what bit rate do U rip at?

[MashadaR]

I have been reading several message boards. There are so many arguments as far as which bit rate is the best for cd quality music on your pc. For awhile I was doing mp3 192. After reading several comments, I'm becoming a little convinced that i should be looking into aac 192 OR apple lossless.

Comments?

What do U do?

[ElChevelle]

An even more important question (because it's asked by me) is WTF happened to CDEX and why can't I download it anywhere?

[gaekwad2]

Archive:
1) FLAC or Wavpack (lossless, ~800kbps)

2) Transparent lossy:
Musepack -q 5 (~180kbps)

3) Smaller files, still good enough:
Vorbis -q 4.5 (~144kbps)

4) For video:
Vorbis -q 2 (~96kbps)

5) Transparent mp3:
--alt-preset standard (~200kbps)

Mostly 2), 3) and 4)

Originally posted by ElChevelle
An even more important question (because it's asked by me) is WTF happened to CDEX and why can't I download it anywhere?

This doesn't work?

[shakey_snake]

http://cdexos.sourceforge.net/
everything seems in order, chev.

[zootm]

Vorbis Q5, nearly always. LAME alt-preset-standard sometimes because my shitty portable don't do Vorbis.

[k_rock923]

I don't know. What bitrate does T or V rip at?

[whiteflip]

Vorbis 1.0 -q 4 Space/Quality suited me best at the time. When I get a new computer (when hell freezes over) I'll probably re-rip at the new vorbis official release at -q 6. and set something up for transcoding to mp3 128ish vbr on the fly.

Ripped with CDex of course.

[gaekwad2]

Use MAREO (link in my sig), then you can encode to as many formats as you want in one go.

[mikm]

FLAC (lossless not positive about the bitrate)

[henry3k56]

128kbps using AAC.

[deeder7001]

i use the alt-preset-standard to rip cds. i used to rip at 128, then i got better speakers. then it was 160, then again i got better speakers. then i started using alt-preset-standard between 192 and 320, i started hearing some clipping in the 160 mp3s.

[drewbar]

Lame -V2 (It's APS).
Or
Vorbis -q6

Tried a few other formats too.
Musepack is pretty much dead and never will do anything.
MP4/AAC is overrated for me. Too much incompatability in that package.

[squakMix]

LAME.


Forgot what bitrate that encodes at...

[grumpyBB]

mp3 at 320 or OGG at anywhere between 8 and 10, depends on the cd.

[Starbucks]

I would hate to rip and re-rip my entire collection just because I wanted to use a better or more efficient codec. That's why I just rip at 320kbps mp3.

[protegechris]

I just rip at 192kbps mp3. When I get my 200gb hard drive, I'll be glad to waste space, sounds great already

[mysterious_w]

I've always ripped at 128kbps CBR mp3. I've got generic speakers so the sound quality doesn't matter, and I'd hate a 6mb file for each song.

And for my mp3 player I encode at 64kbps, so I can get as many tracks as I can on it.

[whiteflip]

Originally posted by Starbucks
I would hate to rip and re-rip my entire collection just because I wanted to use a better or more efficient codec. That's why I just rip at 320kbps mp3.

I have a small collection. Otherwise I would have used Monkey Audio to begin with and probably would have eventually moved it over to FLAC and used that to transcode to CD's and Mp3 CD's for my car and OGG's or AAC's for the audio player I would have probably boughten by now. If I was an audiophile.

It does suck though.

[Twilightseer]

Lame APS

[c2R]

Originally posted by shakey_snake
http://cdexos.sourceforge.net/
everything seems in order, chev.

yees (o:

I shall have to update my sig link now cdex.n3.net appears dead....

[apollos]

256kbps LAME MP3 Joint Stereo

[nybergh]

apollos, use --alt-preset stnadard instead.

I use --alt-preset standard, so does everybody I've told about it. It's just that good.

I'd use vorbis if i had one of those wonderful iriver hd players.

[SSJ4 Gogitta]

q7 vorbis for me.

[apollos]

Originally posted by nybergh
apollos, use --alt-preset stnadard instead.

