the UK. Now while there are some US bands who have created their own genres for themselves I personally think that the rock music of today was heavily founded and influenced by the early UK bands.
Even bands like Rush, Queen and Kiss, Metallica were influencial, but when you read what their influences are it comes back down to those I listed, plus many more UK bands.

It's a chain reaction really. Look at a band like Metallica (one of the biggest bands of the modern era), their influences were bands like Black Sabbath, and look at the bands that where influenced by Metallica; the modern metal and rock bands, SlipKnoT, TOOL, etc.
So as you can see, the way in which a band evolves is the way it presents it's influences through it's own music. But I think the prime strand in that evolutionary sequence was the early UK rock bands.

[deeder7001]

who really cares if the band is from the UK or America? as long as the band is good i don't care where it's from. i think i listen to more of the stuff from America though.

[taylormemer]

I do agree with deeder.
I think the main question in all of this is however the influence that UK had of the time, not wheather they are the best or not.

[kunzi_n]

Originally posted by deeder7001
who really cares if the band is from the UK or America? as long as the band is good i don't care where it's from...

Amen. I agree totaly.

And all this talk about the UK influencing the rock of today is subjective. If you look at their influences you would get blues and jazz from the states and the pioneer of this genre (even if I don't care for much of his stuff) is indisputably Elvis. If you keep going back all of the chord structures and forms that we hear today were started by Bach, Mozart and Beethoven. So depending on what time you are looking at the Germans influenced current music then the Americans and then the UK so they all win the 'contest' in my opinion.


And fickle I agree it is a bad way to listen to popular music but once you learn you can't unlearn.

[Wolfgang]

Originally posted by MegaRock
Hendrix
The Doors
Pink Floyd
Metallica
Megadeth
KISS
Thin Lizzy
Boston
ELO
Guns & Roses
Pearl Jam
Soundgarden
Nirvana
Kansas
Twisted Sister
Grand Funk Railroad
Triumph
Quiet Riot

and of course

Elvis.

Sacrilege! Pink Floyd are from the UK!

[Cylob]

Originally posted by Dubguy
Some UK's always claim our bands as theirs.

How very true......



It's the same with Scottish bands though.....



Point aside, British bands have generally been more experimental, so more genres originated here. That's not to say we have the best bands, there's not much to pick and choose.

At the minute, British music's dead.

[kunzi_n]

Originally posted by Cylob
...
At the minute, British music's dead.

So is american music for the most part. Some bands get lucky but they are all a bunch of mickey mouse club bubble gummers.

[Wolfgang]

It's what'll sell than what's good. Ever seen an ugly popstar?

[kunzi_n]

It's a cryin' shame seeing as how it is the MUSIC industry not the modeling industry but it is so hard to tell these days.

Yes I have seen an ugly popstar but not lately, mick jager, lead singers for journey, ac/dc and nasty ass gene simmons.