I use --alt-preset standard, so does everybody I've told about it. It's just that good.

what now? *noob*

[Bilbo Baggins]

I just use the default settings on CDEX if I have to rip something. I am not that bothered about how it sounds.

[nybergh]

Originally posted by apollos
what now? *noob*

BTW this one goes out for bilbo too. Serioulsy, you can't listen to 128 kbps mp3 (i think 128 is the default value of cdex).

See this post
http://forums.winamp.com/showthread....00#post1331000

--alt-preset standard is a specially tuned VBR preset (means that the bitrate will change for every frame to match the current complexity of the sound signal).

It's designed to provide "transparent" quality for most people and it's centainly smarter to use that 256 kbps CBR.
Be sure to get a new version of LAME, right now 3.96.1 is the latest stable version (don't use betas and alphas)

]download CDex here

Extract the lame_enc.dll-file from the LAME archive when you've downloaded it and replace the older version of the same file in CDex:es folder (C:\program files\cdex_150).

[Bilbo Baggins]

Actually I can listen to 128kpbs MP3s quite happily.

[nybergh]

If you've got very limited HD space you have a reason there otherwise you're just very lazy if you don't check out --alt-preset standard.

You're not happy with 128 kbps mp3, just believe me. Try to listen to that with even quite good speakers and you will hear it's 128 k unless you're deaf

[ElChevelle]

Originally posted by c2R
yees (o:

I shall have to update my sig link now cdex.n3.net appears dead....

Quite dead.
We (mods) need to update the TSGH as well.

[J_Darnley]

I now encode all my music with FLAC set at the best compression level which produces average bitrates from 452 to 1002 kbps. I don't have a problem with hard disk space with my nice 250 GB HDD .

[Rocker]

i buy cds

[grumpyBB]

Originally posted by J_Darnley
I don't have a problem with hard disk space with my nice 250 GB HDD .

I'd need several 250gig HD's if I wanted to rip my entire cd collecton. Ever since I bought my first cd back in 1984 I've bought over 2600 cd's. I've got 370 gigs of HD space now and I have less than 5 gigs free and less than 15 of that is from my cd collection.

[Psythik]

192Kbit/s ABR Joint Stereo. Seems to take up less space on average than CBR and I like how the biterate is bumped up a bit for those parts of the song needing the few extra Ks for quality.

[apollos]

Originally posted by nybergh
BTW this one goes out for bilbo too. Serioulsy, you can't listen to 128 kbps mp3 (i think 128 is the default value of cdex).

See this post
http://forums.winamp.com/showthread....00#post1331000

--alt-preset standard is a specially tuned VBR preset (means that the bitrate will change for every frame to match the current complexity of the sound signal).

It's designed to provide "transparent" quality for most people and it's centainly smarter to use that 256 kbps CBR.
Be sure to get a new version of LAME, right now 3.96.1 is the latest stable version (don't use betas and alphas)

]download CDex here

Extract the lame_enc.dll-file from the LAME archive when you've downloaded it and replace the older version of the same file in CDex:es folder (C:\program files\cdex_150).

thanks for the codec link, but there's something I really don't like about VBR, dunno what :|

[Omega X]

Musepack(MPC) 'standard' setting. Nuff said.

[MaTTFURY]

what is ogg why is it used?

[gaekwad2]

Wikipedia is your friend.

[EfaustuS9]

for car multialbum compilations:

Lame 320Kbps mp3 via CDEX or allofmp3

For Mp3 player (Rio Chiba 256MB):

Lame Standard preset VBR mp3 via CDEX or allofmp3

[whiteflip]

Originally posted by MaTTFURY
what is ogg why is it used?

I'm going to assume those are two seperate questions

Ogg Vorbis is a completely open, patent-free, professional audio encoding and streaming technology with all the benefits of Open Source.

- http://www.vorbis.com/

Its used because it has higher quality at lower file sizes although it takes relatively longer to encode (which you do once per CD) and has a higher CPU useage (which is why its good for comps and not portables). Its natively VBR so you don't pick 320kbps like most people do with mp3 and waste space. Unless you pick like q10 and use about 500kbps.

Its also used because its free from patents and junk and yes Winamp plays it just fine.

[ryan]

I use the one that I encode all of my music to.